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Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 08:44:00 AM

Quote from: rustynailer on October 09, 2016, 08:32:06 AM

I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.

if the messenger is spreading outright lies (millions of xmr) then one can shoot him...

and rustynailer, you know as well as I that a market doing an exit scam <> rip one of the currencies that was used on said market...

come on man, I get that you have some sort of beef with monero, but please don't play stupid and deliver some actual critique, I know you're smarter than this shit...

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Okay then,

Alphabay are now the undisputed largest DNM which makes them the tall poppy that Law Enforcement will be in no doubt going after. Its a centralized market and its just a matter of time before it is taken down or the operators jump ship. And without Alphabay, Monero would soon disappear into irrelevance as some far superior platforms take its place, its a one trick pony after all.

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Quote from: Spoetnik on October 09, 2016, 09:00:27 AM

Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 08:47:26 AM

Quote from: Spoetnik on October 09, 2016, 08:42:08 AM

i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point Grin

first of all, it's not 'supporting' darknetmarkets, darknetmarkets start using it because it's the digital currency with the best properties for said use-case... privacy, anonimity, untraceability --> fungibility etc.

and if xmr dies, it won't be because of this, otherwise why didn't bitcoin die already, why didn't cash die already ....

ah well, rational arguments are pointless I guess,

best regards

If you are using it or involved with it then that is support.
Sorry there is now way to worm your way out of that glaring obvious point.

If as that idiot says.. Monero was designed to be used on Dark Markets and YOU use Monero then you are in fact supporting Monero and Dark Markets.

I will not support either of them in any way ever period .
But i actually have class & integrity unlike most of you greedy stupid dregs here.

And "dies" ?
Bitcoin is not fully ANON so it's a retarded comparison you just made.
But the Dark market usage with Bitcoin has in fact hampered it's adoption and stained it's reputation.
The public hears about that Silk Road shit before they hear it's a currency.

I have tried to tell you all what the public sees but you're all blind living in a bubble.

Don't take my word for it just go outside and talk to people on the street..

without DNM's btc would be dead already, it would have never got the traction needed... people would still be paying everything with credit cards, because it's easier, faster, more familiar...

the only reason people started using bitcoin was because of DNM's, sure, you got some libertarian hard money fans who wanted to use such currency and saw how it could be a defense against the paper currency scam, but that ain't the reason bitcoin got mainstream-traction... It started with DNM's, it grew on DNM's, and then it got to more mainstream...

I think you are the one who got things turned upside down...

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Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 08:47:26 AM

Quote from: Spoetnik on October 09, 2016, 08:42:08 AM

i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point Grin

first of all, it's not 'supporting' darknetmarkets, darknetmarkets start using it because it's the digital currency with the best properties for said use-case... privacy, anonimity, untraceability --> fungibility etc.

and if xmr dies, it won't be because of this, otherwise why didn't bitcoin die already, why didn't cash die already ....

ah well, rational arguments are pointless I guess,

best regards

Spoetnik quotations remind me why I have him blocked. If the market rose based on dark markets, then it hardly seems doomed by them now does it? And if keeping them dark dooms them, then those investors who bought in on that hype are unclear of xmr's point--seems there is enough stupid to go around and then some. This is why rationale investors always win eventually--because stupid is as stupid does, consistently, over and over, for the whole course of humanity, which is take a short-sighted evaluation and equate it to long term patterns--this is why sputz failed to grasp why Monero would rise and why traders continually get beat by Monero every time there is a rise--they simply can't process information that takes more than two months to digest.

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Quote from: obit33 on October 09, 2016, 08:47:26 AM

Quote from: Spoetnik on October 09, 2016, 08:42:08 AM

i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point Grin

first of all, it's not 'supporting' darknetmarkets, darknetmarkets start using it because it's the digital currency with the best properties for said use-case... privacy, anonimity, untraceability --> fungibility etc.

and if xmr dies, it won't be because of this, otherwise why didn't bitcoin die already, why didn't cash die already ....

ah well, rational arguments are pointless I guess,

best regards

If you are using it or involved with it then that is support.
Sorry there is now way to worm your way out of that glaring obvious point.

If as that idiot says.. Monero was designed to be used on Dark Markets and YOU use Monero then you are in fact supporting Monero and Dark Markets.

I will not support either of them in any way ever period .
But i actually have class & integrity unlike most of you greedy stupid dregs here.

And "dies" ?
Bitcoin is not fully ANON so it's a retarded comparison you just made.
But the Dark market usage with Bitcoin has in fact hampered it's adoption and stained it's reputation.
The public hears about that Silk Road shit before they hear it's a currency.

I have tried to tell you all what the public sees but you're all blind living in a bubble.

Don't take my word for it just go outside and talk to people on the street..

obit33

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Quote from: Spoetnik on October 09, 2016, 08:42:08 AM

i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point Grin

first of all, it's not 'supporting' darknetmarkets, darknetmarkets start using it because it's the digital currency with the best properties for said use-case... privacy, anonimity, untraceability --> fungibility etc.

and if xmr dies, it won't be because of this, otherwise why didn't bitcoin die already, why didn't cash die already ....

ah well, rational arguments are pointless I guess,

best regards

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Quote from: rustynailer on October 09, 2016, 08:32:06 AM

I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.

if the messenger is spreading outright lies (millions of xmr) then one can shoot him...

and rustynailer, you know as well as I that a market doing an exit scam <> rip one of the currencies that was used on said market...

come on man, I get that you have some sort of beef with monero, but please don't play stupid and deliver some actual critique, I know you're smarter than this shit...

best regards

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Quote from: generalizethis on October 09, 2016, 07:46:41 AM

Quote from: EmilioMann on October 09, 2016, 07:30:27 AM

What about the millions of XMR that Oasis stole from users and will be dumped on the market?

Millions? You sure about that number? The article that you linked isn't sure, so unless you were involved, how would you know?

Not that it matters--my point stands (and the bigger the number, the bigger my point). Monero was designed to keep markets dark, so saying that it is "doomed because it kept a dark market dark" is the type of stupid I expect to hear on tv shows dedicated to alien abduction and bigfoot sightings.

i have said and i will say it again.. it's dead / doomed BECAUSE it's supporting "Dark Markets"

So thanks for reinforcing *MY* point Grin

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I am confused.

If Oasis did an exit scam, why are people crying fud in here? And correct me if I am wrong but isnt Oasis one of the two major dnm's to accept Monero?

We dont need to be shooting the messenger here, even if it is EmilioMann.

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Quote from: EmilioMann on October 09, 2016, 07:30:27 AM

What about the millions of XMR that Oasis stole from users and will be dumped on the market?

only 13 million xmr have been mined already, since you say millionS that would mean at least 2 million xmr were stolen, right? So you're saying that in the few weeks that OASIS accepted XMR they gathered at least 15.3% of the total current xmr-supply...

If you're gonna FUD, at least try to make it the least bit credible...

TL;DR: you're stupid

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The only thing, which is quite clear is that Monero price is back at around 0.011 BTC. In short term Monero price will go up again, but not so high - see details here from the past three months - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/ Grin

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Quote from: EmilioMann on October 09, 2016, 07:30:27 AM

What about the millions of XMR that Oasis stole from users and will be dumped on the market?

Millions? You sure about that number? The article that you linked isn't sure, so unless you were involved, how would you know?

Not that it matters--my point stands (and the bigger the number, the bigger my point). Monero was designed to keep markets dark, so saying that it is "doomed because it kept a dark market dark" is the type of stupid I expect to hear on tv shows dedicated to alien abduction and bigfoot sightings.

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What about the millions of XMR that Oasis stole from users and will be dumped on the market?

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Quote from: EmilioMann on October 05, 2016, 08:03:09 PM

"Monero Loses Darknet Market in Apparent Exit Scam"
https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-loses-darknet-market-in-apparent-exit-scam

What a bullshit FUD. Got anything better to FUD over? Bitcoin would be dead 100x so far if it was like this.

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So here's the argument? Am I getting this right? Please, someone tell me if I've got a detail wrong as it can't possibly be correct as I'm reading it--a coin meant to keep dark markets dark succeeded in keeping a dark market dark and that is a sign of its doom? Let me repeat in case you misread it (or I missed the point of this thread): a coin meant to keep dark markets dark succeeded in keeping a dark market dark and that is a sign of its doom?

Here's a link to page 1 in case someone got lost in one of the sideshows: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16468462

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I've put my money in another unknown coin. (NAV)

Looks promising with the release of their anonymous network by the end of this month
http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/nav-coins-anon-send-it-works/

I think it's the moment to jump on this train

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I can't stand the Monero posters on here, or at least I used to not be able to stand them (they aren't as spammy now as they used to be) but this is a joke of course it is not dead. This is crypto after all if a hack or theft killed a coin then there wouldn't be a single coin left.

Agreed and what bugs me is these assholes think if they lay low i am suppose to forget about years worth of bullshit from them.

The behavior of the dev's etc speak volumes..

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why you say RIP monero
what your reason this rational why rip monero, monero die

but only dump and pump this altcoin i think can't say this coin die

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The Ethereum pump game plan was well thought off, someone once told me that the Dark market thing is not real but that Whales need such news to drive the market crazy and it end up been true, I pity the bagholders now

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