Topic: Ripple is in major trouble - page 9. (Read 25437 times)

if they want to make money they should be pumping the life out it after its horrendous day!!

That's correct. We're working to build a level playing field. XRP will have to compete with other assets, including BTC and ETH. The idea is to make the pie as big as possible, not to get XRP a big slice of a small pie.

Just run every single coin on your network and let banks/market-maker use the one with the best trading value at the time to whichever currency, end this XRP sham already. You can run any coin on your network with some work right? I heard recently that ETH is getting compatible to run on the Ripple Network.

The onus is on you (or Ripple inc) not the other way around.

I understand that you have 500 arguments. But I can only solidly address one or two at a time. Every time I do, you refuse to engage with the argument I've made and instead move on to other arguments. That is simply not what someone who cares whether the things they believe are true actually does.

I made one argument in response to one argument you made. You responded by complaining that we've had this conversation before, though we haven't. I asked you to stick to the point you made and my response, you responded with fifty new points.

If you're not going to actually respond to me, stop pretending to.

Again, this is a very specific claim that I'm making: "Banks will use the cheapest path that complies with their regulatory requirements. They don't have to know who supplies the currency to the destination (they don't know now) or how that's paid for (they don't know now). So a payment can be bridged by XRP, the sending and receiving banks can have no idea that's what happened, and they are entirely okay with that."

If you disagree with that, explain why. If not, concede it and move on.

@Joel

You are full of shit and lying.. and a paid employee of Ripple inc with a vested interest in siphoning chump change from children & idiots for a me too ICO coin.

The assertion "Big Banks" are going to one day adopt Ripple coins is blatantly retarded.

And it is you that is giving us the run around playing games.
That is on those off rare occasion when you show your fucking face.
I comment and you pop up saying i do not respond to you ?
Well where were you the last 99 times i commented ?
Seems you show up every few months then claim i ignored your points..
bullshit.. you're ignoring mine (casting / projecting on me what you are guilty of)

I refuse to play your long winded little games of verbal gymnastics and head games over RIPPLE INCORPORATED's 100% PREMINED ICO SHIT COIN

I don't give a shit what you think at all.
You are a corrupt player on a corrupt team here to make money.. i am not.
Nobody is padding my bank account to run my mouth buddy.
UNLIKE YOU !

And you can't deny it either because it says so in your fucking SIG.
Employee's don't work for free... but they sure as hell do show up here to aggregate chump change from kids via Poloniex profits in an unregulated scam scene.
Feel good about your self bud ?
Proud of selling your "Big Banks" ICO coin to children in exchange for their lunch money ?

Ripple is fraud.
Ripple has been blatant bullshit since day 1.

If you all have even 1 good reason why Big Banks are going to work with Ripple inc and adopt a crypto currency 100% premined ICO coin called XRP i'd love to hear it.

The reality is their vast existing list of options slaughter any crypto bullshit.
Why in gods fucking name would a bank want to hand over public accountability when they never have before and it is of no benefit to them but a penalty in cost and finances and performance ?

Right now banks already have a shit load of options to move money.
For example
Google search the list of Banks using Interac eTransfer.. it's simply monolithic !
Why would they ?
Heard of Interac ICO profiteer scammy losers ?
You may have seen it stamped on every ATM machine on earth dumb fucks  
And not only that but they offer other services above and beyond "Interac eTransfer"
But for the home user it boils down to benefits for them (they have an alternative scheme for business)

As it was in 2013 i can NOW send money or receive it with eTransfer and it is virtually instant.
And costs about 50 cents.
All i do is click on the verification link in the email and the email shows up instantly.
BAM !
Money is in the bank that fast.

Then.. lets look at Bitcoin.
How has it been doing since 2013 ?
Well it costs more and more and gets slower and slower.
And does ripple's XRP solve any of that ?
No.. it introduces even more issues i have bookmarked ready to jam down your dumb fuck shill throats.

You are a fraud peddling blatant lies and bullshit to gullible idiots to sell the Ripple INCORPORATED ICO PREMINED "coins"
Because that is how YOU get paid.. by Ripple inc.

Lucky for the list of big shot CTO's and CEO's and CTFO's and all the other corporate kiddy crypto bigwig's none of these little idiot profiteer brats give two shits what Ripple is or HOW it works or if it was launched scammy (which it was)
All they care about is.. will it make me money now ?
That is it.
Whether the truth is "Big Banks are using Ripple" is of no concern to them..
unless they think it will pump their shitcoin "investor" "Holdings" in their "markets"

Joel go fuck yourself.
I don't care what you think.
And i would be happy to hear you are in jail or at least investigated by the Fed's for fraud.
Don't think it can't happen either.. maybe FiNCEN needs to have another look at you guys ?
Getting a little cocky little mister "market maker" ?

this was so clear, bank parasites pretend to be interested in crypto just to steal their tech and use it for their own benefit, well doesnt matter comunity projects like ark will rule the future

I would say so loads of people selling it on the markets right now price is dropping like a stone.

To prove noobwits right, priceless.

First Mover Advantage.   There's no other way to say it.  It's the reason why Coke will forever be above store brand cola, and you could fill pages with other examples.  That's why these limpid cesspoolcoins won't ever gain traction.   Bitcoin did it first and did it best.  The me-too coins are just that.  Bitcoin with some other unappealing label slapped on it by half wits.

You could get off that merry go round by engaging *my* arguments when you talk to me rather than complaining about what other people are doing. Just a thought.

Yes, I agree that there are people spreading bogus information in support of XRP, just as there are people doing that in support of many other cryptos. And the same goes for people spreading FUD about all of them.

I don't care whether people agree or disagree with me. People are free to have whatever opinions they want and there's no such thing as a wrong opinion. What I'm engaging with is the claims behind the opinions. Claims are either or true or false.

Again, I have claimed that this is a fact several times: "Banks will use the cheapest path that complies with their regulatory requirements. They don't have to know who supplies the currency to the destination (they don't know now) or how that's paid for (they don't know now). So a payment can be bridged by XRP, the sending and receiving banks can have no idea that's what happened, and they are entirely okay with that."

Do you think that's not a fact? If so, why? I replied to you by directly addressing the claims behind your opinions. I've done this several times, and you never defend or abandon the claims. So it's no surprise we're back to square one when you repeat your opinions.

@JoelKatz
Can you possibly fathom how many times i have been over this ?

There is patterns in crypto..
Chant lies and play dumb and repeat.
Cry FUD then ignore any criticism then.. repeat.
Someone disagrees ?
Ignore them and.. repeat.

I could give TONS of reasons (like i have before) but why bother ?
#1 ..no one cares.
#2 ..it will be ignored and i will have to repeat what i say when the big banks are using Ripple / ETH news is posted again.

It's a merry go round that goes on and on for years.
Nothing ever changes.

I think you're wrong, but even if you're right, it actually makes no difference. Banks will use the cheapest path that complies with their regulatory requirements. They don't have to know who supplies the currency to the destination (they don't know now) or how that's paid for (they don't know now). So a payment can be bridged by XRP, the sending and receiving banks can have no idea that's what happened, and they are entirely okay with that.

You are so right, time is everything in cryptos, and XRP has a lot of time working out. Is not just fork a code and distribute coins. All the know how of XRP are 5-6 years of advantage. This mean an eternity in IoT.

Since when was Ripple outside the trouble? Ripple itself is a trouble. If you don't see this, you're probably drunk on its rise, but be careful. Its price movement is so speculative.

Some coins are at their bottom right now because of the pump on the Bitcoin right now. The speculations are just predictions. Read an article where someone said that the pump on the Bitcoin is because the technological countries like Japan, Taiwan,etc. Will start accepting cryptocurrencies. People just talk their mind, we have to decide on our own.

All you guys needed was 1 good article of news and the Whales would have shot it past 50c at Consensus. Let's see what happens, too much spread and volatility for banks to even consider using XRP. You guys have some market makers, I see them on GateHub/BitStamp selling for 1-2c margin maintaining the price. They're stabilizing XRP. The only issue would be is this is a growing space so when something stales people will hop out and hop into new projects for a chance at making more money. So it's an iffy situation, when XRP stabilizes people sell while the HODLers with bigger dreams hold to sell another day. At the end of the day everyone is looking to sell for profit. You see David the only reason 99.9% of XRP holders are holding it is because they see its' value increasing. If it were to ever settle and hit its peak that day a huge dump would occur that not even the market makers could control. Some people have $1 dreams some $10 some $100 some $1000 etc., I'm sure you see all the foolish posts and chuckle to yourself as do I. Then those people would move on to the next "BIG Thing". I know XRP has better tech but BitCoin is BitCoin. All these other coins would die if they hit peak value. The future of alts is they will become shares that pay dividends to the holders. They will get their tangible value from there. Start-Ups can make decentralized projects and get publicly funded while keeping some coins for themselves and some for investors. This is how I see the CryptoVerse evolving. The reason why BitCoin has no valuation is because it is the storage of wealth. Every other alt is a child of BTC connected to it. Ethereum is the Prince, the platform upon which developers will build so it will not have a valuation either. The companies built upon it should though. BTC/ETH are the brain childs' of decentralization there is much philosophy to their pricelessness. XRP is the coin of a centralized software company so it cannot be priceless.

You see BTC/ETH were brain childs' let loose to the world so they cannot have a set value, the people will control them. I know people who wouldn't sell a single one for a million dollars. BTC is the storage of wealth and Ethereum is the platform upon which many of these decentralized dividend paying start-ups will be created. In time I do believe they will break free from the miners and become completely decentralized as new breakthroughs happen. We shall see what happens. I am not sure of the short term or long term future of XRP.

Banks are not going to use a crypto coin.. quit being stupid.

Umm, what?! I just said that trying to do all of the demos and announcements we had originally planned to do at Consensus would have been difficult, so we did them before Consensus specifically to drive interest from potential partners at Consensus. That worked very well in driving interest at Consensus but also resulted in us not doing any major announcements during Consensus.

That's what happened. Originally, we were going to do the three new demos and the various announcements at Consensus. But because that would have been too much to do in a small amount of time, risked getting lost in other announcements in the space, and would have left interested people with little time to find us at Consensus, the strategy was changed to announce every few days before Consensus. I think this strategy worked well -- we had multiple concurrent meetings with potential partners through the entire conference. It would have worked better had I not implied that we would be releasing interesting new things during Consensus, and that's on me.