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October 12, 2020, 12:47:59 AM
#25
Phil, motherboards will be arriving today or tomorrow.  will this cpu work>Intel Celeron G4930 G- Series 3.20 GHz< finding it quite difficult to get locally sourced 6th/7th gen cpu's
thanks

edit*  dammit, just saw its 8th gen Sad
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October 11, 2020, 04:38:31 AM
#24
anyone have experience with the riserless Biostar Mining Board TB250-BTC D+

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=902#overview

will they run 7 x 5700 im total noob to all this and hesitant to buy and cards wont run on it.  have a asus B250(19GPU) motherboard that's slowly driving me insane.  


Mate the link you dropped isn't working, you should try fix that first and I don't advice running RX5700 cards next to each other without proper space and ventilation simply because these cards gets hot easily unless you are from snowy or cold areas like Chicago or so, risers are a must to keep the cards alive for years to come. Heats are the worst enemy of graphics cards
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October 09, 2020, 11:34:30 AM
#23
anyone have experience with the riserless Biostar Mining Board TB250-BTC D+

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=902#overview

will they run 7 x 5700 im total noob to all this and hesitant to buy and cards wont run on it.  have a asus B250(19GPU) motherboard that's slowly driving me insane.  



The problem with this type of motherboard is, it can not give the gpu a proper ventilation and also the cards place in a area that wont circulate and get the better airflow each cards, in the long run the oberheat problem will occur in this type of motherboard, the space is more important in gpu mining because it will produce excessive heat and it will give a high temp in all of the gpu.

Look if you alternate cards they work great.

no temp issues below and fans are not high at all

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October 09, 2020, 09:22:13 AM
#22
hi John, thanks for your comment.  yes, i believe running more than 4 gpu/per board will have issues.  quite happy to run 4gpu per Mboard, picking these(motherboards)up at very good price.  as soon as they in hand will update this thread on assembly
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October 09, 2020, 07:04:45 AM
#21
anyone have experience with the riserless Biostar Mining Board TB250-BTC D+

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=902#overview

will they run 7 x 5700 im total noob to all this and hesitant to buy and cards wont run on it.  have a asus B250(19GPU) motherboard that's slowly driving me insane. 



The problem with this type of motherboard is, it can not give the gpu a proper ventilation and also the cards place in a area that wont circulate and get the better airflow each cards, in the long run the oberheat problem will occur in this type of motherboard, the space is more important in gpu mining because it will produce excessive heat and it will give a high temp in all of the gpu.
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October 08, 2020, 06:13:29 PM
#20
ok Phil..got it!  ordering these biostar today delivery prob early in the next week.  if you don't mind will shout out once they have arrived and start assembly.  in the meantime all gear unpacked and waiting..

https://imgur.com/6EhoUnu
https://imgur.com/yJBstcd
https://imgur.com/CgcJdQP

Let me know how those GPU's fit.  I remember reading somewhere those motherboards had very little space between pci slots.

he is doing every other slot only four so they will fit well.

I checked all my boards and my three biostars are up in clifton nj about 65 miles from my house.

so far they are very stable.

i use g4400t cpus. one of the lowest power cpus for these boards.
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October 08, 2020, 02:48:50 PM
#19
ok Phil..got it!  ordering these biostar today delivery prob early in the next week.  if you don't mind will shout out once they have arrived and start assembly.  in the meantime all gear unpacked and waiting..

https://imgur.com/6EhoUnu
https://imgur.com/yJBstcd
https://imgur.com/CgcJdQP

Let me know how those GPU's fit.  I remember reading somewhere those motherboards had very little space between pci slots.
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October 08, 2020, 07:35:22 AM
#18
ok Phil..got it!  ordering these biostar today delivery prob early in the next week.  if you don't mind will shout out once they have arrived and start assembly.  in the meantime all gear unpacked and waiting..

https://imgur.com/6EhoUnu
https://imgur.com/yJBstcd
https://imgur.com/CgcJdQP
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October 07, 2020, 08:13:00 PM
#17
wow..been seeing your posts for a long time.  BTCtalk lucky in having such helpful members.  thank you kindly sir.  haven't purchased the biostar MB's yet but will update this thread with pics of my current gear already in hand in couple hrs...i do have apw3 and 7's along with 2 of these(full cable kit included)
https://www.evetech.co.za/antec-signature-1300w-platinum-power-supply/best-deal/8897.aspx

Nice they should have two full sets of eight pin each.

or 4 cables.  which you could use 1  of the four and make two good four pin cables.

hook up one of these antec psu’s and test the four pin with a meter.

You then know what pins are negative and postive.

you also know the board works.

Do you know how to start an atx with the jumper to the 24 pin cable.
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October 07, 2020, 07:30:51 PM
#16
wow..been seeing your posts for a long time.  BTCtalk lucky in having such helpful members.  thank you kindly sir.  haven't purchased the biostar MB's yet but will update this thread with pics of my current gear already in hand in couple hrs...i do have apw3 and 7's along with 2 of these(full cable kit included)
https://www.evetech.co.za/antec-signature-1300w-platinum-power-supply/best-deal/8897.aspx
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October 07, 2020, 07:16:51 PM
#15
thanks Phil, im planning on running 4 cards per Mboard(these rogs are thick and big) want to avoid any heat issues with cards stacked to close to each other.  ill post pics of gear in the morning(im on south african time lol) 

don't cut your hands when you cut the solid eight pin.

I used a big sharp knife for photos

but this tool Is better

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Folding-Utility-Quick-change-Included/dp/B015R0HTQ0/ref=sr_1_6?

can you link me your Asus  gpu's so I can figure best adapter for them?

https://www.evetech.co.za/asus-rog-strix-rx-5700-oc-8gb-gddr6-graphics-card/best-deal/6906.aspx



okay 8 pin + 6 pin

do 4 per board.

https://www.amazon.com/Graphics-Express-Splitter-Power-Extension/dp/B073M4643C/ref=sr_1_21?

these will work 1 direct from apw3+ to splitter above to one gpu

that takes 4 cables of the apw3+

you have six cables left from the apw3+

put all six into the inputs of the mobo


as long as you run the gpus at 125 watts or so the cables and board will hold.

Model   Clocks   Hashrate   Pwr   °C/Fan
   
0: His RX 5500 XT 8GB
113-D332
200/895
831mV   25.88 MH/s
1300mv/850mv   62 W   58°C / 51%
   
1: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB
xxx-xxx-xxx
1250/895
825mV   39.04 MH/s
1300mv/850mv   89 W   53°C / 68%
   
2: Msi RX 5700 XT 8GB
xxx-xxx-xxxx
1255/895
818mV   51.71 MH/s
1300mv/850mv   127 W   59°C / 100%
   
3: Msi RX 5600 XT 6GB
xxx-xxx-xxx
1255/895
837mV   39.04 MH/s
1300mv/850mv   89 W   59°C / 75%
   
4: His RX 5500 XT 8GB
113-D332
200/895
825mV   25.87 MH/s
1300mv/850mv   59 W   51°C /

these are stats from 1 rig using an apw3+

this is a rig doing 181mh and about 570 watts at the wall. it is very stable.

your rig should do closer to 200mh and maybe 630 watts at the wall
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October 07, 2020, 07:04:36 PM
#14
thanks Phil, im planning on running 4 cards per Mboard(these rogs are thick and big) want to avoid any heat issues with cards stacked to close to each other.  ill post pics of gear in the morning(im on south african time lol) 

don't cut your hands when you cut the solid eight pin.

I used a big sharp knife for photos

but this tool Is better

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Folding-Utility-Quick-change-Included/dp/B015R0HTQ0/ref=sr_1_6?

can you link me your Asus  gpu's so I can figure best adapter for them?

https://www.evetech.co.za/asus-rog-strix-rx-5700-oc-8gb-gddr6-graphics-card/best-deal/6906.aspx

legendary
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October 07, 2020, 07:01:48 PM
#13
thanks Phil, im planning on running 4 cards per Mboard(these rogs are thick and big) want to avoid any heat issues with cards stacked to close to each other.  ill post pics of gear in the morning(im on south african time lol)  

don't cut your hands when you cut the solid eight pin.

I used a big sharp knife for photos

but this tool Is better

https://www.amazon.com/WORKPRO-Folding-Utility-Quick-change-Included/dp/B015R0HTQ0/ref=sr_1_6?

can you link me your Asus  gpu's so I can figure best adapter for them?

These were nice boards they sold out fast I only got 3 used ones.

but the apw3+ psus were on hand and free.

I had a lot of spare cpu power cables.   Test test test once you build them as you want correct polarity

I had spare cpus
I had spare ram
I had spare wire adapters.

I only needed 12 cards well actually I think I did 5 on one of them so 13 cards.
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October 07, 2020, 06:58:48 PM
#12
Nice good info.  Can you skip powering the GPUS from the board and go straight to the PSU?

yes. you can go right to the gpu but you still need to go to the board since the risers need power.

you need 5 from an apw3+ psu to go to board

that will power the riser slots in the board.

you need to use the cable you just built. it plugs in next to the input risers on the board.

you can then use the 5 remaining apw3+ cables right into your gpus.

if you do the right gpus


these will adapt the six pin apw3 six pin
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-6-Pin-Adapter/dp/B01DV1Z32Y/ref=sr_1_1?

I like to use this gpu on those boards.

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5600-xt-axrx-5600-xt-6gbd6-3dhv2-oc/p/N82E16814131765?

it is an 8 pin
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October 07, 2020, 06:58:06 PM
#11
thanks Phil, im planning on running 4 cards per Mboard(these rogs are thick and big) want to avoid any heat issues with cards stacked to close to each other.  ill post pics of gear in the morning(im on south african time lol) 
legendary
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October 07, 2020, 06:51:27 PM
#10
the 8 pin cut side may have some pin/jack metal  exposed use some black tape.  it is safe as you are not pushing the shit out of the cpu.




test cable to be sure it is proper









so you can make 2 from this one.

with some electrical tape.
and a razor sharp knife
https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Detachable-EPS-12V-Motherboard-Adapter/dp/B07WNVFQ7X/ref=sr_1_13?


If you do this don't cut your hand and blame me.!
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October 07, 2020, 06:47:23 PM
#9
Nice good info.  Can you skip powering the GPUS from the board and go straight to the PSU?
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October 07, 2020, 06:30:10 PM
#8
a standard 8 pin cpu cable




pulled into two ends of 4 pins and the solid 8 pin





cut the solid 8 pin end with a razor or a sharp knife





depending on the  psu cable once cut you could be tangled


I cut one wire makes one whole cable and one cable you need to splice


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October 07, 2020, 05:56:35 PM
#7
Sorry for delay I got stuck for a while.



The shots below are not of your board but I have 3 of yours have to find shots.


here is how to fit 5 cards.

on 8 slot boards.  if you see just make card 4 be over sized. and card 5 be undersized

https://i.imgur.com/TwpdOAE.jpg


This board is not your board. Still looking for photos on your board.

the board below is a six slot with 4 cards.

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October 07, 2020, 01:25:58 PM
#6
I ordered four used on ebay. Three were good one had a few bent pins.
You can run  five cards easy peasy.

Bitmain psus will run it.

When I get home I will show you how to wire it.

You do  not need a ton of cables if you use fivecards.per board.

Give me an hour or two I will post photos.

that's awesome, huge thank you!
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