Topic: RETALIATORY VINDICTIVE TRUST ABUSE by DT (Read 1987 times)

Why the bump? Lauda isn't DT anymore, not for a couple of weeks now. The title and relevance of this topic has become outdated.
If you're hoping a (by consensus) untrustworthy member of this forum will remove their inaccurate and irrelevant feedback against you, then I wouldn't hold you breath.
Most reputable have been negged by scammers and liars with inaccurate feedback, usually in retaliation, it's nothing to worry about.

Reading people's minds is more Techy's thing.  

I did make a post to OGNasty about Lauda during a time he wanted to sponsor my site but he said later he never really trusted me, and the quotes he posted were all taken out of context as per his M.O.


If you want to continue whistle blowing on these scammers and liars, more power to you.  Everything is recorded and although it may take time, the blockchain has all the evidence.  I will support action against scammers.

Fair enough. Don't try to spin theymos didnt want the scammer out though anyway.

If people wish to ignore irrefutable evidence of scammers infesting dt and leveraging their positions to scam with impunity and silence whistleblowing that is on them not me.

Lauda asked to be removed.   That's all I stated, and after that request, it doesn't really matter who backed the request, does it?

What happened to you vod to take up sides with scammers like lauda?

Lauda asked to be removed.   This is why people ignore you.  

Well theymos did ask 100 plus people to exclude you right?

This is a proven lie. It was done because I had requested it. Quoted for reference.

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being the voice of reason these days is surprising, but a nice twist.

don't stress out about Lauda and his alts/cronies...

Bump

Just ~Lauda and fuck off if you don't agree with it.

There are no statements because it did not happen outside of the private engagement between theymos and me.

Unlike Lauda, I have never had any credible accusations of being untrustworthy with the funds of others made against me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-minerjones-blazed-missing-escrow-funds-4895354

Unlike Lauda, I have never had any credible accusations of being untrustworthy with the funds of others made against me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-minerjones-blazed-missing-escrow-funds-4895354

If anyone has any evidence Lauda was blacklisted by their own request I would love to see it. I haven't seen any.

If you want more negatives, or if you prefer 1 rating per instance then I am willing to comply. Every single time I see an outright defamatory lie from you now, I will document it. Thanks.

If the intention is not to lie, and it gets pointed out to you, what does a human do then? Apologise and withdraw it. What did mr. TECSHARE do? Continue attacking me because I pointed out his lie, therefore it is malicious and an intentional attack.

There is nothing I can do. It's TECSHARE's call. But if this was me then I would have a seat with you, possibly in private and would like to figure out the problem between us instead of threating each others with red tag. Everyone of us knows believes that Lauda and TECSHARE are trusted with wealth.

If the intention is not to lie, and it gets pointed out to you, what does a human do then? Apologise and withdraw it. What did mr. TECSHARE do? Continue attacking me because I pointed out his lie, therefore it is malicious and an intentional attack.

I am not sure if TECSHARE's intention was to lie or he is not properly informed but I can assure that I have seen somewhere that Lauda requested her to be excluded from DT1.

Just because you don't like my criticism and you perceive it as an attack doesn't justify you using the trust system this way. It couldn't possibly be made any more clear that you are leaving these ratings as punishment for criticizing your behavior.

This is a proven lie. It was done because I had requested it. Quoted for reference.

Just because you don't like my criticism and you perceive it as an attack doesn't justify you using the trust system this way. It couldn't possibly be made any more clear that you are leaving these ratings as punishment for criticizing your behavior.

There are no statements because it did not happen outside of the private engagement between theymos and me. This is the only truth:

mr. TECSHARE is a known liar, and once his defamatory attacks get dealt with he cries "silence of criticism". Quite unfortunate that trustworthy members fall for this gig.

LOL is this real   Can you show me more specific examples or evidence? I have never heard of this before, at least the amount of time I have been active on this forum, although there are times when I am absent, so I may not know. Can you quote any statements about it?

This is a proven lie. It was done because I had requested it. Quoted for reference.

There is a long history of Lauda abusing the trust systems here to the point of Theymos blacklisting them from DT1. You know this, you are simply equivocating to justify inaction.

There is a long history of Lauda abusing the trust systems here to the point of Theymos blacklisting them from DT1.

I'm not going to exclude Lauda from my trust list unless these kinds of feedbacks get out of hand, and even then an exclusion from me wouldn't do much of anything.

I took a look at OP's trust page, and this looks like another example of leaving a neg for what essentially comes down to a difference of opinion or interpretation of facts.

OP removed his negative trust from FortuneJack, which renders the "trust abuse" portion of Lauda's negative trust no longer relevant. They are a decent quality poster and don't deserve to have this negative.

I get your point, and that probably is one reason why Lauda hasn't been excluded from people's trust lists more than has already happened. 

I took a look at OP's trust page, and this looks like another example of leaving a neg for what essentially comes down to a difference of opinion or interpretation of facts.  I don't think anybody is at risk of anything based on what OP wrote in the reference thread, and I think neutral observers would probably agree with that.  So this is another one of Lauda's feedbacks I don't agree with--but I can't do anything about it that wouldn't be all out of proportion to the situation.  I'm not going to exclude Lauda from my trust list unless these kinds of feedbacks get out of hand, and even then an exclusion from me wouldn't do much of anything.

And I'm not into countering feedbacks.  It would be nice if more DT members weighed in on this.

I think most of the DT do not want to distrust Lauda is because they think distrusting her will allow a lot of scammers to get their account becoming a regular account since Lauda has thousands of tags left for scammers. There are some good tags but that does not mean Lauda will keep doing the wrong things and for the sake of those good tags you all will keep trusting her?

I don't want to derail the current topic; but now since you have questioned me on this topic; let me make my stand clear. No human can claim to be objective, value-neutrality is an illusion and I very much agree with Paul Feyerabend (Epistemological Anarchism) and Max Weber on this issue. So to claim that rules devised will be objective would be a misnomer IMO, because to have objective assessments we need to use our subjective faculties.

To claim that my current situation should push me to join any such venture would again be an opportunist assumption; I would have gladly partaken in such a venture even if I wasn't red trusted; had I believed that such a step will lead to objectivity.

I have always been clear with my intentions on this forum; even if the current situation continues to be so and none other deem it worthwhile to respond on this situation, I would still not be willing to claim objectivity.

Even in my posts here I have maintained a sense of subjectivity and to compensate have given them the benefit of doubt within my margin of error (now see even that's subjective).


P.S. I do respect you for trying to start something better; but let's not turn vindictive for the sake of countering vindictiveness.



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Then it is the collective failure of BTCTalk DT members that they continue to accommodate Trust system Abusers within their ranks and if theymos has acknowledged the failure of the system implicitly, then it is better to do away with it altogether.

Bhai

Infact even an experienced campaign handler like you will probably refuse admission on basis of DT Red trust.

Several times Lauda asked them to ~Lauda them if anyone do not agree with their feedback and it's pretty simple to do for anyone. If you see anyone is not using the trust system in an appropriate manner then just distrust them.

It wud hv been better had u commented from your main account. Obviously you are scared or have some sinister motive,

I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

One would assume you would be for objective standards for leaving negative ratings given your current circumstance, but apparently not.

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Some DT members behave such a way that it seems they feel satisfaction red painting an account. It's better to raise voice under an alt account.

@TECSHARE and @hacker1001101001
Thanks for the concern, although I am very much in favour of objective standards, but I guess it wud derail the topic at hand.
 


It wud hv been better had u commented from your main account. Obviously you are scared or have some sinister motive, also I had a curated trust list prior to being red trusted, so it's not like Lauda isn't in my Trust List NOW.



P.S. Shud I be surprised at the wariness shown by other DTs to not infuriate the so very VINDICTIVE Abuser    

It wud hv been better had u commented from your main account. Obviously you are scared or have some sinister motive

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You are to be blamed too! I am sure Lauda is not in your trust list now? When everyone of you will have this end then you will realize who to add and who not to add in your trust list.
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Welcome to the club though.

Lauda's judgement is Trusted by:
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2. Soros Shorts (Trust: neutral) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. EpicFail (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. qwk (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 1441 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. BitcoinEXpress (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. DiamondCardz (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (89 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. philipma1957 (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. subSTRATA (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (43 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. KWH (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. monkeynuts (Trust: +31 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (12) 258 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Gimpeline (Trust: neutral) (7 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Operatr (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. jimhsu (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. TMAN (Trust: +28 / =0 / -2) (DT1! (15) 1301 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. vizique (Trust: +35 / =0 / -0) (494 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. yogg (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 1191 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. TheQuin (Trust: neutral) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. leancuisine (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. klaaas (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Bitze (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. hybridsole (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (DT1! ( 266 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. hedgy73 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (69 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. scutzi128 (Trust: neutral) (173 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 277 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1 (-1) 854 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. iluvpie60 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. gysca (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1434 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. NeuroticFish (Trust: neutral) (469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. whywefight (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. owlcatz (Trust: +44 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (22) 284 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. JohnUser (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (210 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. sapta (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 180 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. BitcoinPenny (Trust: +44 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 665 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. txbtc Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. Zepher (Trust: +31 / =5 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. P4ndoraBox7 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. Patatas (Trust: neutral) (111 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. Limx Dev (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (321 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. ezeminer (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. Vadi2323 (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. mocacinno (Trust: neutral) (1076 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. CanadaBits (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. Miyslovenic (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. kken01 (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. Removed bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (723 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. The Pharmacist (Trust: +25 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (28) 2411 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. Funny (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. PrivacyLock (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. vCardVideo (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. tennozer (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. asu (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. anakinisme Banned! (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. Joel_Jantsen (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (237 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. Arpetuos (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. mexxer-3 was chosen (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. condoras (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (155 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. Slow death (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (262 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. lienfaye (Trust: neutral) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. Gunthar (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. bias (Trust: neutral) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. cInfiniteBtcLetsShare Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. Hhampuz (Trust: +70 / =2 / -0) (1598 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. blurryeyed (Trust: +1 / =5 / -0) (17 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
64. finaleshot2016 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 666 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
65. jenia1 (Trust: neutral) (17 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
66. crwth (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 538 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
67. webtricks (Trust: neutral) (569 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. Henkkaa (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
69. Polar91 (Trust: neutral) (271 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
70. sud (Trust: neutral) (51 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
71. nullius (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (1318 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
72. Aerys2 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
73. khaled0111 (Trust: neutral) (677 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
74. Squishy01 (Trust: neutral) (16 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
75. roycilik (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (2) 1292 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
76. GDragon (Trust: neutral) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. yazher (Trust: neutral) (397 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
78. NEW allahabadi (Trust: awaiting update) (40 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
79. Gambit_fr (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
80. tweetbit (Trust: neutral) (12 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
81. Silent26 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (224 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
82. Trofo (Trust: neutral) (382 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
83. amishmanish (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (374 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
84. BeEvil Banned! (Trust: neutral) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
85. icopress (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (21 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
86. Airtube (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
87. BitCryptex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1235 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
88. sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 642 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
89. theyoungmillionaire (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (1011 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
90. sufferer123 (Trust: neutral) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
91. AleksandrKosov (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
92. catur_072 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
93. NEW GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (379 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
94. Maus0728 (Trust: neutral) (256 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
95. pandukelana2712 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -3) (969 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
96. gospodin (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (0) 613 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
97. Heisenberg_Hunter (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (809 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
98. asche (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! ( 957 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
99. cabalism13 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 815 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
100. anonymousminer (Trust: +32 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (7) 634 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
101. nakamura12 (Trust: neutral) (187 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
102. lehuyaxib1 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
103. NEW Coolcryptovator (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
104. TalkStar (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 522 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
105. Strufmbae (Trust: neutral) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
106. Luana Trade Banned! (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -8) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
107. pirashki (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
108. ZeusTrade Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
109. Little Mouse (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (144 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
110. ZeusRecife Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
111. TradeRafael (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
112. RafaelCrypto (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
113. Debonaire217 (Trust: neutral) (259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
114. twiki (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
115. elmanchez (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (48 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
116. Charlie Lee Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
117. mubashar002 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
118. ColumbiaCrypto (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
119. ZeusContent (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
120. braga.ele (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
121. skillscreating (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

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It is not legitimate to keep deleting and reposting negative ratings to put the system back into "this guy just turned scammer!" mode. People who do that shouldn't be trusted.