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December 21, 2023, 02:38:56 PM
Unsure of the direction of this thread but if you are saying that governments put in controls to help people I'd say it's minimal and I don't see an issue with that.  It's like smoking cigarettes, not much countries are doing about that addiction either.  I'd say it revolves mostly around all of the money they rake in from people's addicitions it's sad.
The government may promote responsible gambling but they never really make extra miles to control gambling addiction. It's like once you fall into gambling addiction, at least you should know how to get up and be responsible enough to manage your gambling addiction. As long as the government continues to discourage gambling addiction to the people, I think that action for them is already good enough. Without realizing that a lot of gamblers fall into gambling addiction because the government lacks in providing job opportunities for these gamblers that's why they turn into gambling to find a source of income.
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December 21, 2023, 02:07:47 PM

While children's gambling habits can still be monitored by their parents, it becomes difficult when adults fall addicted to gambling.
In most cases, their family only identifies the habit when he has already become addicted to it.
The best thing is to do is for the individual to become self aware and manage the risk appetite.
Either we should become responsible towards gambling or never gamble at all.

But on the other hand not always all parents can fully supervise any activity carried out by their children, there will always be situations where parents are quite careless or there may even be some parents who do not pay too much attention to their children, another thing is that if parents really know that their children are involved in gambling then I think it is likely that they will immediately stop the activity carried out by their children, and not instead supervise the gambling carried out by their children. After all gambling as a whole is bad because of the significant impact it can have and obviously it can put children's futures at risk.

I think your scenario is a little upside down, where you say that adults are more difficult to overcome in gambling problems, we must understand the difference in character between children and adults, where children are still very unstable and have a very high level of curiosity about anything including gambling, while those who are adults already have common sense, which means they can fully distinguish between good and bad. So in terms of recovery and change for the better I think adults are easier to overcome than small children who are still very unstable in their thinking, for example maybe you have also seen some small children who cry when their wishes are not approved by their parents.

But overall there is absolutely nothing good about the two characters above if indeed both are involved in gambling, of course, however gambling is an activity that is not recommended because of the bad effects that can occur at any time, that's right, one of the things that must be done by the people around him is to try various things to restore his awareness so that he can understand the dangers of gambling.
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December 21, 2023, 12:42:06 PM
Since the government doesn't have equipment that can detect or find addicted gamblers around society, they may not be able to reduce or restrict addicted players from gambling. The ball is in the court of the gambler, as he wasn't moved by the government to join gambling. However, it's more of a thing of the society or the environment of the person. Where we grew up has its government and they may have been common with gambling. Hence growing up the person wouldn't have any difficulty choosing gambling as a hobby or money-making scheme. If the government warns against gambling addiction with banners and sets up campaigns around the streets, it may only raise awareness among citizens, and whatever promo is done by the government gets people talking and younger people can then begin to hear about gambling even toddlers.

I think the right option is for the government to align with parents to help them notify the nearest health care center or rehabilitation centers once their ward begins to have abstract behavior, caused by anything; gambling or not. Youths are suffering from different mental sicknesses fueled by unemployment, heartbreaks, loss of a loved one, etc. These things contribute to mental disorders or even Bipolar and if the person involves himself in games like gambling he'd easily get addicted. If parents pay close attention to their wards or children they'll be able to detect a behavior change, maybe the child is beginning to ask for money all the time. Engaging him in a technical parent-child conversation can be a good tool in determining the problem of the child, and then they can work on treatment. Citizens are also a part of the government, without the people, there would be no government. So, we must learn to work alongside the government in stopping gambling addiction and all forms of addiction in society.
The government's role in gambling addiction is complicated. Our legislators must defend public health, but their reach is limited. Your thesis about society influencing gambling is correct. Certain actions were accepted in our upbringing, affecting our views and choices. Not merely warning about dangers, but identifying the core reasons.

As you say, parent collaboration may be crucial. Many parents notice changes in their children's conduct first. They can prevent addiction first. Effective communication and awareness are key to this technique. Parents must know how to spot gambling addiction and get help.

Gambling addiction demands complex treatment. The community, not just the government or parents, is involved. Educational, supportive, and accessible mental health treatments are needed to address this issue. Never underestimate the power of collective action to improve society.

Collective action works faster in all consequences of life, leaving the work for the government wouldn't get us anywhere. Gambling is vast and banning gambling can't help in stopping gamblers from getting addicted. The government can only attend to people they found in the hospital, then try to administer therapy and cure them from the addiction. If society or parents keep hoarding their wards at home, hoping to see a positive result someday, the child will face a more difficult time, trying to survive his addiction. Nobody can detect a gambling addiction in a person faster than a close friend, parents, or the gambler himself. The government is far from handling such a task. An addict will hardly share his experience with his loved ones unless they engage him in a conversation. The educational sectors are also needed, as you said.

Students are beginning to participate in online gambling, and for a while now, it's become a norm for underage citizens to gamble. This only happens because schools don't look into the lives of students. In today's world, parents hardly spend time with kids, they work hard to generate to clear daily bills. Kids or students spend most of their time in school. When the administration, cautions children about bad gambling experiences and teaches them with examples, it can help reduce the high rate of underage gamblers. Our society is facing lots of problems due to a lack of collaboration from the numerous sectors in charge of citizens and growing kids. The general public only puts it that gambling is bad, without any proof or extra teachings on ways people can avoid being compulsive gamblers or sharing the useful parts of gambling with grown gamblers. Prevention is better than cure, if we can keep ourselves from getting addicted, then no need to fear about the complex treatment of gambling addiction.
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December 21, 2023, 11:56:25 AM
The government's role in gambling addiction is complicated. Our legislators must defend public health, but their reach is limited. Your thesis about society influencing gambling is correct. Certain actions were accepted in our upbringing, affecting our views and choices. Not merely warning about dangers, but identifying the core reasons.

As you say, parent collaboration may be crucial. Many parents notice changes in their children's conduct first. They can prevent addiction first. Effective communication and awareness are key to this technique. Parents must know how to spot gambling addiction and get help.

Gambling addiction demands complex treatment. The community, not just the government or parents, is involved. Educational, supportive, and accessible mental health treatments are needed to address this issue. Never underestimate the power of collective action to improve society.

While children's gambling habits can still be monitored by their parents, it becomes difficult when adults fall addicted to gambling.
In most cases, their family only identifies the habit when he has already become addicted to it.
The best thing is to do is for the individual to become self aware and manage the risk appetite.
Either we should become responsible towards gambling or never gamble at all.
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December 21, 2023, 09:03:25 AM

I agree gambling addiction and gaming addiction are different.
Yes because you can be addicted to game without risking money, while in gambling, there's always money involved.

But any addiction could be cured if you would help yourself, it is always up to you to make the change.
Because no matter how many chance you get to change or stop your addiction it is useless unless you really want to stop.
Changed always comes from ourself others might help you change, but it is up to you if you really want to stop your addiction or be consumed by it.

no, not all the time as not everyone are capable of correcting their own mistakes. There are gamblers who have severe addiction, they don't know what they are doing anymore as all they do is to follow their urge, that, they can't cure themselves but they need some help either from their family or to the experts.
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December 21, 2023, 08:45:18 AM
Responsible gambling is not the same as responsible gaming. You can play game to gamble but you can also play game not to gamble.

Governments and several organisations work to encourage responsible gaming. This involves establishing betting restrictions, offering support to those who think they have a gambling problem, and participating in self-exclusion programmes.
Your post is just like a conclusion and does not worth it at all.

Just take note that the government do not care. It is you that will go for the option of self exclusion, not the government that will do that for you. And the best way you can help yourself is to discipline yourself.

If you go to Africa, Asia, South America and many other countries, you will see that gambling is more regulated in a way that tax are collected to the government, also in other countries, but some countries still regulate gambling more than the way some other countries do.
I agree gambling addiction and gaming addiction are different.
But any addiction could be cured if you would help yourself, it is always up to you to make the change.
Because no matter how many chance you get to change or stop your addiction it is useless unless you really want to stop.
Changed always comes from ourself others might help you change, but it is up to you if you really want to stop your addiction or be consumed by it.
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December 21, 2023, 08:16:27 AM
We think that risk management is insanely beneficial for those players, who are feeling irresponsible about gambling.
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December 21, 2023, 07:57:30 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.

I hope that's why others think, gambling is a personal choice, it's there for us to have fun and maybe try our luck but it was never recommended to be considered as a way to change our financial aspect in a positive way. Although there are some who were successful in gambling, like sports bettors and card players, but let us not forget they have the skills and are exceptional, we aren't.

The governmnet will keep what they could benefit, and since gambling industry is a billion dollar industry, it could only mean that it's too much to sacrifice for them.
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December 21, 2023, 06:53:31 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.

Since the government doesn't have equipment that can detect or find addicted gamblers around society, they may not be able to reduce or restrict addicted players from gambling. The ball is in the court of the gambler, as he wasn't moved by the government to join gambling. However, it's more of a thing of the society or the environment of the person. Where we grew up has its government and they may have been common with gambling. Hence growing up the person wouldn't have any difficulty choosing gambling as a hobby or money-making scheme. If the government warns against gambling addiction with banners and sets up campaigns around the streets, it may only raise awareness among citizens, and whatever promo is done by the government gets people talking and younger people can then begin to hear about gambling even toddlers.

I think the right option is for the government to align with parents to help them notify the nearest health care center or rehabilitation centers once their ward begins to have abstract behavior, caused by anything; gambling or not. Youths are suffering from different mental sicknesses fueled by unemployment, heartbreaks, loss of a loved one, etc. These things contribute to mental disorders or even Bipolar and if the person involves himself in games like gambling he'd easily get addicted. If parents pay close attention to their wards or children they'll be able to detect a behavior change, maybe the child is beginning to ask for money all the time. Engaging him in a technical parent-child conversation can be a good tool in determining the problem of the child, and then they can work on treatment. Citizens are also a part of the government, without the people, there would be no government. So, we must learn to work alongside the government in stopping gambling addiction and all forms of addiction in society.
The government's role in gambling addiction is complicated. Our legislators must defend public health, but their reach is limited. Your thesis about society influencing gambling is correct. Certain actions were accepted in our upbringing, affecting our views and choices. Not merely warning about dangers, but identifying the core reasons.

As you say, parent collaboration may be crucial. Many parents notice changes in their children's conduct first. They can prevent addiction first. Effective communication and awareness are key to this technique. Parents must know how to spot gambling addiction and get help.

Gambling addiction demands complex treatment. The community, not just the government or parents, is involved. Educational, supportive, and accessible mental health treatments are needed to address this issue. Never underestimate the power of collective action to improve society.
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December 21, 2023, 05:56:08 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.

Since the government doesn't have equipment that can detect or find addicted gamblers around society, they may not be able to reduce or restrict addicted players from gambling. The ball is in the court of the gambler, as he wasn't moved by the government to join gambling. However, it's more of a thing of the society or the environment of the person. Where we grew up has its government and they may have been common with gambling. Hence growing up the person wouldn't have any difficulty choosing gambling as a hobby or money-making scheme. If the government warns against gambling addiction with banners and sets up campaigns around the streets, it may only raise awareness among citizens, and whatever promo is done by the government gets people talking and younger people can then begin to hear about gambling even toddlers.

I think the right option is for the government to align with parents to help them notify the nearest health care center or rehabilitation centers once their ward begins to have abstract behavior, caused by anything; gambling or not. Youths are suffering from different mental sicknesses fueled by unemployment, heartbreaks, loss of a loved one, etc. These things contribute to mental disorders or even Bipolar and if the person involves himself in games like gambling he'd easily get addicted. If parents pay close attention to their wards or children they'll be able to detect a behavior change, maybe the child is beginning to ask for money all the time. Engaging him in a technical parent-child conversation can be a good tool in determining the problem of the child, and then they can work on treatment. Citizens are also a part of the government, without the people, there would be no government. So, we must learn to work alongside the government in stopping gambling addiction and all forms of addiction in society.
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December 20, 2023, 12:29:55 PM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.

The money that revolves in casinos is huge, and if the government legalizes more than 10 casino situations for example in the country then obviously the amount that the government gets from the calculation of all taxes provided by casinos every year is no joke,  the amount is very large. There was once a case in my country where one of the small casinos was caught by the authorities and when they entered the interrogation room they  said that the amount of income they could get in a month could buy 10 houses in urban areas in my area which is of course clear the amount they get from  many gamblers involved especially those who lose is very high.

As you said, not only taxing the casinos but also the people involved in  gambling as a condition for the legality of  gambling in the eyes of the public, so of course this is a new income place for the government with a huge amount of tax, so it means that it will not be that easy for the government to consider opening a rehabilitation  center for addicts, however this is a big advantage, and I'm sure some people  acting in the government will maintain this situation, many rats will continue to dive while drinking water. On the other hand I hope you the public can just think more realistically in situations like this..
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December 20, 2023, 11:53:46 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

There's no benefit to the government by actually stopping gambling. In fact, they make lots of money by taxing gambling income.
They not only tax citizens for gambling income but also tax gambling operators for running casinos.
So its only in the hands of the individual if he wants to quit his gambling addiction.
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December 20, 2023, 11:53:04 AM
Some countries support gambling and some countries do not support gambling. Gambling is outright prohibited in countries that have Muslim pay, but there are many countries outside of Muslim countries that prohibit gambling. In countries where gambling is allowed, you can easily find different casinos, but in countries where gambling is not allowed, far from casinos, there is more negative publicity about gambling. I only said what could happen officially but there are many five star hotels which operate secret casinos and there are huge numbers of people gambling secretly. Those who are addicted to gambling, there is no real deterrent, they will either go to the casino or gamble at home.
I think there are plenty of Christian places that ban it too, or Israel (the only Jewish majority nation I know) bans it too. So it is not really about a specific religion, it is just that governments do not allow that one way or another. There are some nations that do allow it, but not because of religious reasons but for monetary reasons as well.

Las Vegas allows it for example, and it is not like we are talking about something that will change that very much, I believe that we need to talk about something like why the other states do not then, it is not the nation, it is just a periodical thing and at that period they did that. So all in all, we need to realize that it is going to change from time to time based on who wants what at that time.
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December 19, 2023, 11:58:36 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

At all times there have been people who need help, and rehabilitation centers can provide help not only to people with gambling addiction, but also to people with other problems. Most often we see that rehabilitation centers are a separate segment from the state, respectively, which cannot be free of charge.

The state, instead of helping people, just replenishes its coffers. I think it's clear to everyone where this will lead. 

Are rehabilitation centers for gambling addicts are helpful? Do they play their part that gamblers will not take undue risk and follow the money management?

Risk management in gambling is very important but i do not think any third party centers can really help the gamblers. Even if the rehabilitation centres claim to reform the gamblers, but gamblers seek them when they are already addicted.
I do not know if anyone who starts gambling and is admitted in the rehabilitation centres to seek help. Some gamblers may join them but when they have already addicited or incurred a lot of loss.
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December 19, 2023, 11:46:22 AM
In my opinion almost all steps that states take to "protect" gamblers have no real benefit. If they wanted to really help people with gambling addiction, they could open more free rehabilitation centers, advertise them on central television, launch information campaigns that would explain the negative consequences of mindless gambling. All this costs money, which will have to be allocated from the budget, so they simply do not make real steps, but only create the appearance of hard work.

It doesn't look good if they will open a rehabilitation centers of addicted gamblers as it will only imply that addiction has already become rampant.

Gambling is controllable by the government, since they regulated it, they have the right to ban it, or consider it as illegal. However, seeing the money that flows to the funding of the government, they can't make that kind of decision to stop, so it's really unto us now, either we become responsible, or be on the other side and experience the effect of addiction, after all the government doesn't care about us since gambling is not a necessity.

At all times there have been people who need help, and rehabilitation centers can provide help not only to people with gambling addiction, but also to people with other problems. Most often we see that rehabilitation centers are a separate segment from the state, respectively, which cannot be free of charge.

The state, instead of helping people, just replenishes its coffers. I think it's clear to everyone where this will lead. 
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December 19, 2023, 11:38:51 AM
Each government think difficultly. Some governments will allow gambling for generating tax for them, some governments prevent their citizens from gambling but allow for foreigners only and some governments totally restricted gambling in their countries. But no government can totally stop gambling as there are many ways for gamblers to bypass. So better to work for awareness so that a gambler can become responsible. I like the self exclusion idea and related organization who work for Gambling. This could be important initial step in helping gamblers to control their gambling. If a gambler is dedicative enough then addiction in gambling could be solve. Otherwise there's no problem with responsible gambler who just gambling for entertainment with limit
Liberty means letting people do what they must and the government is there to prevent a chaos, so the question is that would gambling create chaos? I mean in some cases it may, but we see Las Vegas in USA and do we think that they are in chaos because of that?

I mean they ARE in chaos recently to be fair for the past 10 years or so, but I do not see how that's relevant to Las Vegas, or Atlantic city. Or just look at Monaco, they are such a huge nation and gambling is allowed.

There are many places where gambling is allowed, and government has absolutely nothing to worry about, does this mean it can be allowed everywhere? Of course not, some nations are a bit more religious, and if you insist on religion to rule your country, then I am sorry but you won't have any casinos at all, imagine a casino in the middle of Saudi Arabian capital, of course you can't even imagine it, but how come a huge casino at Berlin could be bad? Or Paris? It just doesn't really change anything and doesn't hurt the nation.
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December 19, 2023, 11:38:16 AM
You're right and those stuff that you're saying is obvious already but I have to say that it's not really a good idea to say that external support is useless even if the person that's addicted or needs help in stopping from gambling doesn't want to help themselves. As much as we want all to emphasize that the right thing to happen is for a person to have the will to stop themselves in gambling, a constant support from their loved ones is a good thing even during those denial periods because that could be a factor in speeding up the process because the person that's being supported would find it in their heart to give them what their family wants and try to do a recovery.


Yes, it's like that, the best motivation is from within yourself. Just like when we first tried to gamble, we must also have the responsibility to try to stop. but of course stopping is sometimes not as easy as starting. I've had a few mistakes before, when people warned me not to play too long when winning, but I always played to the end of winning only to end up losing. From this, I feel that I must take full responsibility, both for playing and for stopping gambling. That's why I say input from other people can be useless if we don't follow it and there is rejection from ourselves

Both parties are needed in curing gambling addiction because an addict can't be able to help himself alone without the help of loved ones, but if the loved ones try to help a gambler and he doesn't want to help himself, the whole effort would be useless. If a person isn't determined to stop gambling no amount of therapist would be able to stop him. Therapy is a kind of relationship between the addict and the therapist, if the relationship is not established then no effort would be achieved. The same applies to his loved ones, as they can also act as his therapist, but if the relationship is not there, the concept of therapy won't be achieved. What relationship is it, the need for the therapist and the addict to discuss like friends, ways to stop his addiction. Healing or curing addiction is not about advising the person. The player has to open up to the next person about the things that made him suffer from addiction and how long he's been suffering from the problem.

So, in a situation where the gambler wants to leave gambling, he may not be able to do it on his own, as he can't help it, the brain is now focused mainly on gambling. And most times he may not be able to recognize his actions or decisions. His only escape route out of addiction would be his loved ones. These people can then initiate therapy sessions and help him endeavor to attend his classes with the therapist. He'll also need them to limit him on certain activities, and introduce him to other demanding tasks like sports or volleyball, even associating him with some helpful organization that'll help him to speak up when in trouble. In your case, Masulum, you were still on the recoverable stage of gambling, that's why you were able to stop gambling. I don't think you were addicted. As addiction is too difficult to heal.
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December 19, 2023, 11:11:12 AM
Unsure of the direction of this thread but if you are saying that governments put in controls to help people I'd say it's minimal and I don't see an issue with that.  It's like smoking cigarettes, not much countries are doing about that addiction either.  I'd say it revolves mostly around all of the money they rake in from people's addicitions it's sad.
Yes, I can honestly assume that the government would be wasting money if it opened services for people addicted to gambling, if you think about it, it is risky, as if gambling is indirectly encouraged by the government towards its citizens.
Yes it's true that it's like cigarettes, and even if it is, the mechanism is very similar, so the government requires that every casino that operates is the one who organizes the treatment if someone is affected by gambling addiction, and I also see it on many cigarette packs in my country.

But setting a minimum amount, it will interfere with someone in their gambling activities who may play much lower than what has been determined.

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December 19, 2023, 10:59:13 AM

On the other hand what you said could be true that although the casino's goal is quite humane by providing the best service with the aim of reducing the level of addiction for the community but it is not wrong if we put a little suspicion about whether there is no other goal that is targeted and focused on by the casino itself. Hmm yes maybe I can also say that this is a new marketing style that will indirectly attract more customers because they feel they will stay safe with such services.

I don't think that the main purpose of casinos doing this is to increase revenue, because obviously the services they provide are to reduce the level of addiction which means that with the reduced interest of gamblers to gamble then obviously in terms of casino revenue will also definitely decrease, but what is more certain is that I think this is a new marketing style to increase the popularity of the casino itself to be more trusted in the eyes of the public.

Apart from this, in my country cigarette companies also open smoking cessation services for cigarette addicts who want to quit. Previously, they were pessimistic and thought what the heck this company was doing, instead it was acting ridiculously. However, after I researched it, after this service appeared, the number of cigarettes in circulation remained the same and actually increased, even many underage children in my country were smoking.

Considering the high cost of advertising on television, this smoking cessation service is like a new style of advertising that can be conveyed to other people, even non-smokers, through word of mouth. And I imagine if this happened in gambling, it would be the same, wouldn't it?

Well after reading your ideas and assumptions about banning people from smoking honestly I remembered something and I found the reason why cigarette companies in your country provide rehabilitation services for addicted people to quit or just reduce it, I explain a little here that they sell cigarettes and maybe if you are also a smoker then I think you have seen that in the cigarette package there is a warning along with a picture that shows the dangers of smoking for health, so that means they sell but make a statement like prohibiting people from buying, for some people it may seem like a silly and unreasonable way of doing business, but the main point here and what we don't realize is that there are two kinds of income that can be generated by cigarette or gambling companies, first they get income from people who buy cigarettes or people who are involved in gambling as usual and the second is that they also get money from addicted  people who will certainly choose to enter the services provided by the company.

This doesn't really affect the number of people involved, because even though they know the dangers,  the company will still promote to keep the balance of the audience coming and even more. I think it's more of a new style of marketing that people don't think about what's behind what the company is doing.
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December 19, 2023, 10:39:42 AM
OP, I have been gambling for more than 6 years now and yet have not turned myself into a compulsive gambler. I think it's the paramount responsibility of every man to always have self-control over what they are doing.

There are a lot of gamblers who are still responsible gamblers, and some other gamblers are also irresponsible, but the only difference between those two types of gamblers is that one has self-control and has never allowed themselves to become addicted.

Even if the government must develop any program to help encourage responsible gambling, a gambler must always be positive-minded and exercise self-control in their gambling lifestyles so that they will prevent themselves from becoming compulsive gamblers or having other gambling-related problems, like the OP said.

Their are many gamblers like you,they will play longer in the gambling site.But don’t get addicted to the gambling site,their was huge difference between the gamblers who get addiction and gamblers who play for the longer term.If the gamblers had the self control like you said,then he doesn’t have the problem by getting addicted to the gambling site.The responsibility in the gambling site was depend upon on every single gambler,because some gamblers had take own responsibility of the game.Some countries may ban the gambling site,in such site the gamblers will play with out the knowledge of their own family members.Even their relatives may report him for the gambling involvement to the government officials for small rewards.
It all depends on how each gambler behaves and can be responsible for every gambling activity carried out.
Indeed, gambling addicts will be very different from gamblers who are just having fun and looking for entertainment. If we talk about the long term then anything is possible because gambling addicts will also use various methods to keep betting.
Gambling addicts can borrow money or even sell all the valuables they own for certain amount of money and can continue playing without the problem of lack of capital.
If you do further research, gambling addicts will be braver and also be able to optimize the use of money in gambling because they think what they are doing is the most appropriate.

I don't think gambling addict can have self-control and those who have self-control are also not included in the group of addicts because they can always stay within the limits that have been determined.
Moreover, gambling addicts cannot be separated from gambling activities even for short time because in their minds there is only gambling, betting and fighting for victory.
This is the attitude that always exists and occurs towards all gambling addicts.

Not all countries that prohibit gambling will actually implement the prohibition and some of these countries still exempt gambling with the required taxes.
Similar things happen in many countries.
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