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Topic: Resolved: BayAreaCoins thinks I owe him money - page 2. (Read 349 times)

legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com & FreeBitcoins.com
BAC is a known troll.

This is new news to me.  I've always considered myself a hardworking dedicated honest businessman.

(which as he knows, I have no stake/ownership in and just act as an auditor of game results)

Again, stop saying what I do and do not know.  I absolutely do not know that you don't own BustaDice as I indicated in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52815404

That's strange because you sound like an owner here:

Ryan and I are proud to announce bustadice, a new take on classic dice.

Also talking about you two deciding what Datacenter to use specifically for BustaDice:



No, I mean BayAreaCoins. I've seen a few of his contrived disputes - with dooglus as I mentioned, someone else whose name now escapes me,

I imagine you're thinking of MPREP:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32479252

You could also be talking about me exposing a major flaw in Blockchain.com's new exchange called "The Pit" that has "military-grade" security: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/djpg2m/bug_bounty_scam_blockchaincom_hackeronecom_didnt/

I don't know how much you know about me... so you could be referencing my lawsuit that I settled a few weeks ago too:  https://caseinfo.arcourts.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=32CV-18-163&begin_date=&end_date= which resulted in: https://www.kait8.com/2019/05/17/police-couples-spending-spree-has-them-facing-charges/

I suppose you could talk about me pressing Poloniex in the shadows until we literally got them kicked the FUCK out of the United States as well: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52804694 & https://www.coindesk.com/margin-lenders-lost-13-5-million-in-may-to-poloniex-crypto-crash (Background: I own Clamcoin.org and FreeBitcoins.com.  The creator of CLAM, Xploited, is a partner & works for FreeBitcoins.com.  I get a pretty good look at the inside of the market.)

Yeah, in hindsight I should've just ignored him.

That probably would have been a really good idea.   Roll Eyes

I recall BAC being an upstanding member of the community, though I haven't seen him around lately

I've been working like a slave with Xploited attempting to our FreeBitcoins.com/xchange complete (the site is NOT live, please do NOT deposit).  I haven't had time to "troll" lately. (I'm not a troll)

I have a long history of selling items and being an honest trader here on Bitcointalk... anyone is welcome to review my Trust.  

I primarily sell my personal guns, metals & other cool "collectible" items (like crooked Silk Road DTF agents business cards).  (Google BayAreaCoins and look at the imagines [ignore the guy with sparklers in his ass, we were minting "buttcoins"] or look at my Steemit post from a while ago)

He's not on DT:

Who cares?  DT doesn't come with cookies or punch.

I don't need to be on default trust to honor my word, complete my sales, finish off transactions or be to a stand-up guy.  

I honestly don't know if I've every been on DT... nor do I care.  DT doesn't represent right and wrong.

Let him cool off and figure out on his own that he can't shake you down.

Let me be PERFECTLY CLEAR... I am not shaking down RHavar or anyone (primarily poor ole Blockchain.com  Roll Eyes).  

These folks are the ones that offered cryptocurrency in return for this or that.  I bring this or that to the table and they don't want to pay.  

@BayAreaCoins please feel free to add anything here

Sure!  Let me wake up a little bit, take a shower, grab something to eat and after that I'll be more than happy to make a detailed post here if I still need to.

Nice negative feedback, you clearly thought that one out eh?

So I'll call your bluff and raise you negative.

 Looks like you lost that hand.  Roll Eyes

Edit 1: I have removed the negative feedback i left on his profile to try de-escalate the situation a little  Grin

Cute, you're starting to type edits like mine!  

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. To imitate someone is to pay the person a genuine compliment — often an unintended compliment."

Anyways, give me a few hours and I shall return to present my case to Bitcointalk!  I will even forward this thread to Dooglus and a few other people.

Here are two important links for people who wish to research on their own while they wait for me to wake up:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52814059

&

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52814057

There is a right way and a wrong way to handle this.  You started going down the right way and you ended horribly wrong.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com & FreeBitcoins.com
Context:

* BayAreaCoins makes the accusation that I misrepresent both bustabit and bustadice sites as offering a provably fair system for investors.  link

* I strongly deny this, doubly so because bustabit offers zero investor protection (it's literally: 100%-trust-daniel), so it would be blindly obvious if I tried to pretend otherwise and furthermore, I have absolutely zero motivation to lie (considering I have no role in bustabit other than an unpaid chat mod). I offer him a bitcoin if he can substantiate his accusations link

* BayAreaCoins posts what he believes substantiate his claim link and now believes I owe him money.

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I think it's absurd as I don't believe he's found anything remotely like what he accused me of and intentionally conflates bustadice guarantees with bustabit, so he can try make it seem like I misrepresented things. Furthermore, I think he's engaged in childish trust abuse by giving me neutral-feedback regarding language on bustadice website (which as he knows, I have no stake/ownership in and just act as an auditor of game results). He is currently threatening negative feedback unless I pay him a bitcoin, something I think is not nearly merited.


So I'll leave it to bitcointalk, who is right?

@BayAreaCoins please feel free to add anything here, although I've tried to make the summary as objective as possible.


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Edit 1: I have removed the negative feedback i left on his profile to try de-escalate the situation a little  Grin

I'm just waking up.  This post is intended to quote Mr. Ryan.  There will be two three more posts following this one.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
BAC is a known troll. It can't be your first run-in with him, can it?
Are you thinking of TheButterZone?  I recall BAC being an upstanding member of the community, though I haven't seen him around lately, nor TBZ for that matter.  I only ask that because for some reason I get the two confused and figure other members might as well.  I'm not trying to insult your recall, which is probably much better than mine.

No, I mean BayAreaCoins. I've seen a few of his contrived disputes - with dooglus as I mentioned, someone else whose name now escapes me, now RHavar - so I can't really describe it other than trolling. Here is a classic BAC shapeshift maneuver, and he still thinks he's right (emphasis mine):

talking about bustadice in the bustabit thread.

I believe I have seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two". 

You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so.  Stop.

This isn't the first time you and I have spoken about this. (99% sure we spoke about it in this thread in fact)

I've seen you make the claim that both sites are "provably fair" for investors IF you trust you "two". 

You're misusing the word and giving investors a false sense of security by doing so.  Stop.

lol, easy on the trigger there. I'll give you a bitcoin if you can remotely substantiate that. I've never said, or implied such a thing. I just checked the bustabit webpage and FAQ, and there's no claims like that either. Not to mention, bustabit doesn't even have an auditor system like bustadice does.

quoted, give me a minute Tongue

[ some stuff about bustadice, some stuff not said by RHavar, etc ]

I believe I have "remotely" shown that you have claimed that BustaDice and/or BustaBit is provably-fair for investors when it is in fact not (see "Edit #4).



OP, at least the feedback he left was neutral, so it doesn't affect your trust score in any way--but I totally understand your frustration.  BAC used to be on DT.  Is that still the case?  I honestly have no idea who's on DT1/2 anymore and don't even remember how to check.

He's not on DT:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=389331;dt
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 6809
Cashback 15%
BAC is a known troll. It can't be your first run-in with him, can it?
Are you thinking of TheButterZone?  I recall BAC being an upstanding member of the community, though I haven't seen him around lately, nor TBZ for that matter.  I only ask that because for some reason I get the two confused and figure other members might as well.  I'm not trying to insult your recall, which is probably much better than mine.

OP, at least the feedback he left was neutral, so it doesn't affect your trust score in any way--but I totally understand your frustration.  BAC used to be on DT.  Is that still the case?  I honestly have no idea who's on DT1/2 anymore and don't even remember how to check.

legendary
Activity: 2557
Merit: 1886
Yeah, in hindsight I should've just ignored him. I thought if I  offered him incentive to go through my post history, he'd realize he was mistaken or misremember or something. Instead I've just given him a lot of reasons to think he was right about something he clearly isn't.

Well hopefully this thread will help him see it's hard to find people who can agree with his point of view, and maybe he wasn't right ><
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
BAC is a known troll. It can't be your first run-in with him, can it?

He's had these spats with other reputable members. He attacked dooglus a few years ago but seems to have patched that up since then. Let him cool off and figure out on his own that he can't shake you down.
legendary
Activity: 2557
Merit: 1886
Context:

* BayAreaCoins makes the accusation that I misrepresent both bustabit and bustadice sites as offering a provably fair system for investors.  link

* I strongly deny this, doubly so because bustabit offers zero investor protection (it's literally: 100%-trust-daniel), so it would be blindly obvious if I tried to pretend otherwise and furthermore, I have absolutely zero motivation to lie (considering I have no role in bustabit other than an unpaid chat mod). I offer him a bitcoin if he can substantiate his accusations link

* BayAreaCoins posts what he believes substantiate his claim link and now believes I owe him money.

---

I think it's absurd as I don't believe he's found anything remotely like what he accused me of and intentionally conflates bustadice guarantees with bustabit, so he can try make it seem like I misrepresented things. Furthermore, I think he's engaged in childish trust abuse by giving me neutral-feedback regarding language on bustadice website (which as he knows, I have no stake/ownership in and just act as an auditor of game results). He is currently threatening negative feedback unless I pay him a bitcoin, something I think is not nearly merited.


So I'll leave it to bitcointalk, who is right?

@BayAreaCoins please feel free to add anything here, although I've tried to make the summary as objective as possible.


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Edit 1: I have removed the negative feedback i left on his profile to try de-escalate the situation a little  Grin
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