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April 11, 2023, 06:54:01 AM
#70
You can't actually figure out whether the game you are playing with is rigged or not, particularly if it is from 3rd party service. That's why to make it sure that the games you are playing is safe I suggest that you should only play on the provably fair games as anyone can double check whether those bets are verified or rigged.
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April 11, 2023, 06:04:04 AM
#69
You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
People with such mindsets should simply gamble only at casinos that are trusted and that have provably-fair systems that provide you with the surety that the bets that you are winning or losing are actually fair and aren't systematically rigged, that gives you a mental peace that the casino hasn't rigged the game and you are actually losing.

I don't think that anyone who has ever gambled doesn't know that the house has an edge over the player no matter what game you play, it might differ for different games but it is always there, so losing to the house is a normal thing in gambling.
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April 11, 2023, 03:40:35 AM
#68
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
I am among the few who doesn't know that casinos rig their games though, it'll be good if you don't mention names next time especially if you do not have enough prove at your disposal.
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April 10, 2023, 11:40:10 PM
#67
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.
thats it mate, the problem with other gamblers are loving exploring new sites for their "Beginners Luck" thing but if they are being scammed or cheat , they will cry like a child knowing that there are so many sites that brings them fair gaming.
Actually it's good to explore new sites to add insight and experience for gamblers, but sometimes they forget the purpose and are lured by what's there, so they dare to take risks without thinking twice.
Not all new sites are bad but there is also no guarantee that new sites will be free from fraud because they don't have trust or reputation in the gambling industry yet so anything can still happen easily.
When accessing a new site, it is better to wait some time and learn everything, then make a deposit to play, but stick with a small amount first.
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April 10, 2023, 09:57:48 PM
#66
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.
thats it mate, the problem with other gamblers are loving exploring new sites for their "Beginners Luck" thing but if they are being scammed or cheat , they will cry like a child knowing that there are so many sites that brings them fair gaming.
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There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
the best thing? ask this forum for better understanding lol.
hero member
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April 10, 2023, 07:36:52 PM
#65
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

That I agree you can't be losing all the time, for many hours on many days, but you should at least experience winning, one of the ways to analyze a game if it is rigged is to check your betting or game history and check if there are anomalies in them like you still have balance then all of a sudden its wipe out when based on your computation it doesn't add up.
Casinos with good reputations will not rig their games, it's hard to defend your reputation if you are accused of rigging your games when you already have an edge over the players.
Really hard to be mindful about fairness specially when you are dealing on a game that do involves multiple rolls on instant manner or fastest duration which checking out every single bet would really be a pain

in the ass or something that you wouldnt bother yourself on doing so.I agree on what most people been saying that as long you are dealing with a popular casino then you can somewhat assure
that you are dealing in the right place. Games could be rigged but there's no way that we could be able to prove it out.They wont really be leaving any holes
if ever they are really that doing behind the curtains thats why there's no much that we can do.
hero member
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April 10, 2023, 07:22:53 PM
#64
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My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Hmm I think it boils down to the experience that other users also feel when they gamble on a certain website. That is why, it is very important that you join a casino that has a designated page/thread in this forum for you to see everyone's feedback about the game.

It is somehow difficult where to draw the line and to know if the game is rigged since everything revolves around luck. House edges are designed to keep the casino from at least gaining a slight advantage since they are also considered as "businesses" at the end of the day.

If a person keeps on losing and this so called house edges seems rigged, then you have to check other people's feedback in the process. If it is an isolated case where you only experienced it, chances are that you are just really unlucky. But if other people experience it too, then the game/casino might be rigged.
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April 10, 2023, 07:00:16 PM
#63
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.

That I agree you can't be losing all the time, for many hours on many days, but you should at least experience winning, one of the ways to analyze a game if it is rigged is to check your betting or game history and check if there are anomalies in them like you still have balance then all of a sudden its wipe out when based on your computation it doesn't add up.
Casinos with good reputations will not rig their games, it's hard to defend your reputation if you are accused of rigging your games when you already have an edge over the players.
hero member
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April 10, 2023, 05:59:45 PM
#62
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For me I always  have this feeling of games being rigged when I have experience lost on many tries on virtual games like soccer, it will feel as if you know the games and the correct outcome when you are winning but when the losses starts coming it will be like the odds have being altered or the results are been changed by someone in the system main stream. But it's all natural because it's was design to operate so, we win and most times lose.
hero member
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April 10, 2023, 05:43:16 PM
#61
I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.
Probably, if cheating is done by the players, and they consider it, most likely the casino itself is cheating too but I also think there’s really a way how to detect that the game is rigged or the casino is cheating, we just don’t know it but maybe in the future it will be certain and known. However, if you want to avoid experiencing these rigged games, then play on the most popular and reputable casino, for sure every game is following its transparency and fair system.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 05:34:51 PM
#60
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Casinos nowadays does really have that kind of verifier which if you are somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to technicality then you could really be that able to verify for yourself whether they are cheating or not but of course its not something that give out 100% sure that it is really that fair at all but at least they are confident on showing off those hashes compared into those who arent showing anything at all.
This is why it would really be depending if you are really that keen on finding these things.

One thing that lets me assure and make me that confident that im dealing with the right place is that you should stick on where people been sticking on.You should be playing
on places where lots of people been playing which this do indicate that this is fair than on touching up those non so popular.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 05:27:21 PM
#59
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you.

Casino rigging the game can't be verified by large data samples.  One of the reasons is that gambling produces random results unless the specification of the game script is checked and found a suspicious set-up, we cannot use the gambling statistical analysis in proving that the casino is rigging the game.  So it will take a technical team that is knowledgeable of the default set-up of games that can detect irregularities in the game script to know if the game is rigging.  It does include validating the current script setup of the game and the original setup or default setup of the game.
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April 10, 2023, 03:59:24 PM
#58
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
There are two ways to go about this, one is to use their probably fair feature and check that everything is in order, another possibility is to make use of statistical analysis, if you have a large enough sample from a game then we can say with certainty whether the game has been rigged or not, but be careful this will require a really large sample and a slight deviation from the theoretical results is to be expected, however if the deviation is too large then you will know that the casino is cheating you.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 03:20:15 PM
#57
You can ask for audit documentation that shows actual RTP on the specific game/casino, otherwise, you can't individually pick a game and try to figure out RTP with small wagers. Even if you may able to spin slots for million bets, it is not enough to gather real data, unfortunately. The real reason behind it is the average payout depends on game statistics that have been determined mathematically during the creation process. As you mentioned, if you lose 20 times back-to-back in the same game, it doesn't prove anything. You just made a gambling decision and lost money on it, no need to look for anything else behind this scene.
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April 10, 2023, 03:17:43 PM
#56
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
You don’t have to worry if you are playing in a reputable online casino as cheating or rigged games are hardly to exist. They have that provably fair system wherein you can actually make a complaint and justify it if ever. But in most cases, rigged games are never observed in licensed casinos. However, if you chose to play in grey areas, expect that some games are rigged so you have to be cautious at all times. They can’t assure the players security so you have to secure yourself from being cheated if not by the casino, but maybe from your co-gamblers.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 03:06:36 PM
#55
I think that licensed casinos have to prove their "provably fair" claim. I am not sure how that exactly works though. Perhaps there are auditing firms who take care of looking at the code or perhaps the games themselves are open source so anyone can take a look at how they work? With traditional physical casinos there are auditors who come by and check the slot machines and tables and so on to make sure there is nothing out of place. Perhaps there are random checks without the casino owners knowledge in the digital versions as well? With cryptocurrency it should be even easier to check the inflow and outflow of money.
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April 10, 2023, 02:46:08 PM
#54
You should not gamble if you have the mindset that they rig their games, and personally, I don't see it as a scam if gamblers are finding it difficult to win with a casino. But if such a gamble suspects foul play, then an alternative should be sorted for. One thing about casinos is that they are not as plain as anyone could want them, the general saying that "you can't beat the house" is not just a mere saying. There are programs and calculations put in place to favour the house that I don't believe are scams unless they don't pay your money.

And no matter how the house is favoured, some gamblers will always be winning at one time or the other. This is what keeps the business smoothly running.
we to regulate the way we bet and gamble on different casinos so that we are not going to end up been the loser. There are so many fake bonuses on many of these online gambling sites and if we are not careful or know what we are doing, we might lose big on our capital because of little greed of cashing out really quick.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 02:42:43 PM
#53
There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
Technically, it's almost impossible to know when a casino game is rigged, maybe one of the easiest way is if you have a friend and you both bet on the same game but in opposite directions, and still, you both lost the game, then it simply means that the game is rigged by the casino, because since you and your friend bet in opposite directions, one of you is supposed to win..

The best way to avoid being a victim to such is to only play on casinos one trust, casinos with good track record and reputation.
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 02:25:03 PM
#52
so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?
For the in-house games of a casino, try to verify the result of the game if you have doubts about the fairness of it. You can verify it on the casino by changing the seed, otherwise you can verify the result on some casino related website (e.g. BTCGOSU Provably Fair Verifier). There is nothing to worry about the fairness of the in-house games if a casino has RNG certificate. But, you have to trust the provider for the slots and table games.

I remember the case of luckygames back then as they tried to rig their games due to one of their winning players.
Luckygames was very popular casino in 2017 and 2018. It used to be one of my favourite casino. I was surprised when I heard that Luckygames was manipulating the result of their game. They had shut down their business when the news spread widely. The Crypto Gambling Foundation had published an article about it: Luckygames.io – The monarch of manipulation
legendary
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April 10, 2023, 02:16:32 PM
#51

In general you can't take 20 losses in a row as a solid proof the game is rigged, because after all it's all about random results which can indeed take the gambler to lose 20 times or more in sequence, without losing the legitimacy of the results.

20 losses in a row are common to dice if we happen to be playing in a long session.  This is another reason why Martingale is devastating to use in Dice games if we plan to play a long session.

Actually, most scams executed by casinos are related to the denial of cashouts by the house to the users, and not during the betting sessions.

Scam casinos don't only deny withdrawal but also their game house edge is rigged, having more house edge percentage than the regular one.  So it is always better to look for a casino that is reputable and licensed.  This way we can avoid rigged games.
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