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Quote from: charles2k on January 16, 2017, 07:44:38 AM

Compatible Intel Broadwell-U CPU list (but BGA and soldering...):
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Mobile_Celeron_Dual-Core/3215U.html

the best cpu to put in it would be this one.

http://ark.intel.com/products/85213/Intel-Core-i5-5300U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz

this is stock

http://ark.intel.com/products/84810/Intel-Celeron-Processor-3215U-2M-Cache-1_70-GHz

but rework could kill the mobo so it is not worth the risk.

if the company (pandaminer) sticks around maybe they will offer one with a better cpu

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Compatible Intel Broadwell-U CPU list (but BGA and soldering...):
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Mobile_Celeron_Dual-Core/3215U.html

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 11:53:58 PM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 10:59:23 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

Shows Starminer GPU switch. Not sure if they made their own board as they're a very tiny company that can barely source more than 30 units at once. Very limited info when googling starminer GPU switch.

well small yes, but I think they made more like 250 to 500 pieces. they could have an in with a board maker. so far i can say it really appears to be decent gear.

yeah an i5 cpu vs the celeron would be a big improvement but one cpu is 280 the other 107.

a max of 1 8gb stick of ram is okay

Cheaper used mobile Broadwell CPUs you can buy on ebay/aliexpress etc. Or extract from an old notebook.
And then give it to someone who has skill with replacing BGA CPUs (but is risky)

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Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 10:59:23 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

Shows Starminer GPU switch. Not sure if they made their own board as they're a very tiny company that can barely source more than 30 units at once. Very limited info when googling starminer GPU switch.

well small yes, but I think they made more like 250 to 500 pieces. they could have an in with a board maker. so far i can say it really appears to be decent gear.

yeah an i5 cpu vs the celeron would be a big improvement but one cpu is 280 the other 107.

a max of 1 8gb stick of ram is okay

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

Shows Starminer GPU switch. Not sure if they made their own board as they're a very tiny company that can barely source more than 30 units at once. Very limited info when googling starminer GPU switch.

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Quote from: citronick on January 15, 2017, 03:04:32 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

Its printed on the main board "Starminer GPU Switch v1.3"

Anybody knows what is a "GPU switch" ?

one single board, with onboard compute processor with custom PCI bus integrated into switched design?

looking at the pictures, upgrading the MXM module is possible.

The question on the MXM modules is where will you be able to get them... So AMD releases the next generation of GPU's, will Pandaminer be selling those so you can upgrade or does anyone know of a supplier? Just looking around for these current cards I haven't seen a place to buy them so it makes me wonder how possible an upgrade will be... Or if a card fails, where to find a replacement.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 15, 2017, 10:20:38 AM

Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

Its printed on the main board "Starminer GPU Switch v1.3"

Anybody knows what is a "GPU switch" ?

one single board, with onboard compute processor with custom PCI bus integrated into switched design?

looking at the pictures, upgrading the MXM module is possible.

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Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

The board is their board as far as I can tell you can not source the board.

I will do a full teardown on Monday or Tuesday. parts are due on monday but amazon in their infinite wisdom used the post office to ship them and tomorrow is a Fed Holiday so I think it gets to me on tues.

I hope to have quiet fans soon.

I hope to confirm the cpu is soldered and not upgradeable or custom socket and can be removed. Most likely the cpu is soldered.

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Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

Brand? they make their own. Bios is AM Megatrends.

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Quote from: yun9999 on January 15, 2017, 03:22:05 AM

Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

Motherboard

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Any luck on getting picture of the Motherboard to see part # or what brand they are using?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 14, 2017, 05:46:33 PM

no for a few reasons there are 9 fans the controller you list does 4 fans

you would need 3 of them.

I also need to check how much power you can use with your controller.

Right now having used ones like the kingwin I know they can not do well with beefy fans. the deltas in the pandaminer can do .8 amps each.

Maybe The six channel model can work

http://www.kingwin.com/fpx-006/

it can do 20 watts fans

the fpx 001 can only do an 8 watt fan so it is not good.

http://www.kingwin.com/cooling/fan-controllers/fpx-001-2/

This probably will work:

http://a.co/7aRhQYR

5 channels, so only 2 is needed. 30W per channel - good enough

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Quote from: ps_jb on January 14, 2017, 05:19:53 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 14, 2017, 05:06:29 PM

I am 90% sure manual control of fan speed can be done with a few parts from amazon

one of these
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltage-Regulator-Converter-1-2-36V/dp/B00C4QVTNU/ref=sr_1_3?

and some of these

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CDKSV3C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?

Can it be controller with this - http://a.co/4YaLbiD?

So no need in controllers and cables

no for a few reasons there are 9 fans the controller you list does 4 fans

you would need 3 of them.

I also need to check how much power you can use with your controller.

Right now having used ones like the kingwin I know they can not do well with beefy fans. the deltas in the pandaminer can do .8 amps each.

Maybe The six channel model can work

http://www.kingwin.com/fpx-006/

it can do 20 watts fans

the fpx 001 can only do an 8 watt fan so it is not good.

http://www.kingwin.com/cooling/fan-controllers/fpx-001-2/

the fpx 005 specs as 8 watt fans no good.

http://www.kingwin.com/fpx-005/

you would need a pair of these

https://www.amazon.com/KingWin-Channel-Multi-Fan-Controller-FPX-006/dp/B01AG8WKQW/ref=sr_1_1?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 14, 2017, 05:06:29 PM

I am 90% sure manual control of fan speed can be done with a few parts from amazon

one of these
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltage-Regulator-Converter-1-2-36V/dp/B00C4QVTNU/ref=sr_1_3?

and some of these

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CDKSV3C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?

Can it be controller with this - http://a.co/4YaLbiD?

So no need in controllers and cables

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I am 90% sure manual control of fan speed can be done with a few parts from amazon

one of these
https://www.amazon.com/DROK-Voltage-Regulator-Converter-1-2-36V/dp/B00C4QVTNU/ref=sr_1_3?

and some of these

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CDKSV3C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?

there are two fan headers in the case.

below I can use a brick and the controller.

when I get more 3 pin cables I will test to see how this works.

I suspect fans can be lowered a lot and make this a very small home miner.

If I can bypass headers on the mobo you can feed that controller from your psu.

If I have to use the fan headers it would not be as clean.

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 14, 2017, 04:44:55 PM

here is a photo or three
see controller it measures 8.47 volts note the two probes.

To the left is a box, it has a pot with a screw. volts in are 13.18 I can drop to 5 volts via the pot

now it is 8.22 volts

i am using an external brick on the left it is 91% eff. the controller is 97% eff. I do not know if the mobo will say fuck you if you leave the two 3 pin headers empty. which is why I ordered enough cables to test this with the brick and with the headers

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Huh?

Quote from: citronick on January 11, 2017, 09:39:09 PM

Quote from: Eliovp on January 11, 2017, 07:41:02 PM

Here's a new one

2200+ sol with peaks up to 2260 at 1050-1070 watt (swings a bit).

Greetings!

Amazing Eliovp!

This looks like optiminer - currently ahead of Claymore v10.

Have you tried claymore v11?

As said above, not available, i did try 10, max i got was 235 per GPU.. Big difference Wink

Greetings!

Edit: A friend of mine talked to AMD and can confirm that they will stick with the mxm design for at least 3-5 years, this will also include the upcoming vega cards.

So in other words, the panda is upgradable! Woop!

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Quote from: citronick on January 11, 2017, 09:39:09 PM

Quote from: Eliovp on January 11, 2017, 07:41:02 PM

Here's a new one

2200+ sol with peaks up to 2260 at 1050-1070 watt (swings a bit).

Greetings!

Amazing Eliovp!

This looks like optiminer - currently ahead of Claymore v10.

Have you tried claymore v11?

Claymore V11 for linux not yet relase.

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Quote from: Eliovp on January 11, 2017, 07:41:02 PM

Here's a new one

2200+ sol with peaks up to 2260 at 1050-1070 watt (swings a bit).

Greetings!

Amazing Eliovp!

This looks like optiminer - currently ahead of Claymore v10.

Have you tried claymore v11?

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Huh?

Here's a new one

2200+ sol with peaks up to 2260 at 1050-1070 watt (swings a bit).

Greetings!

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Quote from: Eliovp on January 11, 2017, 02:59:53 PM

Quote from: citronick on January 11, 2017, 01:44:02 PM

Quote from: slim87 on January 11, 2017, 12:11:20 PM

I just installed a fresh Windows 10 2016 LTSB Enterprise with my own key. Copied, the miner binariese back to the panda miner. Everything is working great now since 7 days. So no worry to reinstall the machine it will work again without any special modification Cheesy

Now its time to switch to the linux version and see what I can do there with it Wink

By the way, I'm mining monero and got a stable hashrate from 5970 h/s.

sgminer can go higher than 6khs but that on Linux....

6400 @ 880 watt stable as a rock over here..

Waiting patiently for a linux holding coin for you.

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