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sr. member
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June 15, 2018, 08:15:02 PM
#57
I don't see a big risk in holding strategy if you are in a rarely potential coins in the market now and if you got it from cheap price. The risk only is if you don't check it regularly if they are moving forward or they stop developing something like that. So far holding is the best strategy for a long period of time.
newbie
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June 15, 2018, 07:42:06 PM
#56
I lost way more money holding than i ever did doing the basic 'sell on upswings'.
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June 15, 2018, 07:29:00 PM
#55
First you must find good coins to invest.
Second, if you choose BTC or ETH, you should hold until the highest price. Price of other coins base on price of BTC and ETH.
10% of your money can invest other coins. That's safe strategy.
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June 15, 2018, 06:39:13 PM
#54
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June 15, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
#53
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June 15, 2018, 06:18:28 PM
#52
If you holding your investment it will never failed how many years are you hold your investment. If you expect in quick profit this is not a right time. But day traders also earn profit in every day so you should analyse the good coin definitely you will make profit in holding and short term trading little risk compare to holding so no one is agree with your point...
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June 15, 2018, 04:21:30 PM
#51
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this hodl is not as if it were a strategy that only brings good results, on the contrary it can be a knife and it can make the person lose all money, there are projects that have no application in real life that are just a temporary illusion, if you are going to invest for a long time is better to stay only with bitcoin or ETH, but other altcoins are very risky to invest in the long term something like 5 years for example. imagine investing in an altcoin for 5 years and after 5 years the altcoin have the price of 1 satoshi, this would be a disgust, so even I advise to invest in bitcoin for 5 years

inherently both have risk holding and trading as per the market conditions so we cant completely reply on holding for long-term and trading for long-term

I prefer the Hold for long term
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June 15, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
#50
It's just much healthier to trade. Holding in crypto can be a really hard mental task, even more than trading. When trading, as long as you are doing it right, you always set a stop loss, you know that even if you fail 1 or 2 trades, you only lose a set % of money, you can even lose 5 trades, 10, 20, it doesn't matter as long as you are using a good risk reward ratio.
Not only a hard mental task but also a very stressful thing on the same time. When you witnessed anytime on how the price swings either on bitcoin or on other altcoins in the market you will really be bothered when you check out prices.Holding do really give a positive thing but not anytime because most coins in the market doesnt have thave that potential to increase its price on longer runs.
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June 15, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
#49
inherently both have risk holding and trading as per the market conditions so we cant completely reply on holding for long-term and trading for long-term
legendary
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June 15, 2018, 01:44:11 PM
#48
That is not the strategy of the holder really. At least I am not looking after the whitepaper and stuff because I never invest in the ICO and then make holdings of those ICO tokens which are not even listed over the market.

I always hold those coins which are already listed in the market and are in good positions. These mostly includes coins from the list of Top 50 coins and some from beyond that. But only those who are getting good daily volume will be in my list for sure.

This makes the HODL very easy and way beyond perfect and risk free.

You invest long term in coins beacouse of current volume and position in marketcap. Its soo funny. I finaly met that guy who is alwais loosing money. I need to thank you. You are that guy who is buying coins from me few days beafore crash. You are buying from whales who pumped coins and sells on big volumens. And for hodl. Thats the funiest paart. In this tactick you can buy shitcoin without future with no chance to survive only because 1 whale pumped in on big volume. And you will hodl it untill 0...
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June 15, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
#47
Holding is somehow safer than trading but in business the higher the risk the higher the return always play out. To make really money and big profits from cryptocurrencies you must  take higher risk and this higher risk exist in margin and speculative trading. I see many investors make great profits from margin at poloniex and 1fox. However, holders has also make and loss their investments especially now that bitcoin and others coins price are not stable.

It depends on the situation, if you are going to look on the market prices today then it was very obvious that you should hold your coins right now more than trading on the market because the prices is drastically changing.
sr. member
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June 15, 2018, 01:36:39 PM
#46
Holding is somehow safer than trading but in business the higher the risk the higher the return always play out. To make really money and big profits from cryptocurrencies you must  take higher risk and this higher risk exist in margin and speculative trading. I see many investors make great profits from margin at poloniex and 1fox. However, holders has also make and loss their investments especially now that bitcoin and others coins price are not stable.
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June 15, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
#45
It's just much healthier to trade. Holding in crypto can be a really hard mental task, even more than trading. When trading, as long as you are doing it right, you always set a stop loss, you know that even if you fail 1 or 2 trades, you only lose a set % of money, you can even lose 5 trades, 10, 20, it doesn't matter as long as you are using a good risk reward ratio.
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June 15, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
#44
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June 15, 2018, 12:08:39 PM
#43
That is not the strategy of the holder really. At least I am not looking after the whitepaper and stuff because I never invest in the ICO and then make holdings of those ICO tokens which are not even listed over the market.

I always hold those coins which are already listed in the market and are in good positions. These mostly includes coins from the list of Top 50 coins and some from beyond that. But only those who are getting good daily volume will be in my list for sure.

This makes the HODL very easy and way beyond perfect and risk free.
legendary
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June 15, 2018, 12:00:39 PM
#42
You are trading, juggling your coins between addresses and exchanges. You're risking compromising your keys, need to worry about the security of your computer, network, the exchange that you're using.

Hodler also need to worry about the security of his computer.


Only if that computer is connected to the Internet. There are ways to protect your cold storage without too much hassle and among the easiest and safest is buying a machine that is only used to hold your cryptos and is most of the time offline, or completely powered off. I start it up once a week to check the balances and update wallets. It takes maybe 30 min and then it goes off for another week. I'd like to see someone hack it, that would require skills of Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible Grin
legendary
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June 15, 2018, 06:22:08 AM
#41
trading risk and risk holding more risk hold, because if you hold it you can hold the coin that you hold will run delist so it will make you loss if coin mean too long.
Only shit coins can get delisted and may end up making you bag hold for a very long time but you would want to be smart even as a holder anyway. In this market, everything is risky. Trading is risky because the market is extremely volatile and without knowledge and being cautious, you will end up getting screwed which you would end up even losing much more but with great knowledge, you certainly get the best of it.

All the above, holding is easy, as all you need is to do research on what you are holding, believe in the long term, forget about the mid fluctuations and come back in that long term to see how you have done. For holding, we do not need any big strategies and it may sound simple but definitely highly effective one.

I don't know why this myth is repeated so often. "Trading is risky because without experience you will loose".
So if newbie cames to the cryptoworld knowing that there is something like bitcoin and didnt even knowing what blockchain is can't trade on crypto because it need experience but for sure can do great research, read 40+ page whitepaper in english (it is not native language of every crypto investor), compare team, CODE, and finding out that this is great project, there isn't any better doing the same stuff, there isn't any project that will perhabs deliver working product faster. From first look he will know that some on statements in whatepaper are impossible to do etc?(it is very important because with 1600 coins currently and 1000+ new coins each year this market will for sure look totaly different after years) To invest first money he will have to read and understand at liest 50+ whitepapers (2000+ pages), get to know about 200-400+ cryptos to make good long term choise. I think good reaserch takes more time than learning trading.

If i would campere risk in trading and hodling i would compere unexperienced treader with unexperienced hodler (newbie in doing researches). And even chosing hodl tactick its good to have basic trading knowledge to knew that f.e. january 2018 was not the best moment for investition even if coin was great. Thats why in my opinion trading with lowest possible bet is best option for newbie. While trading learning about coin that newbie want to trade at. Get basing knowleg about various of coins and then jump to HARDER AND RISKIER hodling tactic.
legendary
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June 15, 2018, 02:05:19 AM
#40
trading risk and risk holding more risk hold, because if you hold it you can hold the coin that you hold will run delist so it will make you loss if coin mean too long.
Only shit coins can get delisted and may end up making you bag hold for a very long time but you would want to be smart even as a holder anyway. In this market, everything is risky. Trading is risky because the market is extremely volatile and without knowledge and being cautious, you will end up getting screwed which you would end up even losing much more but with great knowledge, you certainly get the best of it.

All the above, holding is easy, as all you need is to do research on what you are holding, believe in the long term, forget about the mid fluctuations and come back in that long term to see how you have done. For holding, we do not need any big strategies and it may sound simple but definitely highly effective one.
legendary
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June 14, 2018, 07:13:56 AM
#39
You are trading, juggling your coins between addresses and exchanges. You're risking compromising your keys, need to worry about the security of your computer, network, the exchange that you're using.

Hodler also need to worry about the security of his computer.

I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.
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Lol, actually at some point we have all ended up having that bad experience but really you cannot blame anyone who is into holding because it is simply hard to understand the movement of the market if you are not a learned trader and you would not want to be gambling your position as that can actually give room for more mistakes and make you lose more.

This personally made me to go through serious trading lessons on my own and it took so much time to get it right and a whole lot worth it as it is far better than just holding through. Trends will always change in between, and it is best to always take advantage of those trend fluctuations.

Im sceptical to trends. Maybe becouse every asset i entered in uptrend it break it after few days to go to downtrend for weeks (my experience with trends U can have oposit). Trends are telling you that now we are moving up. But it dasnt tell you when it will change. And it can change everyday. Thats why i decidet to never invest only by trendlines. I rather try to find assets relatively cheap (if today something is cheap it dasnt mean that it is also cheap tommorow with the same price). For example if something was worth 100$ yesterday and 70$ today ill call it cheep. If price will stop at this price for next few days its normal price not cheap anymore. If it dasnt bounce perhaps it wont (very short term investments). For longterm investments i rather look for FA instead of TA.
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June 13, 2018, 07:03:18 AM
#38
I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.
Lol, actually at some point we have all ended up having that bad experience but really you cannot blame anyone who is into holding because it is simply hard to understand the movement of the market if you are not a learned trader and you would not want to be gambling your position as that can actually give room for more mistakes and make you lose more.

This personally made me to go through serious trading lessons on my own and it took so much time to get it right and a whole lot worth it as it is far better than just holding through. Trends will always change in between, and it is best to always take advantage of those trend fluctuations.
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