{RESOLVED} Nitrogensports making excuses to pay me my poker tournament winnings. - page 2.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on May 12, 2021, 12:43:06 PM

If they don't want gamblers to win using free roll then they should not have free roll if they can't afford to pay the cash out. It only made them a very shady gambling site even if it's in their terms. You can do what the other complainant to nitrogensports and then later on if it's resolved then makw it neutral but if not then you can keep it as red and stay away from it.

This reasons only make it ridiculous and made people lose their trust on their gambling platform. Not just shady but really a scammy tactics that leads people to waste their effort on playing with their tournaments. Excuses or whatsoever reason is that, still there's a serious problem happening in this site. I'm just hoping after all sorts of reported case would be taken action just to prove their end in order to fix their errors.

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Quote from: thsceptic on May 11, 2021, 08:37:23 PM

~ This is clearly the difference between a professional platform (who understand poker and how difficult is to win two tourneys back to back) and a complete hoax scam artist.

Then maybe play on professional platforms and avoid such places. What was the reason that you decided to play there in the first place? Let me guess, seemingly better bonuses, conditions, and all that, than on other sites, right? That should be a red flag, no? That and zero to no reviews on legitimate sites. I've checked it and found that there's no trustworthy positive review on nitrobetting. I wouldn't expect much from such a site.

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Quote from: phinzphan on May 12, 2021, 01:44:18 PM

In both Nitrogen and Nitrobetting, Their Poker FAQ Has

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Can I withdraw my winnings without making a deposit?
No, all players are required to make a first time deposit before being able to withdraw any winnings from poker freerolls, contests, and free bet giveaways.

This implies someone can deposit, place a bet in sports or casino, and they are good to go with poker freerolls. Nothing about a 5x rollover. What gives here?

Another issue:

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Can I play with my Nitrogen and Nitrobetting accounts at the same time?
No, as this would be considered multi-accounting.

As far as I can tell, the two sites run completely different tournaments and cash games. So it's still wrong to play at both sites?

seriously any serious reputable poker platform will laugh at this, so what nitrogen is saying that I played two freerolls? Is 0.1mbtc buy in 1.5mbtc gtd is a free roll? The answer is NO. So my winnings are not from free roll.
Now lets come back to free roll which I won which clearly is a free roll, and I won 0.1mbtc ticket ( non cashable), which I was not able to cash out so there is no question of cashing out free rolls.
Also what happens to the buy ins of other players who bought in for 0.1mbtc ? Isnt it the plain scam.
Even if I forget all the above and accept the logic of nitro ( which is clearly false), wtf is 5x roll over ( that too is of generated rake)?
And most importantly what is about all my stress and efforts that I have put in just for fighting my genuine case, will it go uncompensated?

Not to mention that they are portraying free rolls winners as they have done something wrong by winning free roll, lol. Al most every reputable website pay the free roll winners without any silly conditions. It is completely unethical and no wonder their tables are empty.

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In both Nitrogen and Nitrobetting, Their Poker FAQ Has

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Can I withdraw my winnings without making a deposit?
No, all players are required to make a first time deposit before being able to withdraw any winnings from poker freerolls, contests, and free bet giveaways.

This implies someone can deposit, place a bet in sports or casino, and they are good to go with poker freerolls. Nothing about a 5x rollover. What gives here?

Another issue:

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Can I play with my Nitrogen and Nitrobetting accounts at the same time?
No, as this would be considered multi-accounting.

As far as I can tell, the two sites run completely different tournaments and cash games. So it's still wrong to play at both sites?

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If they don't want gamblers to win using free roll then they should not have free roll if they can't afford to pay the cash out. It only made them a very shady gambling site even if it's in their terms. You can do what the other complainant to nitrogensports and then later on if it's resolved then makw it neutral but if not then you can keep it as red and stay away from it.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 12, 2021, 03:01:07 AM

Quote from: semobo on May 12, 2021, 02:19:36 AM

Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

I agree the promo terms where you're forced to roll it over is very common but not all sites require you to rollover the reward 5x.

From my experience the usual rollover on most sites is very low like 1x or maybe 2x at best.

Yes, the amount they are asking is too huge but it maybe their strategy and its their terms which is also same as nitrogensports if I am nit wrong then why OP wants to win a promotion from them when they have such greedy terms favours them more.

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i think you need to Post in their ANN Thread also like this one did and the Red Tagged Owner of Nitrogen respond easily?

Quote from: NitrogenSports on May 10, 2021, 12:29:42 AM

Quote from: Maasdamer on May 09, 2021, 06:51:50 AM

Another day, another "technical issue" at nitro.

Cashier not updating, won bets not added to balance so winnings are basically unable to withdraw.

Not fixed after 6 hours and counting.

EDIT: seems like withdrawing is impossible in general . https://imgur.com/a/Rn3WxSb

Also people deposit and don't get their money. Problem exists for many hours but yet nitro doesn't bother to make an announcement on top of the window like they normally do.

Hi Maasdamer. We apologize for the inconvenience caused. The issues you mentioned have been fixed earlier. Don't hesitate to contact us for any assistance you may need via Twitter, chat, or by sending a support ticket.

Thanks.
Kevin

though i doubt if they will Go to favor you in the end Grin

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Sorry for your experience mate but Just look at the brighter side .

Imagine that you played and Win without any single amount depositing , so what more those who had been scammed by Nitrogen with deposit history?

do they must felt more harder than what's yours?

Best not to trust this site and better never deposit as what they are advising you for claiming.

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Now they are showing their true Gills by this.

just 1.01 mbtc and they are willing to reveal their identity just because the winning comes from free roll? they should have not offer this free roll after all.

Why they allow non active player to be part of the competition and they force to deposit before giving the wins? an obvious SCAM Strategy so you will lose first before they give your win.

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Quote from: semobo on May 12, 2021, 02:19:36 AM

Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

I agree the promo terms where you're forced to roll it over is very common but not all sites require you to rollover the reward 5x.

From my experience the usual rollover on most sites is very low like 1x or maybe 2x at best.

Quote from: thsceptic on May 12, 2021, 01:49:17 AM

By specific requirement you mean deposit equal to you tournament winnings ( which is not a free roll) and generate 5x rake of your winnings?

Yes, since that's what they require based on your screenshot.

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Quote from: semobo on May 12, 2021, 02:19:36 AM

Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

What they are asking him to do is virtually impossible since the cash games rarely run, if ever.

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Quote from: semobo on May 12, 2021, 02:19:36 AM

Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

Name any reputable poker platform which require you to deposit and generate rake equal to five time your tournament winnings and I will keep silent for ever. The thing is hat it is plan scam and if I will not expose they will carry on with these type of things.

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Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 12, 2021, 01:21:47 AM

They also had the same rules on their sports promotions where if you win one of their bitcoin prizes and a new player you're also forced to deposit and provide some action before you get to withdraw the promo reward.

Quote from: zanezane on May 11, 2021, 11:42:28 PM

The business doesn't really expect that someone with a free roll is going to hit it big so they have to find a way to make the winner miserable by making it look like the player cheated the system. I do agree that the player has to receive the win, withholding makes the site a bitter loser in the face of things.

I think they already knew this would happen since they have a specific requirement for new players while regular players are free to withdraw these rewards.

By specific requirement you mean deposit equal to you tournament winnings ( which is not a free roll) and generate 5x rake of your winnings?

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They also had the same rules on their sports promotions where if you win one of their bitcoin prizes and a new player you're also forced to deposit and provide some action before you get to withdraw the promo reward.

Quote from: zanezane on May 11, 2021, 11:42:28 PM

The business doesn't really expect that someone with a free roll is going to hit it big so they have to find a way to make the winner miserable by making it look like the player cheated the system. I do agree that the player has to receive the win, withholding makes the site a bitter loser in the face of things.

I think they already knew this would happen since they have a specific requirement for new players while regular players are free to withdraw these rewards.

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Quote from: cabron on May 11, 2021, 09:36:41 PM

I don't get it why they would give you freeroll when if you win they won't allow you to withdraw?

It's not the honest way for promoting the betting site as it's just making the users go waste their time. Now it's going to ruin their reputation instead. No matter how small or big the amount he won, it deserves to be sent to him.

The business doesn't really expect that someone with a free roll is going to hit it big so they have to find a way to make the winner miserable by making it look like the player cheated the system. I do agree that the player has to receive the win, withholding makes the site a bitter loser in the face of things.

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I don't get it why they would give you freeroll when if you win they won't allow you to withdraw?

It's not the honest way for promoting the betting site as it's just making the users go waste their time. Now it's going to ruin their reputation instead. No matter how small or big the amount he won, it deserves to be sent to him.

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Quote from: ap50921 on May 11, 2021, 08:46:59 PM

Quote from: thsceptic on May 11, 2021, 02:04:30 PM

Just pay that man his money.

I understand what they did is completely wrong but please can you explain what you mean by pay that man his money? Is this not your own case?

He was quoting the movie "Rounders" in a meme-ish kinda way

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Quote from: thsceptic on May 11, 2021, 02:04:30 PM

Just pay that man his money.

I understand what they did is completely wrong but please can you explain what you mean by pay that man his money? Is this not your own case?

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Quote from: phinzphan on May 11, 2021, 08:07:32 PM

Yikes. What do they have to gain from this? they are just wasting yours and their time. No matter the site, when I see something in my "main" balance, that always told me all the requirements are meant (or they're are none), I crossed my t's, dotted my i's and that balance is mine to do as I wish.

Furthermore I just checked their cash games and literally 0 people are playing so it's going to be next to impossible to meet that rollover. If they MUST do it this way, give us a chance to roll it over through the casino or sportsbook.

Exactly my reactions initially.
The thing is it is completely unethical and immoral to force a winner to play by stopping him to cash out his rightful winnings, that is what hurt me. This is clearly the difference between a professional platform (who understand poker and how difficult is to win two tourneys back to back) and a complete hoax scam artist.
You can not simply arbitrarily ask winner to generate 300$ of rake to cash out 50$ which you won fair and squared.
Another thing that bothers me is following,
If they are not releasing my winnings which are straight from other peoples pocket (other players buy ins) how come they will be paying casino winnings which will be form their own pocket. I will honestly advise anyone who is thinking of making any deposit there to stay away.

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