Topic: Resolved: BayAreaCoins thinks I owe him money (Read 373 times)
Thanks. I'll mark this as resolved.
Good news for you, looks like you get to keep your 10 BTC today.
Dooglus isn't sold that I "remotely" proved my claim of "both". I respectfully still disagree, but I will honor what I said in regards to using doog to judge this.
You don't owe me anything but do please change the wording because BustaDice isn't provably-fair.
gg
Dooglus isn't sold that I "remotely" proved my claim of "both". I respectfully still disagree, but I will honor what I said in regards to using doog to judge this.
You don't owe me anything but do please change the wording because BustaDice isn't provably-fair.
gg
Perhaps if you lose the bet, you should publicly donate to them 
Are you trying to shake me out of donation that I didn't promise to make?
Just worry about yourself big dog.
If you're going to donate 9 BTC to the charity of my choice, I'll keep the 1 you give me. My sisters husband is a developer for "Heifer Project"... I believe they even accept BTC. I will help arrange for at least part of your 9 BTC donation to get to them safely if Dooglus rules in my favor.
Works for me. It looks like a good charity. Perhaps if you lose the bet, you should publicly donate to them
BAC is a known troll. It can't be your first run-in with him, can it?
He's had these spats with other reputable members. He attacked dooglus a few years ago but seems to have patched that up since then. Let him cool off and figure out on his own that he can't shake you down.
He's had these spats with other reputable members. He attacked dooglus a few years ago but seems to have patched that up since then. Let him cool off and figure out on his own that he can't shake you down.
BAC (BayAreaCoins) is a highly trusted member of the bitcoin community. I have dealt with him on several occasions and have zero reason to doubt his integrity.
Go ahead. In fact, if Dooglus agrees with you -- I'll send you the 1 BTC and another 9 to the (registered) charity of your choice =)
Quoted. I talk to dooglus almost every day.
In fact, dooglus commented (and supported) on my Blockchain.com issue just a few days ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52799144
If you're going to donate 9 BTC to the charity of my choice, I'll keep the 1 you give me. My sisters husband is a developer for "Heifer Project"... I believe they even accept BTC. I will help arrange for at least part of your 9 BTC donation to get to them safely if Dooglus rules in my favor.
Thanks for attempting to end this fast/amicably and I'll hollar at dooglus.
Edit #1:
You took an anthill and turned it into a molehill. You just took that molehill and turned it into a small mountain.
What you're doing now is equivalent to me saying that all of you are scammers, and since there are definitely some scammers on Bitcointalk then I'm some "percentage right".
That's the worst analogy I've ever heard and clearly not relevant.
I see it more like... if I cut half my finger off, can I tell people I cut my finger off without being a liar? Absolutely in my opinion.
If you said "whole finger" you'd be a liar though. Similarly, if you didn't have "both sites" in your post you would probably be right, but then RHavar wouldn't have challenged that. Words matter. Context matters. The context was clearly about bustadice vs bustabit.
As almost your entire post is post is nonsense, I'll ignore most of it:
I run the audit server. Every single bet bustadice takes is sent to the audit server, and bustadice can't know the game outcome until the audit server replies with it's part of the server seed. As such latency is extremely important, and it is almost a necessity to host them physically close together (hence us discussing which datacenters/locations are suitable for both of us).
Go ahead. In fact, if Dooglus agrees with you -- I'll send you the 1 BTC and another 9 to the (registered) charity of your choice =)
Also talking about you two deciding what Datacenter to use specifically for BustaDice
I run the audit server. Every single bet bustadice takes is sent to the audit server, and bustadice can't know the game outcome until the audit server replies with it's part of the server seed. As such latency is extremely important, and it is almost a necessity to host them physically close together (hence us discussing which datacenters/locations are suitable for both of us).
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Anyways, give me a few hours and I shall return to present my case to Bitcointalk! I will even forward this thread to Dooglus and a few other people.
Go ahead. In fact, if Dooglus agrees with you -- I'll send you the 1 BTC and another 9 to the (registered) charity of your choice =)
What you're doing now is equivalent to me saying that all of you are scammers, and since there are definitely some scammers on Bitcointalk then I'm some "percentage right".
That's the worst analogy I've ever heard and clearly not relevant.
I see it more like... if I cut half my finger off, can I tell people I cut my finger off without being a liar? Absolutely in my opinion.
Thanks for flat out ignoring my questions Suchmoon.
I'm skipping over the ad hominems since the thread isn't about me.
It's a binary outcome. You either prove that RHavar claimed both sites are "provably fair" or not. What you're doing now is equivalent to saying that all of you are scammers, and since there are definitely some scammers on Bitcointalk then such claim is "some percentage right".
Thanks for flat out ignoring my questions Suchmoon. I answered yours.
I'm not wrong, but thanks for your input.
0% is a really small number, you're sure about that? https://i.imgur.com/04g4cPI.png
This is the same advice I give to Ryan, but I also want to add that Ryan (or whoever) should fix their site to not say it is provably-fair for investors.
Giving investors a false sense of security in "provably-fair" is not OK if it's on 100% of the sites, 50% of the sites or even 1% of the sites.
Just fix it.
I'm not wrong, but thanks for your input.
You're 0% right.
0% is a really small number, you're sure about that? https://i.imgur.com/04g4cPI.png
You should admit that it's your misunderstanding and move on.
This is the same advice I give to Ryan, but I also want to add that Ryan (or whoever) should fix their site to not say it is provably-fair for investors.
Giving investors a false sense of security in "provably-fair" is not OK if it's on 100% of the sites, 50% of the sites or even 1% of the sites.
Just fix it.
Remotely: "in the slightest degree"
Thus far I believe I have remotely proven that Ryan has claimed 50% of the sites in my original claim are stating they are provably-fair to investors. Being 50% right if far more than being remotely right IMO.
Still researching...
Thus far I believe I have remotely proven that Ryan has claimed 50% of the sites in my original claim are stating they are provably-fair to investors. Being 50% right if far more than being remotely right IMO.
Still researching...
You're 0% right. Here is the context for your claim:
talking about bustadice in the bustabit thread.
I believe I have seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two".
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
This isn't the first time you and I have spoken about this. (99% sure we spoke about it in this thread in fact)
You're literally replying to a quote that mentions two sites and you're saying that RHavar claimed both sites are "provably fair". It should be obvious to any sane person reading this that he wasn't offering a reward for you to "prove" something that was already discussed earlier in the thread (bustadice's "provably fair" claim) but rather to prove that both sites had been described as "provably fair" in some way (remotely).
You should admit that it's your misunderstanding and move on.
Could it be your both partially right?
This is absolutely the case.
I haven't read yet what made this such a hostile situation, but if the two of you can't just sort this out over a virtual beer, I'll share my opinion after reading more of it. But that's not going to be tonight.
Since it appears I'm at least 50% right so far, I'll accept 50% of Ryans's promise & donate it.
I still think 50% is far more than "remotely"... hell, .5 rounds up to 1 for a reason!
So I'll leave it to bitcointalk, who is right?
It feels like I've only read the surface of this, but my first impression is that this was blown out of proportion over semantics. Could it be you're both partially right?I haven't read yet what made this such a hostile situation, but if the two of you can't just sort this out over a virtual beer, I'll share my opinion after reading more of it. But that's not going to be tonight.
I only had to "remotely" prove that he claimed investing was provably-fair to win the "bet" and here you go: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50191132
That link refers to the bustadice system. RHavar was talking about the bustabit system, in the bustabit thread. His post offering 1 BTC has no mention about bustadice, and your post that he quoted claims that both bustabit and bustadice are claimed to be provably fair for investors. You've proved the bustadice side, but I haven't seen anything about the bustabit side.
I've seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two".
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
lol, easy on the trigger there. I'll give you a bitcoin if you can remotely substantiate that. I've never said, or implied such a thing. I just checked the bustabit webpage and FAQ, and there's no claims like that either. Not to mention, bustabit doesn't even have an auditor system like bustadice does.
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Remotely: "in the slightest degree"
Thus far I believe I have remotely proven that Ryan has claimed 50% of the sites in my original claim are stating they are provably-fair to investors. Being 50% right if far more than being remotely right IMO.
Still researching...
You've proved the bustadice side
Thanks. I also appreciate the merit points you left me.
I only had to "remotely" prove that he claimed investing was provably-fair to win the "bet" and here you go: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50191132
That link refers to the bustadice system. RHavar was talking about the bustabit system, in the bustabit thread. His post offering 1 BTC has no mention about bustadice, and your post that he quoted claims that both bustabit and bustadice are claimed to be provably fair for investors. You've proved the bustadice side, but I haven't seen anything about the bustabit side.
I've seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two".
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
lol, easy on the trigger there. I'll give you a bitcoin if you can remotely substantiate that. I've never said, or implied such a thing. I just checked the bustabit webpage and FAQ, and there's no claims like that either. Not to mention, bustabit doesn't even have an auditor system like bustadice does.
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Seems the only thing he can cling onto is the google search result showing bustadice claims provable fairness for investors.
You didn't claim anywhere it's provably fair for investors, and this thread stands to prove that as it'd be quite contradictory if it comes up you do
BayAreaCoins arguments are completely irrelevant as
You didn't claim anywhere it's provably fair for investors, and this thread stands to prove that as it'd be quite contradictory if it comes up you do
BayAreaCoins arguments are completely irrelevant as
- You don't own Bustadice
- Daniel could claim that but it's on him, not you
- This should be pertaining to bustabit only, which also you don't have involvement with
Making multiple posts in a row is against the rules. Edit your post to add more info to it.
Report me then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU
Fucking tattle-tale. You're the one here getting your post count up for the signature campaign in your signature. This is none of your business & doesn't have anything to do with you does it?
SuchMoon since your here, are you saying that Ryan didn't claim BustaDice was provably-fair to investors? I know you don't know what provably-fair actually is, but you should be able to answer the question regardless.
Do you at least agree that this is the statement that RHavar challenged you to substantiate:
I've seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two".
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
Thus far it seems to be a BustaDice problem exclusively. However, it's still a major problem and an untrue statement made by Ryan.
I was trying to think back years and years within just a few minutes... I might have been mistake about BustaBit, but I'm still researching. I am not mistaken about Ryans claims that BustaDice is provably-fair for investors... I'm sure of that now.
I'll give you a bitcoin if you can remotely substantiate that.
I only had to "remotely" prove that he claimed investing was provably-fair to win the "bet" and here you go: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50191132
Anyways I'll be back with my real post this evening if I still need to.
There will be two three more posts following this one.
Making multiple posts in a row is against the rules. Edit your post to add more info to it.
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Most of that doesn't seem to relate to this thread. Do you at least agree that this is the statement that RHavar challenged you to substantiate:
I've seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two".
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so. Stop.
Also, I would like to make a pledge that I will be donating 100% "this" to Arkansas Children's Hospital. As I've done this fairly frequently in the past.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11874713
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12194471
Ryan, you don't know this, but last night I was extremely busy assisting a family properly go after a guy for touching their little kid.
(All this trash & nonsense aside please pray or hope or meditate or whatever you do that the Police are able to nab this mother fucker on Monday
)
The last thing I needed was your bullshit. You should have just said "Your right, we'll fix it, thank you" and left it at that.
Honestly, though you may have saved me from a murder charge because I was lining my trunk with plastic when you started doing your thing. I sincerely kind of thank you.
My talents are better used for protecting children rather than dealing with your misleading bullshit.
Just in case you think I'm some monster troll that would fucking lie about something like that:
Private message from this morning:
Title: "1 btc bet"
I don't know why you are private messaging me.
Don't worry. You have my undivided attention.
Anyways, I'll be back to make my "real" post in a bit.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11874713
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12194471
Ryan, you don't know this, but last night I was extremely busy assisting a family properly go after a guy for touching their little kid.
(All this trash & nonsense aside please pray or hope or meditate or whatever you do that the Police are able to nab this mother fucker on Monday
)The last thing I needed was your bullshit. You should have just said "Your right, we'll fix it, thank you" and left it at that.
Honestly, though you may have saved me from a murder charge because I was lining my trunk with plastic when you started doing your thing. I sincerely kind of thank you.
My talents are better used for protecting children rather than dealing with your misleading bullshit.
Just in case you think I'm some monster troll that would fucking lie about something like that:
Private message from this morning:
Title: "1 btc bet"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194451.new#new
Feel free to comment if you feel I have done a bad job summarizing or want to clarify things
Feel free to comment if you feel I have done a bad job summarizing or want to clarify things
I don't know why you are private messaging me.
Don't worry. You have my undivided attention.
Anyways, I'll be back to make my "real" post in a bit.
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