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November 30, 2016, 07:57:47 AM
#76
Depends on your definition of dead now doesn't it.

What would you call it when Monero has not accomplished anything since it started 2'ish years ago..
Except Dark Market usage which turned out to be a flop.

What are you all tying your Monero hopes to now ?

Maybe scrounge up enough cash for a $45,000.00 Nascar paint job ?  Grin

one word: FUNGIBILITY...

XMR is the only truly fungible digital cash, that's a fact... I can see the value proposition in that, obviously you can't... future will tell if 'the market' will value it...

legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
November 30, 2016, 07:05:28 AM
#75
Depends on your definition of dead now doesn't it.

What would you call it when Monero has not accomplished anything since it started 2'ish years ago..
Except Dark Market usage which turned out to be a flop.

What are you all tying your Monero hopes to now ?

Maybe scrounge up enough cash for a $45,000.00 Nascar paint job ?  Grin
legendary
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November 29, 2016, 09:46:01 PM
#74
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.

So happy I bought back in. XMR to the moon baby. Dont stop now!

XMR is a great coin and has been so for some time now. This little upset will do nothing to the greatness that is Monero !
It does have some backing here and there as some companies have adopted it as a payment method and not many altcoins and boast that now can they ?

Long live Monero !!

Well, a successful cryptocurrency will attract obituaries once in a while. People have stopped counting the number of times that obituaries have been written about Bitcoin. This won't be the last obituary written about Monero as well.  Smiley
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November 29, 2016, 01:58:31 PM
#73
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.

So happy I bought back in. XMR to the moon baby. Dont stop now!

XMR is a great coin and has been so for some time now. This little upset will do nothing to the greatness that is Monero !
It does have some backing here and there as some companies have adopted it as a payment method and not many altcoins and boast that now can they ?

Long live Monero !!
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November 28, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
#72
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.

So happy I bought back in. XMR to the moon baby. Dont stop now!
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
October 11, 2016, 04:12:06 AM
#71
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.

Ok thanks for the pro tip "FULL MEMBER"

I will run out and mortgage my house and buy Silk Road Morono's NOW !1111ONE
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October 11, 2016, 02:13:56 AM
#70
only bad analys trade and lost much money
can say altcoin is big community big volume transaction , can say scam game over or RIP
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October 11, 2016, 01:46:12 AM
#69
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.

If you think you made a good decision, you better think again.
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October 10, 2016, 11:32:23 PM
#68
I just bought a bunch because its coming back and coming back in a serious manner. Just watch and learn and remember that patience is key.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
October 10, 2016, 08:43:35 AM
#67
i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point  Grin

first of all, it's not 'supporting' darknetmarkets, darknetmarkets start using it because it's the digital currency with the best properties for said use-case... privacy, anonimity, untraceability --> fungibility etc.

and if xmr dies, it won't be because of this, otherwise why didn't bitcoin die already, why didn't cash die already ....

ah well, rational arguments are pointless I guess,

best regards



Spoetnik quotations remind me why I have him blocked. If the market rose based on dark markets, then it hardly seems doomed by them now does it? And if keeping them dark dooms them, then those investors who bought in on that hype are unclear of xmr's point--seems there is enough stupid to go around and then some. This is why rationale investors always win eventually--because stupid is as stupid does, consistently, over and over, for the whole course of humanity, which is take a short-sighted evaluation and equate it to long term patterns--this is why sputz failed to grasp why Monero would rise and why traders continually get beat by Monero every time there is a rise--they simply can't process information that takes more than two months to digest.

It didn't.. you are full of shit worse than this topic Cheesy

This has been posted and debunked lots since the Monero / DM news made it's rounds.
(probably by you with your other puppet shill accounts)
Nice try though.. again.

PS:
Block who ever you want "Mr. fungibility".

"best regards"
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October 09, 2016, 06:02:08 PM
#66
I just really found out about Monero. RIP, we hardly new ye. (It's an attempt at humor.)
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October 09, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
#65
If Monero loses the support from Darknet marketplaces, then it goes back to the beggining and lose all kind of interest...
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October 09, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
#64
It looks monero has very strong support at 0.01, so in the short term it may keep this price, but I hope xmr have dumped so we can get cheaper monero
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October 09, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
#63
I know what you're trying to do, I won't do it, this discussion does not belong here... by all means, open yet another topic discussing both coins, it will end in a shit-throwing-contest (again)

best regards,

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October 09, 2016, 11:58:43 AM
#62
What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down?  The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra

I think that's a nice initiative, but I read up on SDC, it has/had some problems, don't like the P&D hypes with countdown clocks either... but as said before, I love competition, so let SDC bring it on, I'll praise it if it works out...
And again, even if this works, I don't believe it will automatically bring down monero... other DMP's can spring in existence (openbazaar) for example, where one can choose which currency to use, I don't believe a DMP has to be hardcoupled with one specific currency...

best regards,

Maybe you should read up a little more history because you will find more P&D hypes with Monero.

But lets get down to the tech.  Can you explain to me any of the advantages Monero has over Shadow, I am struggling to see any.  




sorry, this topic is about 'rip monero' because of exit-scam, nice schema you got there, but there are already other topics where this is heavily discussed:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/shadowcash-vs-monero-an-unbiased-debate-1140006
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@jimmco/monero-vs-shadowcash-epic-anonymity-crypto-fight
http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1414/how-does-shadowcash-compare-to-monero
https://shnoe.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/de-anonymizing-shadowcash-and-oz-coin/  (I know I know, you're gonna post your article and say monero had the same bug, this was on testnet however... SDC has proven lack of peerreview, that's actually what bothers me the most...)

so everyone can do his/her own due diligence using google... I did mine...

good luck and best regards,

Thats great that you did your due diligence, but lets get down to the tech here.

You have done your googling, can you explain what advantages Monero has over Shadow?
sr. member
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October 09, 2016, 11:33:45 AM
#61
What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down?  The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra

I think that's a nice initiative, but I read up on SDC, it has/had some problems, don't like the P&D hypes with countdown clocks either... but as said before, I love competition, so let SDC bring it on, I'll praise it if it works out...
And again, even if this works, I don't believe it will automatically bring down monero... other DMP's can spring in existence (openbazaar) for example, where one can choose which currency to use, I don't believe a DMP has to be hardcoupled with one specific currency...

best regards,

Maybe you should read up a little more history because you will find more P&D hypes with Monero.

But lets get down to the tech.  Can you explain to me any of the advantages Monero has over Shadow, I am struggling to see any.  




sorry, this topic is about 'rip monero' because of exit-scam, nice schema you got there, but there are already other topics where this is heavily discussed:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/shadowcash-vs-monero-an-unbiased-debate-1140006
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@jimmco/monero-vs-shadowcash-epic-anonymity-crypto-fight
http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1414/how-does-shadowcash-compare-to-monero
https://shnoe.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/de-anonymizing-shadowcash-and-oz-coin/  (I know I know, you're gonna post your article and say monero had the same bug, this was on testnet however... SDC has proven lack of peerreview, that's actually what bothers me the most...)

so everyone can do his/her own due diligence using google... I did mine...

good luck and best regards,




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October 09, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
#60
What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down?  The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra

I think that's a nice initiative, but I read up on SDC, it has/had some problems, don't like the P&D hypes with countdown clocks either... but as said before, I love competition, so let SDC bring it on, I'll praise it if it works out...
And again, even if this works, I don't believe it will automatically bring down monero... other DMP's can spring in existence (openbazaar) for example, where one can choose which currency to use, I don't believe a DMP has to be hardcoupled with one specific currency...

best regards,

Maybe you should read up a little more history because you will find more P&D hypes with Monero.

But lets get down to the tech.  Can you explain to me any of the advantages Monero has over Shadow, I am struggling to see any. 


sr. member
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October 09, 2016, 11:08:52 AM
#59
What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down?  The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra

I think that's a nice initiative, but I read up on SDC, it has/had some problems, don't like the P&D hypes with countdown clocks either... but as said before, I love competition, so let SDC bring it on, I'll praise it if it works out...
And again, even if this works, I don't believe it will automatically bring down monero... other DMP's can spring in existence (openbazaar) for example, where one can choose which currency to use, I don't believe a DMP has to be hardcoupled with one specific currency...

best regards,
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October 09, 2016, 10:56:00 AM
#58
I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.  

if the messenger is spreading outright lies (millions of xmr) then one can shoot him...

and rustynailer, you know as well as I that a market doing an exit scam <> rip one of the currencies that was used on said market...

come on man, I get that you have some sort of beef with monero, but please don't play stupid and deliver some actual critique, I know you're smarter than this shit...

best regards

Okay then,

Alphabay are now the undisputed largest DNM which makes them the tall poppy that Law Enforcement will be in no doubt going after. Its a centralized market and its just a matter of time before it is taken down or the operators jump ship. And without Alphabay, Monero would soon disappear into irrelevance as some far superior platforms take its place, its a one trick pony after all.


Yes, law enforcement will be going after them, so what currency would you use, a currency where a transaction history can be looked up? Eventually possibly connecting some addresses to a source address where you possibly needed to go to a KYC-process to obtain your coins? Or a currency that is fully private, has an opaque blockchain an your transaction history can't be looked up, so there's no possibility to connect it to your identity, even if you had to go through a KYC-process... Vendors and consumers benefit from monero in this case, als the dnm-owners benefit from monero in this case... I can't see how this is an argument against using monero? It protects you from said LE-agencies...

Why would monero disappear without alphabay? why didn't bitcoin disappear without SR? Why wouldn't other DNM's spring to life using monero... sure, monero could get a (heavy blow), but the use case will always be there...

I would love to see superior platforms come to life, but why wouldn't monero fit in with those? Do you really believe that a decentralised market intrinsically has to be coupled with just one currency? I don't, I hope there will exist lots of DMP's (to avoid state control/oppression) with different properties, and they will probably use different currencies...

I hate to see why people want some coin not to succeed just because they're invested in something else, I love competition, especially currency-competition, so why always look for a stick to hit the dog and try to come up with fake arguments (sorry, but that's what your arguments are, fake...)? Monero is the go to private currency at the moment, if something better surfaces, I'll praise it, but untill now I found nothing that is true competition for monero...

and it's not a one trick pony, monero beats bitcoin, technologically and 'monetarilly', bitcoin has the network-effect though...

What if there was a completely decentralized anonymous market that couldn't be exit scammed or shut down?  The platform to take down Monero is already here. Umbra
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October 09, 2016, 10:42:18 AM
#57
I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.  

if the messenger is spreading outright lies (millions of xmr) then one can shoot him...

and rustynailer, you know as well as I that a market doing an exit scam <> rip one of the currencies that was used on said market...

come on man, I get that you have some sort of beef with monero, but please don't play stupid and deliver some actual critique, I know you're smarter than this shit...

best regards

Okay then,

Alphabay are now the undisputed largest DNM which makes them the tall poppy that Law Enforcement will be in no doubt going after. Its a centralized market and its just a matter of time before it is taken down or the operators jump ship. And without Alphabay, Monero would soon disappear into irrelevance as some far superior platforms take its place, its a one trick pony after all.


Yes, law enforcement will be going after them, so what currency would you use, a currency where a transaction history can be looked up? Eventually possibly connecting some addresses to a source address where you possibly needed to go to a KYC-process to obtain your coins? Or a currency that is fully private, has an opaque blockchain an your transaction history can't be looked up, so there's no possibility to connect it to your identity, even if you had to go through a KYC-process... Vendors and consumers benefit from monero in this case, als the dnm-owners benefit from monero in this case... I can't see how this is an argument against using monero? It protects you from said LE-agencies...

Why would monero disappear without alphabay? why didn't bitcoin disappear without SR? Why wouldn't other DNM's spring to life using monero... sure, monero could get a (heavy) blow, but the use case will always be there...

I would love to see superior platforms come to life, but why wouldn't monero fit in with those? Do you really believe that a decentralised market intrinsically has to be coupled with just one currency? I don't, I hope there will exist lots of DMP's (to avoid state control/oppression) with different properties, and they will probably use different currencies...

I hate to see why people want some coin not to succeed just because they're invested in something else, I love competition, especially currency-competition, so why always look for a stick to hit the dog and try to come up with fake arguments (sorry, but that's what your arguments are, fake...)? Monero is the go to private currency at the moment, if something better surfaces, I'll praise it, but untill now I found nothing that is true competition for monero...

and it's not a one trick pony, monero beats bitcoin, technologically and 'monetarilly', bitcoin has the network-effect though...

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