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hero member
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December 17, 2024, 06:37:20 AM
#44
Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino.
I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.
Yeah, by following the procedure for withdrawal of the bonus the gambler gets to withdraw the bonus given by the casino except he didn't follow correctly. On the other hand, if I get to receive a bonus and learning about the rules to be able to withdraw, the simple thing I do if I can't follow through to fulfil the conditions is just to ignore the bonus allowing it to expire without hard feelings than nagging about it.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 06:33:33 AM
#43
Since the past I have rarely chased such bonuses since I learned how bonuses work which ultimately wastes time and ends in vain.
In any casino, even on local casino sites, I very rarely and almost never use deposit bonuses or anything and prefer to focus on my main goal of making a deposit and betting on the games I want to play. It's much better than having to chase small amounts that interfere with my time to have fun.
Except chasing event bonuses or weekly bonuses, maybe that's much better.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 06:05:33 AM
#42
Yes, I also started to be wary and attentive to free spins a long time ago. To be honest, this is the thing that will definitely not make me make a deposit, because it does not motivate me. I just fell for it once and I do not want to go through wager after wager that is impossible to win back. Of course, I understand that the casino is also not interested in giving all users money, but in order to attract a user, this looks good. Probably, it was just that multi-accountants began to abuse this, who used this bonus many times and withdrew the profit, and then did not appear. In general, now this is the norm for many casinos.
There is no free in this world, even when casinos give free spins and bonuses to their users, it will still benefit them because often every time free spins are given there will be terms and conditions that are also a applicable,  besides that with bonuses and free spins given usually only to attract new players, even they offer the opportunity to play without financial risk, however on the other hand, there is a trap that allows each player to eventually must to deposit funds and play with a certain amount to get free spins or withdraw the winning balance of the free spins, in my opinion, as gamblers we should still think rationally if every something that is free is usually something that allows us to must to pay eventually Grin.
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December 17, 2024, 06:00:52 AM
#41
I don't think I have big interest with bonuses as I am not a big gambler who can use big money to gamble. I know that the bonus will tempt me to deposit more money and fills the requirement but I don't want to try it. The last time I try makes me lose all of my deposit so I don't want to get the same experienced.

Getting the bonus will makes us happy but we must consider about the requirement behind that bonus. You must be wise if you want to takes the bonus and not spends too big money.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 05:13:45 AM
#40
Yes, I also started to be wary and attentive to free spins a long time ago. To be honest, this is the thing that will definitely not make me make a deposit, because it does not motivate me. I just fell for it once and I do not want to go through wager after wager that is impossible to win back. Of course, I understand that the casino is also not interested in giving all users money, but in order to attract a user, this looks good. Probably, it was just that multi-accountants began to abuse this, who used this bonus many times and withdrew the profit, and then did not appear. In general, now this is the norm for many casinos.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 04:54:30 AM
#39
Yes, you are right because I also not have a big intention with the bonuses and only want to use a normal things. Bonus can be interesting to get but we must make sure that we know how the rules works so we don't think that the casino trick us because we don't know anything.

But we know gamblers can be greedy to chase the bonus and will do anything to get their money. They will not thinks that the requirements will be too high for them but they will trying to get it by keep playing.
In most cases, the requirements are indeed quite high to receive a bonus. The most problematic thing is to withdraw money. Usually, this requires making a deposit, and then playing back some time and wagering. This brings quite a lot of inconvenience to the player. It is better to play only with your own funds and not chase bonuses that are very attractive at first glance.
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December 17, 2024, 04:27:24 AM
#38
They are making these promotions so they could make more money. All they want is to attract players into playing. Otherwise what’s the point? They would be giving away free money. Players should never forget that casinos ain’t no charities. Running a casino is a serious business. Occasionally they might make giveaways but even then, their real intention is still to attract players.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 04:13:56 AM
#37
You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

If casino give limited or decreased bonus and force to wager it only on slots, and moreover on specific slots, then this is indeed ridiculous, unfair and looks like scam. But I would like to focus on 60x wagering. That is true a lot, but I have seen when casino ask to wager bonus amount 10x, 20x, and people call that impossible to do. What I think is that people should simply not rush and play all-in all the time. When casino ask to wager bonus amount, they usually dont give terms limitation (there are some, but that could be done in week or two). They only want gambler to play longer, to spend time, and not drop by and leave in few minutes.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 04:06:22 AM
#36
Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?
Correct.
If we read the requirements more attentively, we can find all these restrictions, but i don`t want to search it. I want to get easy terms like - i deposit $100, get $10 free spins, everything i`ve got - i can withdraw any moment.
I can`t say that i don`t use such casinos, but i stopped hunting bonuses and ignore games, i don`t interest in. If i got free spins - i could spend it and, may be, play several games for money. Now i don`t care how many free spins i have - i willn`t spent even penny for such games.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 03:58:40 AM
#35
I dont get why people complain over bonuses and competitions. No one forces anyone to participate or take them. Just pass and gamble how you like. Casino or any other business is not a charity. Their goal is to earn, but not to give something for free. Consider bonus as a challenge for those who are bored with regular gambling.
Everyone should know that gambling sites are doing no promotions for no reason than to look for customers to enjoy gambling on their site and lose more money to them (the gambling site). I think this is no-brainer but some people still do not understand.

In fact, bonuses were better, bigger and easier to get in past. But army of bonus hunters, milked industry so hard, that casinos have to make bonuses more challenging today. That is why instead of complaining how ridiculous bonuses are, say thank you to bonus hunters.
There are still some gambling sites that give bonus, but I noticed it is no more common on bitcoin and other crypto gambling sites as it was in 3 or more years ago, especially as those sites giving the bonuses become older and reputed. As more people are using them, they have the traffic already and decided to limit the promotional offers.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 03:23:54 AM
#34
I dont get why people complain over bonuses and competitions. No one forces anyone to participate or take them. Just pass and gamble how you like. Casino or any other business is not a charity. Their goal is to earn, but not to give something for free. Consider bonus as a challenge for those who are bored with regular gambling.

In fact, bonuses were better, bigger and easier to get in past. But army of bonus hunters, milked industry so hard, that casinos have to make bonuses more challenging today. That is why instead of complaining how ridiculous bonuses are, say thank you to bonus hunters.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 02:51:13 AM
#33
Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

If we asked in this thread how many people can meet these bonus requirements, we would see that perhaps the number of people would not exceed 10. In my opinion, many casinos when they place these high requirements are sending the following message: "we are giving you a bonus because if we didn't place them you wouldn't use the casino, but you won't be able to withdraw this bonus". The casinos know very well that the few people who manage to profit from the casinos, take the money they won and continue playing. So even if the casinos offered $5 in spins with no requirements, most people would play with the $5 and lose everything.
hero member
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December 17, 2024, 02:29:44 AM
#32
That is why I usually ignore bonuses. I'm not clear if in the crypto world the terms are more difficult to meet than in fiat rooms, although from cases I've seen on the forum, like that X60 wagering requirements that the OP cites I'd say yes. Normally the bonuses give the illusion of giving you an advantage but end up giving more profit to the house, one way or another.
Actually bonuses are good tool in the hands of the casinos, most especially it helps them to give the gambler imaginary money as bonuses then force them to wager the bonus+balance and if luck is on your side you win against the house neet up with the X wager conditions, then you can withdraw, I avoid any bonus conditions that is above 1x because at that point if anything above that 1x-5x wagering requirements it out of my bound I avoid them. In simple terms, bonuses are traps to get the player down on the casino the gives you the bonus you have to spend it on the house, slot players understand this more because their are always chasing the bonuses.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 01:52:29 AM
#31
Normal wagering requirement for such a bonus is between 30x-40x, so if you find bigger wagering requirement, better to avoid it and I can agree that it is ridiculous wagering requirement. While other requirement such as limited slot games which contribute towards wagering requirement is normal, non-slot games may contribute but with less percentage (under 10%). This is simply because bonuses are designed not to make players get more chance to make profit, it gives some more balance only but the bigger balance we get from the bonus means that the higher amount we need to wager in order to unlock withdrawal.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 01:39:04 AM
#30
Its not a mistery that in some cases you must avoid bonus in casinos.
It's not matter of "illusion" or something else. You must choose your bonus according your gambling style. You must not change it.
Of course they are not giving free money. Planning how to fullful requirements and optimizing outcome it should be also an important step if you want achieve the maximum from the free chance.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 12:43:11 AM
#29
That is why I usually ignore bonuses. I'm not clear if in the crypto world the terms are more difficult to meet than in fiat rooms, although from cases I've seen on the forum, like that X60 wagering requirements that the OP cites I'd say yes. Normally the bonuses give the illusion of giving you an advantage but end up giving more profit to the house, one way or another.
legendary
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December 17, 2024, 12:32:52 AM
#28
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Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

Well, some casinos have really ridiculous bonus terms... I think it's not the issue in rollover (at least not for me), but it's funny when they have limits on max win, max withdrawal, just specific slots available for playing, asking for an extra deposit before we can withdraw. As I remember bonuses before were simple, they give us bonus money we have to play & wager and that's it, fair and square. Now some casinos are using tricks and I feel like we have to risk a lot more and if we get lucky (and that doesn't always happen in slots) we will not get the prizes.

So, it's definitely important to read the ToS before deciding to play with bonus...
legendary
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December 16, 2024, 11:47:25 PM
#27
Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino.
I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.
Well, that's the thing. When the terms for something as simple as free spins are so convoluted like having to do 60x to withdraw some pennies, why should I trust them with a type of bonus that could keep my money bound to a wagering requitement that may be equally ridiculous?

When things aren't kept simple I'll either have to spend more time reading rules than playing or just avoid these shady promos altogether. I don't know why do many casinos these days and she follow the latter.
I understand the frustration that you are pointing out but this is how it has worked for a long time now. The freebies aren't meant to get out, they want to stay inside the online casino and be used to gamble more. I always think of the freebies as fake money, you won't be able to withdraw it but you can play with it. With that kind of idea, I am avoiding the frustration that I will receive even if it wins or loses because I know there's a wagering requirement glued into it even if I win like x10 of the amount that was given which I doubt could happen.
It's our choice if we don't want it or not, it's just there as an invitational promotion and not really as a charity that we can withdraw once we get it.
hero member
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December 16, 2024, 11:37:02 PM
#26
So it seems that there were already topics about the tricks when withdrawing bonuses in which this was discussed. If you are not an avid player, then the bonus will not bring you any benefit, so you do not need to use it. An avid player would have played with or without a bonus anyway. The bonus may not benefit him either, but it won't hurt either. The bonus can be perceived as a marketing campaign to attract new players, and not as a gift. There are too many difficult conditions inside such a gift.
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December 16, 2024, 11:22:42 PM
#25
I think the bonus would be higher if some strings were attached to it, such as the amount of wagers you need to fulfill to get the best results for their promo. I don’t think it is good, but it’s just their way of giving back to members.
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