Rise of the Bitcoin detractors... - page 2.

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Quote from: BillyBobJoe on April 19, 2014, 10:03:57 AM

Quote from: franky1 on April 19, 2014, 07:09:27 AM

reasons to detract

1. gold hoarders noticing their customers are no longer buying gold from them, but buying bitcoin. thus they have to either lower gold price to tempt them back or discourage people from buying bitcoin

2. investors that want to buy coins cheaper then they are now, by causing panic sells using fud

3. people that have been scammed and are wrongly blaming bitcoin, instead of blaming the person/entity/business that scammed them

4. naive noobs that do not understand bitcoin and think its a ponzi, scam, pyramid.

i think the motives for being negative are

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)
but it must be noted that for every detractor there is a hell of alot more promoters

I am one of the new guys. The more time I spend here the less enthusiastic I become about BTC.

I came here, AS PART OF MY INTERNET SEARCH, to learn about BTC. I see this place is filled with jerks who have zero desire to help the new guys out, point them in the right direction, make sure their initial experience is positive.

Another thing that SHOCKED me was how little BTC is considered a currency and much it is considered an investment. Seems a large number of people here DO NOT use BTC as a currency, but spend their time in a circle jerk trying to see who will predict the highest BTC price/value in the shortest time frame. I've seen predictions of $10,000 by the end of the year. Really? Are some of you that stupid? One thread title makes me crack up, lierally LOL, it is so frecking funny. The thread about how you guys are the new wealth elite. Dreaming about how you will buy an island and live off your BTC holdings.

Look at this attitude I saw while writing this out "these bastards who dare to question bitcoin". This is the attitude I often see when a new guy questions any aspect of BTC.

I try to be polite, respectful, and helpful, unless someone is obviously trolling.
What questions do you have about Bitcoin that I might be of service to answer?

Thank you,

Jonald

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 19, 2014, 10:25:46 AM

no, they are paid shills - paid by the big corporations that think of us as stupid morons they can do everything with only because we live in a van down by the river.

Who's paying you to pimp out rapecoin? lol.

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 19, 2014, 09:34:27 AM

can't agree more my dear freedom fighters and intellectual elite friends. but one day, that's my promise, these bastards who dare to question bitcoin and our savior satoshi fuckimoto, i promise they will pay the bill. we'll hunt them down one by one and i swear to satoshi fukushima, auschwitz will look like a summer camp to them once we are finished with them.

best, we start already now by collecting names and documenting these cases of anti-bitcoinism. as our savior satoshi ayuhara once said: "war is peace. freedom is slavery. ignorance is strength."

I love Bitcoin detractors. I know, I know, it's a bit sadistic of me to take glee in people on the losing end, but what can you do, there are always more dumb people than intelligent ones

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no, they are paid shills - paid by the big corporations that think of us as stupid morons they can do everything with only because we live in a van down by the river.

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Quote from: blackhathasher on April 19, 2014, 12:30:11 AM

Is it just me or does there seem to be a campaign of bitcoin detractors posting here lately?

I am not going to name names... but a brief scan of the forums and you should be able to spot them...

There's always going to be naysayers and trolls. Probably just upset they lost or didnt make any money,

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Look at this attitude I saw while writing this out "these bastards who dare to question bitcoin". This is the attitude I often see when a new guy questions any aspect of BTC.

i cant speak for that poster but i think that was said in jest.

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Another thing that SHOCKED me was how little BTC is considered a currency and much it is considered an investment. Seems a large number of people here DO NOT use BTC as a currency, but spend their time in a circle jerk trying to see who will predict the highest BTC price/value in the shortest time frame. I've seen predictions of $10,000 by the end of the year. Really? Are some of you that stupid? One thread title makes me crack up, lierally LOL, it is so frecking funny. The thread about how you guys are the new wealth elite. Dreaming about how you will buy an island and live off your BTC holdings.

this may be a fair perception but keep in mind that is just the ass hat day trader crowd. fiat has far more of them... it's call wall st.

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I came here, AS PART OF MY INTERNET SEARCH, to learn about BTC. I see this place is filled with jerks who have zero desire to help the new guys out, point them in the right direction, make sure their initial experience is positive.

all you have to do is ask the right person. we are around!

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Quote from: franky1 on April 19, 2014, 07:09:27 AM

reasons to detract

1. gold hoarders noticing their customers are no longer buying gold from them, but buying bitcoin. thus they have to either lower gold price to tempt them back or discourage people from buying bitcoin

2. investors that want to buy coins cheaper then they are now, by causing panic sells using fud

3. people that have been scammed and are wrongly blaming bitcoin, instead of blaming the person/entity/business that scammed them

4. naive noobs that do not understand bitcoin and think its a ponzi, scam, pyramid.

i think the motives for being negative are

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)
but it must be noted that for every detractor there is a hell of alot more promoters

I am one of the new guys. The more time I spend here the less enthusiastic I become about BTC.

I came here, AS PART OF MY INTERNET SEARCH, to learn about BTC. I see this place is filled with jerks who have zero desire to help the new guys out, point them in the right direction, make sure their initial experience is positive.

Another thing that SHOCKED me was how little BTC is considered a currency and much it is considered an investment. Seems a large number of people here DO NOT use BTC as a currency, but spend their time in a circle jerk trying to see who will predict the highest BTC price/value in the shortest time frame. I've seen predictions of $10,000 by the end of the year. Really? Are some of you that stupid? One thread title makes me crack up, lierally LOL, it is so frecking funny. The thread about how you guys are the new wealth elite. Dreaming about how you will buy an island and live off your BTC holdings.

Look at this attitude I saw while writing this out "these bastards who dare to question bitcoin". This is the attitude I often see when a new guy questions any aspect of BTC.

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I think the rise of altcoins and their associated scams has had a spillover effect.

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can't agree more my dear freedom fighters and intellectual elite friends. but one day, that's my promise, these bastards who dare to question bitcoin and our savior satoshi fuckimoto, i promise they will pay the bill. we'll hunt them down one by one and i swear to satoshi fukushima, auschwitz will look like a summer camp to them once we are finished with them.

best, we start already now by collecting names and documenting these cases of anti-bitcoinism. as our savior satoshi ayuhara once said: "war is peace. freedom is slavery. ignorance is strength."

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Quote from: Guido on April 19, 2014, 07:38:44 AM

Quote from: franky1 on April 19, 2014, 07:09:27 AM

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)

agree with a lot of that
although I wouldn't put gold hoarders nowhere near that high or greedy investors

I think jealous people and also paid shills will contribute a lot of negativity

they dont need to pay shills. they just make 20 usernames and do it themself

Quote from: Guido on April 19, 2014, 07:38:44 AM

let's not forget how many government paid shills comment on mainstream news sites to waiver opinion
always suspected, but proven with the nsa revelations by snowden

governments dont care about bitcoin, infact UK/Europe/US/Canada are accepting of bitcoin. but banks (who are their own entity) do care and worry. and they are known gold holders. government dont own gold, banks do
banks=1. gold hoarders (25%)

Quote from: Guido on April 19, 2014, 07:38:44 AM

no doubt big bank and investment firm shills too

= 2. greedy investors (50%)

and like i said in red. the numbers are rough as some detractors fit into more then one category. th numbers are not statistics, so anyone saying they are wrong. is just knitpicking. but from my viewpoint of 'trolling fud' has been from people that are invested into bitcoin and want cheap coin hense the higher percentile and those that are on forums, youtube, etc. talking about gold is great and bitcoin is bad, is not so apparent in comparison. thus the lesser percentile.

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Quote from: Guido on April 19, 2014, 07:38:44 AM

Quote from: franky1 on April 19, 2014, 07:09:27 AM

reasons to detract

1. gold hoarders noticing their customers are no longer buying gold from them, but buying bitcoin. thus they have to either lower gold price to tempt them back or discourage people from buying bitcoin

2. investors that want to buy coins cheaper then they are now, by causing panic sells using fud

3. people that have been scammed and are wrongly blaming bitcoin, instead of blaming the person/entity/business that scammed them

4. naive noobs that do not understand bitcoin and think its a ponzi, scam, pyramid.

i think the motives for being negative are

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)
but it must be noted that for every detractor there is a hell of alot more promoters

agree with a lot of that
although I wouldn't put gold hoarders nowhere near that high or greedy investors

I think jealous people and also paid shills will contribute a lot of negativity
let's not forget how many government paid shills comment on mainstream news sites to waiver opinion
always suspected, but proven with the nsa revelations by snowden

no doubt big bank and investment firm shills too

Like that anonymint guy. Man if he wasn't a paid shill I don't know who is.

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i am of the conspiratorial mindset that these are corporate[bank] and government shills....

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Quote from: blackhathasher on April 19, 2014, 12:30:11 AM

Is it just me or does there seem to be a campaign of bitcoin detractors posting here lately?

I am not going to name names... but a brief scan of the forums and you should be able to spot them...

They're always new. Well, usually. Understand the chronology. They hear about Bitcoin. They're clueless and they hate it.

They go online to find a forum about it so they can sign up and talk trash.

Rarely (never?) will you see a detractor with a registration date before Feb 2103.

-B-

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Quote from: franky1 on April 19, 2014, 07:09:27 AM

reasons to detract

1. gold hoarders noticing their customers are no longer buying gold from them, but buying bitcoin. thus they have to either lower gold price to tempt them back or discourage people from buying bitcoin

2. investors that want to buy coins cheaper then they are now, by causing panic sells using fud

3. people that have been scammed and are wrongly blaming bitcoin, instead of blaming the person/entity/business that scammed them

4. naive noobs that do not understand bitcoin and think its a ponzi, scam, pyramid.

i think the motives for being negative are

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)
but it must be noted that for every detractor there is a hell of alot more promoters

agree with a lot of that
although I wouldn't put gold hoarders nowhere near that high or greedy investors

I think jealous people and also paid shills will contribute a lot of negativity
let's not forget how many government paid shills comment on mainstream news sites to waiver opinion
always suspected, but proven with the nsa revelations by snowden

no doubt big bank and investment firm shills too

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Personally, I say it would be a combination of the misinformed without a thorough knowledge of what their talking about and people who have been upset at either getting scammed when using BTC in a transaction or selling/buying at the wrong times and being frustrated with the current price.

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reasons to detract

1. gold hoarders noticing their customers are no longer buying gold from them, but buying bitcoin. thus they have to either lower gold price to tempt them back or discourage people from buying bitcoin

2. investors that want to buy coins cheaper then they are now, by causing panic sells using fud

3. people that have been scammed and are wrongly blaming bitcoin, instead of blaming the person/entity/business that scammed them

4. naive noobs that do not understand bitcoin and think its a ponzi, scam, pyramid.

i think the motives for being negative are

1. gold hoarders (25%)
2. greedy investors (50%)
3. scam victims (3%)
4. naive noobs (22%)

(rough numbers, not statistics)
but it must be noted that for every detractor there is a hell of alot more promoters

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Quote from: blackhathasher on April 19, 2014, 12:38:46 AM

oh i know that... but i am just observing what appears to be a surge...

perhaps Bitcoins juggernaut success is bringing the trolls out en masse ??

That seems quite plausible as a greater user base will contain more supporters and detractors. I think the downtrend from $1200 is playing a role, as well as the gox bankruptcy.

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oh i know that... but i am just observing what appears to be a surge...

perhaps Bitcoins juggernaut success is bringing the trolls out en masse ??

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There's always been detractors on this forum, even way back when btc cost less than a dollar. In fact some of those people from back then are still around now.

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