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Quote from: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 11:27:32 AM

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

What I can tell you is to avoid casinos which don't have provably fair feature and to avoid games from third party services (mainly slot machines) which you are doubtful about the legitimacy of the provider. Important to notice in this case I'm not talking about the casino platform you are playing, but the company which provides them the games. A same company provides games to a plethora of online casinos.

In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results.

Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.

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Quote from: _act_ on April 09, 2023, 04:36:25 PM

Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before?

Yes I used livecasino and I think they are sister company of Sportsbet, it works very good for casinos games but they dont have any sports betting like Sportsbet.
They both have very similar design with small changes and different colors, but it is almost the same thing and reputation should be good for both of them.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 09, 2023, 01:12:19 PM

It always felt like it was rigged when you lost it all after playing Martingale with your last money. 10 to 20 in a losing streak, it must really be rigged but heck it happens many times already. It applies to most luck base games. One way to check its hash and if anything doesn't check out, then the game is rigged.

But I guess the casino has more ways to prevent itself from getting caught. And all you got to do is just move on.

Exactly, this was what I have in mind, because I feel like these is no way one can figure out if a casino is cheating or not because losing is also part of the game, you can be having a really bad day when gambling and you lose all your money, even if you complain or accuse this casino to cheating there is no way to prove it.

Luck based games can be rigged as well since casinos are already programmed to make players lose more and win less, this is not a game between player A and player B, this is you against the casino.

I believe there is nothing to do here than try different types of online casinos and choose the one that you prefer the most or works better for you.

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verify always license and any kind of regulation...
I believe that the casinos that offer "provably fair" games are the only ones that can guarantee a certain reputation.
General speaking, it is not at all easy to understand if a casino is a scam without following a whole series of tracks.
the first of all is related to reviews. you have to read them carefully to understand what problems they have had and if they are still the same.
then you have to pay attention to their promotions because if they offer something "too convenient" it is definitely a scam Wink

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I don't play slots a lot. When I want to gamble at an online casino, I usually choose games that have a provably fair random number generator, so I can be sure that the casino is not cheating me. This means that the game is protected against cheating and the results can be verified by anyone, at any time. In addition, I like sports betting. It gives me a different kind of thrill, and I enjoy doing research on the teams and players before placing my bets. As with any form of gambling, there is always a risk of encountering rigged games or fraudulent practices. However, sports betting has the advantage of being based on actual events and not solely on chance. This means that the outcome is not determined by a machine or a computer algorithm, but rather by the performance of the players or teams involved. Of course, there is always some risk involved in betting, but I find that it's more manageable with sports than with other types of gambling. Plus, I can use my knowledge and analysis to increase my chances of winning.

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Mostly we think of this when we are on a losing streak or when others accuse casinos of having losing streaks, but it is still possible. Detecting it is difficult. I haven't really heard that the casino rigged some games that were very popular, or I haven't heard it, but the only thing we can do is gather other users to see if they experienced the same thing as you and try to imitate it again if you've seen that the game is rigged. It is really difficult to accuse if there is no proof, so I could say that we have nothing to do with it if we don't have proof you should stay away from that casino and find another legit or popular casino.

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Quote from: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 11:27:32 AM

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

There is no sure way to know that a casino you just started using is rigged, or a casino that you have been using will not suddenly decide one day to rig their games.

You just have to follow reviews of a casino before you choose to play on them and also still follow up recent reviews when you are playing on them to know of any recent development or reviews that suggests rigging.

One review is not enough to conclude that a casino is rigged, a couple of concrete reviews that a casino has rigged their games should be enough for you to find another casino to play with.

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Make sure you're gamble on reputable casino and have provably fair system.

If they have provably fair system, you can verify all of your bets. If you've verify all of your bets and the result is lost 20 times in a row, you think it's unfair and the game is rigged, you can report to the casino and ask them about it.

If their response doesn't make you satisfied, you can create a scam accusation thread.

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Quote from: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 11:27:32 AM

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Casino games are meant to be fun for you and business for the casinos. When they are developing a software they are making sure it is bringing them profit otherwise you and them both are gambling and in business no one gamble.

Most of the games are close source so there are no such way to check the source and understand the code. When you are playing in a casino you are just trusting them.

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You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.

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This type of thing will only happen if the casino you are playing on.... has no third party slots. It can happen if the casino has their own in-house games, but they have to be stupid to configure those games on a 100% house edge. Roll Eyes

I never place huge starting bets on a new casino, because I always test their RTP first ...with $0.10 and $0.20 bets. The third party slot providers set the RTP for the casino, so the casino cannot cheat with their games. Grin

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I have read about how some organizations that approve games for online casinos to make sure that the games are fair and completely transparent, like iTech Labs and eCOGRA, I don't know if any online casinos are using this companies to appear clean and trustable for their customers, since such companies exist it shows that some online gambling games are lacking fairness and transparency. Gamblers need to do the work themselves and do research on a casino very well before becoming a casino customer.

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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Only the dumb and greedy casino owners would make a game totally rigged, so that the gambler will lose 20 times in a row.
Smart casino owners make the games rigged in a way that allows the gamblers to win small in the beginning, so that they get addicted.
After they start betting big amounts, the rigged games start working and they lose big amounts. Can someone prove that the games are rigged? I don't know. I never really trusted in the "probably fair" concept. I always gamble for fun and not with the intention of making money.
I don't gamble big amounts, because I know that I'm going to lose them in one way or another.

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Quote from: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 11:27:32 AM

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

You don't. In most cases of rigged games, you usually find out it's rigged a period after the rigged games happen, and it depends as well depending on the amount of notice it has. It may take days if a LOT of people took note, or months to years if there were only a few (and by then it'd almost be forgotten or dropped by those who noticed it in the first place). It's why in the first place you'd choose to play on reputable casinos, and even if you do play on new ones, you wouldn't try to spend that much until at least enough time was given to guarantee that the casino isn't trying to run away with your money. Ofc this doesn't stop old casinos from going awol all of a sudden, but hey, nothing we can do there really.

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Quote from: rodskee on April 09, 2023, 09:07:38 PM

Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.

What happens is that it is very difficult to determine when they are rigging a game, it is difficult for us as players to prove it, I have always trusted Provably Fair,for me a game is rigged on Machines when it is not active,now,a game is rigged as soon as Sports is another matter, it is something that Should only be well connected with privileged Information for it, and obviously a lot of Money is needed to be in that environment or people Who have a lot to prove, there are many Chaos that can arise ,only that how to do when Things are like this and demonstrate that it was actually manipulated? In every Casino it is known that there is always an advantage of the house and Even of the game itself, we Cannot see the game as a way to make easy money, it is best to See it as a way to have fun to entertain ourselves and accept the results.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 09, 2023, 12:43:21 PM

I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.

Well, as much as gambling is concern, once you’re unlucky, it’s possible that you will end up losing from all your games and eventually used up all your money. However, in cases that the games are rigged, that’s the main reason why we should avoid playing unlicensed casinos because they can actually do that, unfortunately we can’t sue them for that since they are even unregistered. And maybe there’s a way of identifying the games that are being rigged, but maybe the casinos are not practicing it or it’s just that no casino will ever admit that their games are rigged regardless of how reputable or not the casino is.

Instead of running the risk of fraud, we better avoid it because usually scam casinos will tempt gamblers by launching attractive promotions so that gamblers can visit and play gambling at the casino. This is what we have to avoid if we don't want to get experience being cheated by a fraudulent casino and also we will find it difficult to prove that the casino is cheating its players. And even if there is a way to identify rigged games, it won't be easy for us to get back the money we lost because they will deny it, especially if it's big money.

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Quote from: _act_ on April 09, 2023, 04:36:25 PM

Quote from: notblox1 on April 09, 2023, 04:28:52 PM

Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.

Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before? There are many casinos on the gambling board too which are good. You can try any of those sites too and see how good they are. What I am going for is reputation, it will be known if a casino is manipulating. But why manipulating when there is house hedge. We should avoid fake casinos.

For Livecasino I also use it and it does have quite a good selection of games and is not inferior to other big casino sites.
So far, Livecasino has quite good trust and reputation in the gambling industry and is trusted by many gamblers.
Even though Livecasino is not my favorite and reliable casino site, I can rely on them too and can provide pleasure when betting there. Manipulation is carried out only by scam casinos who want to make profits quickly but casinos like this do not have reputation and trust. We can find out and avoid casinos like this by looking at their feedback on forums because of course a bad casino will have many users suggesting to never try to use it.

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Aren't all casinos set up to win but it will be cheating too if the house always wins in almost all games on their platform, I'm also actually hard to say they are cheating because maybe I'm just unlucky playing in the casino, we can't do anything because no one will believe with us that's why i prefer sports betting because it can't be cheated than a provably fair casino i never trust that, if you feel you are cheated just leave the casino

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Am not sure if there are reputable casino that will glad to rig their own game since there are provider that do this for them and only them to operate .
and there are some casino that had been running good for long time , so why need to engage in scam sites?
find legitimate casino , and you can find those more in this forum.

not sure why there are still some gamblers here in bitcointalk that being lured in scam sites while they can clearly ask the community about the said site they will going to play.

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Quote from: Outhue on April 09, 2023, 11:27:32 AM

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

It’s always advised that avoid new and less popular casinos. You are here to gamble and make money, so you won’t get any benefit if you play at newly launched casinos. Moreover these types of tricks are mainly made by these casinos. They make small modifications in their game’s server and hence always wins when you place big bets. On the other hand if you want to check manually whether the game is fair or not, then you can simply check their provably fair system and verify your seeds. But I would still suggest you to play at old and established casinos, they are always friendly and have good reputation. Now the choice is yours OP.

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