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sr. member
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March 12, 2024, 10:36:57 AM
So anyway, I've noticed that as soon as I do a few reviews I always get at least 2-3 requests within hours of doing them.  Can anybody think of an innocent explanation for that?  It's obvious to me that people are either looking at my merit-giving activity or saw that I just gave one of their alt accounts some merits (and I have no way of knowing).  It's making my paranoia itch.

Then i think its time for you to revisit the rules for applications and make it clear for anyone not to use alts in applying and if i may bring a suggestion to you, you can demand that each application can be made once in three month and no alts account should apply or risk being tagged, what you're doing is out of love and passion you have for the members of the forum to receive a fair worthy merit to their quality posts, but flooding request once they see that you're giving more will attract them to abuse the privilege, but restricting alts from applying and making each applicant to only have a privilege of quarterly application will give you enough time to make it up to every deserving applicants, even though am also not able to send you a PM long time ago, but i count it nothing than to keep the quality post and without applying, one day you may find my post worthy of receiving merits from you, keep up the good works.
legendary
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March 12, 2024, 10:12:56 AM
I already wrote it, but I still think that the best way to reward a post with merit is the natural one, which means that you read the forum and then reward the post that you think is "good" according to your criteria. For me, it makes more sense to use your monthly supply in a way to reward 10-20 posts you come across by using the forum normally, than to wonder if someone is taking advantage of your kindness - and I'm sure some are doing just that.
I know, and I took your words to heart, believe me.  The problem is that there's no way I'm going to be able to unload anywhere near my monthly allocation of sMerits just by meriting posts I come across--plus I think my offer is a good way to help out members who need merits and otherwise might have their posts overlooked.  That could be because they're complete crap, but it could also be due to the sections those posts are in.  In any case, I don't just hand out 50 merits/month to anyone who asks.  It's not even close to that kind of situation, and yes I do realize that there are most likely alt accounts requesting reviews from me.  Note that I did not make a rule about that, but it is irritating to contemplate.  On the other hand, as long as the posts meet my standards for merit, I don't think I'm encouraging shitposting (at least I hope not; said standards have increased, and I've sent out tons of PMs to members telling them to either improve their posts or simply that they don't qualify for a review).

You are ofcourse a celebrity.
I am no such thing.  If you could see me behind the keyboard you would assume I regularly sleep on a park bench and forage for food in dumpsters.

Also the forum is open, by visiting your profile, I would know how much merits you have given out today. So, such a thing shouldn't bother you because this is an open forum, everyone who visits your profile frequently will definitely know when you start releasing merits.
Why in the world would anyone keep checking my profile?  Is that a thing for some people?
legendary
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March 12, 2024, 09:24:55 AM
So anyway, I've noticed that as soon as I do a few reviews I always get at least 2-3 requests within hours of doing them.  Can anybody think of an innocent explanation for that?  It's obvious to me that people are either looking at my merit-giving activity or saw that I just gave one of their alt accounts some merits (and I have no way of knowing).  It's making my paranoia itch.
Someone offering post review and issuing merits is regarded as a forum philanthropist. You are ofcourse a celebrity. Also the forum is open, by visiting your profile, I would know how much merits you have given out today. So, such a thing shouldn't bother you because this is an open forum, everyone who visits your profile frequently will definitely know when you start releasing merits. Don't be surprised that there are people who on loggin into the forum, they will first visit your profile to know your merit activities.
legendary
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March 12, 2024, 06:19:22 AM
~snip~
So anyway, I've noticed that as soon as I do a few reviews I always get at least 2-3 requests within hours of doing them.  Can anybody think of an innocent explanation for that?  It's obvious to me that people are either looking at my merit-giving activity or saw that I just gave one of their alt accounts some merits (and I have no way of knowing).  It's making my paranoia itch.


It could be one of the two things you mentioned, and the third possibility that comes to my mind is that the users to whom you give merits may communicate with each other and thus find out that you have become active again. I don't think you can be sure what it is about, because the "community" we are talking about here does not have very high moral principles when it comes to using alt accounts, plagiarizing or using AI.

I already wrote it, but I still think that the best way to reward a post with merit is the natural one, which means that you read the forum and then reward the post that you think is "good" according to your criteria. For me, it makes more sense to use your monthly supply in a way to reward 10-20 posts you come across by using the forum normally, than to wonder if someone is taking advantage of your kindness - and I'm sure some are doing just that.
legendary
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March 11, 2024, 06:29:58 PM
I tried to resend my request for review, but the error message was that "my personal messages have been blocked"


I would like to publicly apologize if I did anything wrong before to warrant this. @ The Sceptical Chymist
I was going to bump this thread anyway, but I guess I never replied to Queentoshi.  If I look at a member's post history and it's obvious that there's very little chance of that member improving their posts (more often than not because of a massive language barrier), I put their PMs on ignore so as not to have my time wasted.  I also do the same when I've given members a chance to improve their posts to meet my criteria for merit and they've failed.

So anyway, I've noticed that as soon as I do a few reviews I always get at least 2-3 requests within hours of doing them.  Can anybody think of an innocent explanation for that?  It's obvious to me that people are either looking at my merit-giving activity or saw that I just gave one of their alt accounts some merits (and I have no way of knowing).  It's making my paranoia itch.

Also, I'm starting to get back to reviews after a long slump for which I apologize.  A lot of real life stuff is happening, and I haven't been a great merit source as of late. 
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October 18, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
so I anticipated tons of PMs.  It doesn't matter what kind of mood I'm in, believe me, because you're probably going to have to wait a bit until I can get to you anyway.  My queue is long and my laziness isn't helping matters.
Thank you for saying this, because I now understand exactly how your DM is and why maybe I never got a reply.

I don't know why certain members feel intimidated like this.  I'm nothing special on bitcointalk, just a merit source and a guy who just happened to have stuck around this joint for a few years.  What is it you think I could possibly do to you if you send me a message, especially one that I've essentially solicited by virtue of making the offer that's the subject of this thread?  I'm not going to give you negative trust or even bite your head off if your posts don't meet my standards.  
I cannot say I was not intimidated, my reason for not sending a follow up message because I felt like I did something wrong.

You don't need anybody's permission to send them a PM.  If you're using PMs to promote something or whatever, those might get reported but you don't need to feel timid just because someone has a higher rank than you or has been here longer.
You are a humble person, thank you for making lower rank members like me feel more comfortable with you.


EDITS:

I tried to resend my request for review, but the error message was that "my personal messages have been blocked"


I would like to publicly apologize if I did anything wrong before to warrant this. @ The Sceptical Chymist
sr. member
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October 18, 2023, 01:22:58 PM

You don't need anybody's permission to send them a PM.  If you're using PMs to promote something or whatever, those might get reported but you don't need to feel timid just because someone has a higher rank than you or has been here longer.  Ideally we should be helping each other, and that's kind of tough when there appears to be a hierarchy, power structure, or the like that inhibits communication.

TL;DR: Feel free to PM me, any of you.
Nice to read this from you. Honestly bitcointalk is so dynamic and sometimes unpredictable, especially when there are so many unofficial police in a forum where no police get punished even when they make wrong decisions or accusations. I most times have seen this type of thread intending to help people (new users), but I skip them because some come with conditions while some look like traps.
If only here could be seen by everyone as a community where people come to learn about bitcoin and also get necessary help, it would be fine.

Is most likely that some see here as a place to display superiority by oppressing the new generation members. Also I have seen new members attacking old members with great audacity. I have seen old members leave negative tags for slight mistakes and then the same tag givers also help others to grow by giving merits.
Tbh, here is so dynamic and I can say that it is unique also. Thanks for the offer and I think I will try my luck.
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October 18, 2023, 05:41:55 AM
You don't need anybody's permission to send them a PM.  If you're using PMs to promote something or whatever, those might get reported but you don't need to feel timid just because someone has a higher rank than you or has been here longer.  Ideally we should be helping each other, and that's kind of tough when there appears to be a hierarchy, power structure, or the like that inhibits communication.

TL;DR: Feel free to PM me, any of you.

Fear that has turned into courage. This happened after getting an extraordinary input for me to look into myself closer so that my confidence increased because he asked to review my post. During this time I do it very often routinely on the local board and find many positive things.

I had thought carefully about various advice that I would never find the location of the shortcomings if I did not have the courage to ask people to do it because I only had two eyes and it turned out to be true for positive things.

So, I have thrown away that fear and ventured to things that can bring my self-change. It turned out that the wisdom was quite large because all the input was valuable even though initially scared asking people to visit the profile and ask to review a post like fear of my mother when he was scolded and ignored because the level of confidence was not ready.

Just like I responded to this, courage was 70%, the rest was fear and over time I would continue to try to decrease.
hero member
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October 14, 2023, 09:28:57 AM

 (Ah... even though I usually don't like to praise someone)

It's no biggie. You just admire @Chymist's style of writing and I kinda enjoy reading it too. So playful and on point at the same time. He's one of the few users I've been opportuned to come across who doesn't take things too seriously but that doesn't mean you should take liberties though.
@pytagoraZ, I'm glad you've settled within yourself that this is a public space where opinions differ and some have no filter when dishing it out because that will help you go far here.
 It's not everyone that has the ability to take criticism both good and bad and work on where needs to be worked on, some will prefer to snap, thereby missing out on the essence of the criticism (good, in this case).
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
October 14, 2023, 07:58:17 AM
Don't worry, my skin is thick enough now, I still remember you giving me that advice when I made a post about complaints against other members. I'm also starting to get to know your writing style, which is often sarcastic and cynical  Grin. If I'm honest, at first I hated JG for making a tag on my account, but maybe I should thank him because since arguing with him I've been challenged to read more forum rules (because I don't want to lose to him) even though in the end I can't do much . But the neutral tag doesn't seem bad  Cheesy
Good, glad to hear your skin has thickened and hopefully you don't take things so personally that you either start to think this forum sucks or, even worse, decide to abandon it altogether.  Yes, I am as cynical as one can be and often sarcastic--but humor and sarcasm don't often translate well when written, and I try to keep that in mind.

I like this forum, one thing I don't like so far is that not many members really like discussing and like to leave discussions before the discussion is finished. Even though I'm not good at English, I know you often use metaphors in your writing and it's certainly an advanced writing aesthetic (Ah... even though I usually don't like to praise someone)

And hey, JollyGood even wrote in his feedback that once he figures out who you are and what you're trying to do (if anything), he'll review that neutral.  Coulda been a hell of a lot worse.  You could have gotten a big ol' DT1 negative and then had that member die or just disappear forever from the forum.  You'd be stuck with that black eye forever.  Positive thinking, my man.

Hahahaha... It seems like a lot of members are hoping I made a mistake or found proof that I'm an alt, but so far no one has found it because I'm just me and nothing else

However, it seems like the negative tag only applies to regular members, I saw several popular members have negative tags including JG, but it looks like it's okay and they can still take part in the campaign. Trust systems are truly confusing

In fact, as far as I know, if we get a negative tag, we can still discuss it here. However, because not many members really like discussing, they will leave, because they only discuss for money
hero member
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October 14, 2023, 06:30:31 AM
You don't need anybody's permission to send them a PM.  If you're using PMs to promote something or whatever, those might get reported but you don't need to feel timid just because someone has a higher rank than you or has been here longer.  Ideally we should be helping each other, and that's kind of tough when there appears to be a hierarchy, power structure, or the like that inhibits communication.

TL;DR: Feel free to PM me, any of you.


You just explained everything actually most times it's scary to me while sending out pm in request to get my profile reviewed though this led me to create my personal topic on the reputation board seeking for the higher member to justify my profile or give a rating on my overall performance for the few months I have decided to change my posting style and also becoming more useful to our local board. So kindly I got few people whom I respected mostly got rated and they commended on my overall performance and since then I have been striving and I didn't even know when I succeeded going this far in rank but I can term it to the effects of change I have just accepted. Actually I never had a very solid skin over here whereby to whatever they said always got me pierced in my body which I have been trying to learn to grow a very thick skin to be able to withstand any pressure or the amount criticism that may arose from whomever.

One thing I later understood is that sometimes we can always judge by ourselves that Mrs. A could be very hard to approach and get accessed to but until we come encountered with them we can never tell how soft they are except coming in contact with them, so actually I was scared to Pm'ed you but your feedback gives me this joy and happiness that you are not what I thought about and same to others. Although sometimes when I am replying some comments i do include Sir, but few people did never wanted it and they always wanted anyone coming across their way to address them with their names. Well did not see this as any problem otherwise I wouldn't have address my pm with your names below but, I learnt that from reputable user who also suggested that few reputable user especially the high profile don't find it funny while addressing them with their names so I apologise if that gets you upset as well.

Btw there's this mentality I do have that most of the higher profile do not want the lower rank to grow but along the line the more I keeps exploring here the more I unveiled more things that shows I was wrong with my instincts and state of mind that is why we don't need to allowed our emotions or instincts controls us (especially people like me) who always allowed emotions to be controlled. Sincerely speaking I feels honored and grateful to interact with you irrespective of my newbie nature, of course I wouldn't say I knew it all because I am here open and always ready to learn my rank won't play any bad role in me rather to be positioned to learn and upgrade my wisdom bank.

Thank you sir ❤️
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October 14, 2023, 04:54:57 AM
Thank you for the feedback, though was actually waiting for your permission before sending it especially someone like me do not like a random pm from unauthorized user and I know how sucking it could be to us. Mostly someone like you for a review from various users sometimes its gets someone weird especially when you are not in a happy moment that was why I didn't send any till upon your approval which I just did now.
You're a Sr. Member and have been here a couple of years, right?  Well I get PMs from all sorts of members, from Jr. up to Hero, and most of the time when they initially message me I have no idea who they are.  But I extended this offer to the entire community (except for Legendary members), so I anticipated tons of PMs.  It doesn't matter what kind of mood I'm in, believe me, because you're probably going to have to wait a bit until I can get to you anyway.  My queue is long and my laziness isn't helping matters.

I don't know why certain members feel intimidated like this.  I'm nothing special on bitcointalk, just a merit source and a guy who just happened to have stuck around this joint for a few years.  What is it you think I could possibly do to you if you send me a message, especially one that I've essentially solicited by virtue of making the offer that's the subject of this thread?  I'm not going to give you negative trust or even bite your head off if your posts don't meet my standards. 

You don't need anybody's permission to send them a PM.  If you're using PMs to promote something or whatever, those might get reported but you don't need to feel timid just because someone has a higher rank than you or has been here longer.  Ideally we should be helping each other, and that's kind of tough when there appears to be a hierarchy, power structure, or the like that inhibits communication.

TL;DR: Feel free to PM me, any of you.
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October 14, 2023, 03:30:29 AM
Again I will also want to request for a review from you, I could have submitted my application but since I didn't know you are still accepting new application or not. Please if you are still accepting I don't mind trying my luck as I believe I have increased in my post quality, your feedback is highly appreciated.
Did you PM me?  You have to do it that way, not by posting here.  You might well have and I just haven't seen it, but I'm just saying. 

Thank you for the feedback, though was actually waiting for your permission before sending it especially someone like me do not like a random pm from unauthorized user and I know how sucking it could be to us. Mostly someone like you for a review from various users sometimes its gets someone weird especially when you are not in a happy moment that was why I didn't send any till upon your approval which I just did now.
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October 14, 2023, 02:16:28 AM
Don't worry, my skin is thick enough now, I still remember you giving me that advice when I made a post about complaints against other members. I'm also starting to get to know your writing style, which is often sarcastic and cynical  Grin. If I'm honest, at first I hated JG for making a tag on my account, but maybe I should thank him because since arguing with him I've been challenged to read more forum rules (because I don't want to lose to him) even though in the end I can't do much . But the neutral tag doesn't seem bad  Cheesy
Good, glad to hear your skin has thickened and hopefully you don't take things so personally that you either start to think this forum sucks or, even worse, decide to abandon it altogether.  Yes, I am as cynical as one can be and often sarcastic--but humor and sarcasm don't often translate well when written, and I try to keep that in mind.

And hey, JollyGood even wrote in his feedback that once he figures out who you are and what you're trying to do (if anything), he'll review that neutral.  Coulda been a hell of a lot worse.  You could have gotten a big ol' DT1 negative and then had that member die or just disappear forever from the forum.  You'd be stuck with that black eye forever.  Positive thinking, my man.

Here we go again! Another merit source has placed the gaming board on the ignore list. This will only worsen till thyemos appoints one for us.  Angry

Side Note: I agree with you on the rate of spam on the gambling board, particularly in non-moderated threads, but if you really want to find serious gamblers with deep thoughts and quality, you have to go in self-moderated threads.
Wait a sec.  Did you read the explanation I gave for my decision to not merit gambling posts?  It isn't because of shitposts necessarily, it's mainly because I can't tell the difference between a post that's saying something true and meaningful and one that's total horseshit--and that's due to my own ignorance of gambling.

On top of that I suspect I might be getting alt accounts PMing me with most of their posts in the gambling section.  I said explicitly that I have nothing fundamentally against gambling.  

That part in bold up there?  I'm not out to merit anything in any particular section; I'm just reviewing members' post histories, so I'm just looking in whatever sections those members post in.  There might be excellent posts in self-modded threads by gamblers, but if the members who are requesting reviews don't post there, I'm not going to see them (and once again, l am ignorant of gambling-related stuff, so that point still holds).

Again I will also want to request for a review from you, I could have submitted my application but since I didn't know you are still accepting new application or not. Please if you are still accepting I don't mind trying my luck as I believe I have increased in my post quality, your feedback is highly appreciated.
Did you PM me?  You have to do it that way, not by posting here.  You might well have and I just haven't seen it, but I'm just saying.  I've got to get caught up, because right now I feel like the biggest merit source slouch there is--and I'm probably right on the money.
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October 09, 2023, 12:38:23 PM
First I'd like to say that when I get requests for reviews, I'm always on the lookout for shenanigans.  The rule of this forum since I've been a member is that if something can be abused in order to milk it for all it's worth, there's going to be a bunch of idiot shitposters trying to do it.  Therefore when I started my offer to the community I expected people to get over on me in as many ways as can be imagined.

Over the last few months I've noticed that I'm getting requests from members who:

1. Post in a very similar style (which I'm not going to describe here, lest it cause those members and/or their alts to change their habits in order to drop off my radar).
2. Post primarily in the gambling section.
3. Are in gambling-related sig campaigns, sometimes the same one.
4. Sometimes have registration dates close enough that they arouse my suspicions.

I actually went back though my merit history and made a table of some of the above info and used it to judge whether there was something to my suspicions or if they were just me being paranoid.  I came to conclude that there's something fishy going on and therefore I am no longer going to give any merits for posts in the gambling section, since it seems like that's where I might be getting taken advantage of.

The second reason for my decision is that I'm not a gambler and have a hard time judging the value or even the veracity of some posts about gambling.  I can usually tell if someone has put in a decent amount of thought and effort into a post, and I've always given great weight to that when deciding to give out merits, but I think I've been too generous when it comes to gambling posts.  This is going to apply to requests that arrived anywhere in my waiting list, i.e., retroactively.

I'll leave this thread open for a bit.  I'd apologize but I'm not sorry.

I love your decisions, and although I am not a regular gambling poster but sometimes I do give out my little ideas that is not deep into much gambling discussions.
Again I will like to suggest you indicates the only section you will be receiving, or exclude those boards on the op so that if any one is applying for a review they will know that these are the board that you won't accept the review because I know too well that not everyone will read this update here and they would still go ahead to include the gambling board you don't want to review, sometimes seeing those messages might gets you angry maybe you may decide to skip such review.

Again I will also want to request for a review from you, I could have submitted my application but since I didn't know you are still accepting new application or not. Please if you are still accepting I don't mind trying my luck as I believe I have increased in my post quality, your feedback is highly appreciated.

Thank you
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October 08, 2023, 11:30:13 AM
I came to conclude that there's something fishy going on and therefore I am no longer going to give any merits for posts in the gambling section, since it seems like that's where I might be getting taken advantage of.

Here we go again! Another merit source has placed the gaming board on the ignore list. This will only worsen till thyemos appoints one for us.  Angry

Side Note: I agree with you on the rate of spam on the gambling board, particularly in non-moderated threads, but if you really want to find serious gamblers with deep thoughts and quality, you have to go in self-moderated threads. There is minimally no spam on these threads. All reputable gamblers only post on self-moderated threads. GL

I haven't seen your merits on self -moderated thread- you're looking at the wrong place mate.  Cheesy
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
October 08, 2023, 11:23:43 AM
~cut~

Don't worry, my skin is thick enough now, I still remember you giving me that advice when I made a post about complaints against other members. I'm also starting to get to know your writing style, which is often sarcastic and cynical  Grin. If I'm honest, at first I hated JG for making a tag on my account, but maybe I should thank him because since arguing with him I've been challenged to read more forum rules (because I don't want to lose to him) even though in the end I can't do much . But the neutral tag doesn't seem bad  Cheesy

~cut~

Yes, maybe many beginners don't take much time to read more here and end up badly. but I also don't know what the motivation of the peoples here is
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October 08, 2023, 11:05:42 AM
On the one hand, sometimes I see people like you giving negative tags as if you really hate beginners, but on the other hand you help beginners. In my opinion, studying this forum is not enough if I just read the rules, but it takes time and experience, it's really a complicated forum  Grin
Is not like him, LoyceV, lovesmayfamilis and others hate them, they just don't like rule breakers while some beginners are reading rules and trying to understand the forum system, some are just don't care about that rather making shit post even to the point of plagiarising or making Ai generated posts while others just come to spam the forum or find means to scam. Even after they might even give warning/pardon.
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October 08, 2023, 11:03:46 AM
On the one hand, sometimes I see people like you giving negative tags as if you really hate beginners
No!!!

All right, so you haven't been here long and I didn't realize it's only been since June based on your rank (I just looked).  Yes, it does take a while to figure out what's what here, but I do not hate new members because they're new.  I don't think I've ever said that, though I'm almost certain that I've said that newbies are the source of most of the post quality issues and similar sentiments--and I still stand by that, but I judge members on their contributions, not their rank. 

My reaction to your post (asking if you'd read the OP of this thread) was because it seemed like you hadn't read it.  If there was a misunderstanding, my bad and no hard feelings.  And look, don't get offended at shit like that or else you're going to hate being here.  If you grow a thick skin, make yourself known, make interesting/productive posts, and generally gain a reputation on the forum over time, people are going to look at you like the Legendary members that get called "sir".  It's just silly IMO, but that's the way it is.  But good on you for trying to call me out for bad....thoughts.  In a year or two, you'll be the next JollyGood!

That last part's a joke, JG.
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
October 08, 2023, 10:44:40 AM
As far as I know, we are not allowed to ask for merit, but as you said, some members ask for their posts to be reviewed, is that another way to ask for merits?
Lol....did you read the beginning of this thread where I made the offer?  It's bad etiquette to straight-up ask another member to give them merits without pointing them to a post that would be merit-worthy, but there have been merit giveaway threads similar to mine here ever since 2018 when the merit system was unleashed upon an unsuspecting and chaotic forum.  I think nearly all of those have ended since they basically became magnets for shitposters, but it's absolutely OK to ask for merits when someone invites you to (as I'm doing in this thread).


Of course I've read it. And this is the first time I came across this thread. This forum has many mechanisms and rules so it is increasingly complicated for me to understand. On the one hand, sometimes I see people like you giving negative tags as if you really hate beginners, but on the other hand you help beginners. In my opinion, studying this forum is not enough if I just read the rules, but it takes time and experience, it's really a complicated forum  Grin
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