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December 17, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I do not really think that those pump and dump groups are organized by the whales, because an investor that is truly a whale doesn't really need anyone to pump and to dump the market, those groups are organized by dishonest people that buy huge quantities of a coin that no one really knows and they do it in such a way to not make the price to go up while at the same time they organize their group and when they are finally ready they tell their members of the group in which coin to invest, which is by the way the same coin that they have been buying for months, so pump and dump groups are not organized by whales but by scammers.
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December 14, 2019, 08:31:24 AM
I have written an article comparing Signals and Trading bots: https://tradingbot.info/bot-101/trading-bots-vs-trading-signals/
Both signals and bots allow you to trade without special knowledge, but I think that bots is a more time-saving and stable option.
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December 14, 2019, 06:35:32 AM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
I have joined some trading signals and they seems legit , and sometimes helpful , why sometimes? Because there are times that they send signals too delay , but the only risk is the delay of time you need to monitor keenly the coins for you to sell in a good timing and price.

And most of them seems legit in the beginning, at least the signal providers I followed for some time. I never took any signal for granted, its important to check every information you got from any place in crypto, its full with scammers, people with wrong intentions. Sometimes good turn to be bad is what I wish to say, and that happens more often then people think it does.
In past few months I don't follow any trading signals, most of them are short time signals which are very risky, this market situation made me to have some mid term positions and even long, then to have short ones. Market is volatile, and for now there are no signs of recovery.
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December 14, 2019, 06:11:11 AM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
I have joined some trading signals and they seems legit , and sometimes helpful , why sometimes? Because there are times that they send signals too delay , but the only risk is the delay of time you need to monitor keenly the coins for you to sell in a good timing and price.
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December 13, 2019, 05:38:24 PM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals.
Yes, it can be a sort of but we can't just rely on it. If we are aiming to succeed and become an expert trader, we have to build our own backyard, put extra effort to find strategies that we could use in our daily trade and not just keeping those signals that even it is coming from reliable source. Cause anything we do will also reflect us. Having those signals won't give us an assurance that could give us a long-term effectivity.
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December 13, 2019, 03:56:03 PM
Depending on the signal provider, some trading signals seem reliable, while most are actually not. The risk of using trading signals solely depends on the individual. I think analyzing the market yourself is the best, so, as to differentiate between good and bad signals when you eventually use trade signals.
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December 13, 2019, 03:48:20 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
Agree, I do not use any trading signals or being part of their group because I believe that not all of the signals from them are true ,sometimes it will be a bait for us to buy their order , and also they will required us to pay for premium membership fee, though we can be good enough in trading we just need to study all the things so that we can be an expert trader.
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December 13, 2019, 11:44:20 AM

Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I believe that almost every cryptocurrency user who has been engaged in this activity for a considerable time and has experience in cryptocurrency trading knows that any trading signals do not give the desired result.  At least the existence of these signals has only one purpose, which is aimed at ensuring that specific people or groups of traders get the benefit, and not the user who decided to use the information for a successful transaction.  I have never seen information that someone really talked about the results obtained thanks to the signals, and all such discussions not only raise doubts, but are also aimed at drawing attention to these trading signals.

Yeah actually most of the trading signals group are the pumping group because they will together doing mass buy or sell to drop the price. If the trading signals group has big and solid members i'm sure it could move the price of a coin especially coins with low volume.
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December 13, 2019, 11:41:56 AM

Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
I believe that almost every cryptocurrency user who has been engaged in this activity for a considerable time and has experience in cryptocurrency trading knows that any trading signals do not give the desired result.  At least the existence of these signals has only one purpose, which is aimed at ensuring that specific people or groups of traders get the benefit, and not the user who decided to use the information for a successful transaction.  I have never seen information that someone really talked about the results obtained thanks to the signals, and all such discussions not only raise doubts, but are also aimed at drawing attention to these trading signals.
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December 12, 2019, 06:51:04 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
We should avoid trading any assets with less trading volume because the prices can be easily manipulated for that bump and dump groups will be enough.When a token follow this way then the end of that project's potential is not too far, sometimes it happens with the good projects as well but not every project which has good idea doesn't need to be successful so be smart as trader and don't trust these shitty groups which will trap you at one point.
These pump and dump groups are played by whales. Due to the fact that they influential in the market it is easy for them to take noob as their prey. Following signals in trading is really high risk and the big possibility of losing that is why most traders won't make this as a helping tool to become profitable and succeed in trading cause most signal users are suffering loose ends.
Agreed, these pump and dumping groups were used as a manipulative tool by the whales who always tries to make use of the market according to their needs. This is possible to certain level, and to attain the same various tactics were played, and what we experience out of the trading signals is one way. Apart from this practices like negative news circulation, hacks and some panic statements will be revealed without any perfect data.
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December 12, 2019, 05:46:54 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
We should avoid trading any assets with less trading volume because the prices can be easily manipulated for that bump and dump groups will be enough.When a token follow this way then the end of that project's potential is not too far, sometimes it happens with the good projects as well but not every project which has good idea doesn't need to be successful so be smart as trader and don't trust these shitty groups which will trap you at one point.
These pump and dump groups are played by whales. Due to the fact that they influential in the market it is easy for them to take noob as their prey. Following signals in trading is really high risk and the big possibility of losing that is why most traders won't make this as a helping tool to become profitable and succeed in trading cause most signal users are suffering loose ends.
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December 12, 2019, 05:46:24 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.
If having a losing trade after losing trade and losing money that they cannot really afford to lose does not wake them up then I am not really positive that an article on an Internet forum is going to be enough to make people to change their believes about the markets, it may seem weird but people prefer to lose their money doing things their way than to admit their mistake and try everything that they can in order to change those senseless mistakes.
You cant tell because people do have different mindsets towards things but mostly they dont really care enough on any articles or books
that do mentioned out recreation or advises.You are right where majority find things on their own rather than listening on whats being said
by others. It isnt bad though but hearing out useful words from other people is more worth than trying hard for yourself even if you are already losing too much.
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December 12, 2019, 01:02:11 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.
If having a losing trade after losing trade and losing money that they cannot really afford to lose does not wake them up then I am not really positive that an article on an Internet forum is going to be enough to make people to change their believes about the markets, it may seem weird but people prefer to lose their money doing things their way than to admit their mistake and try everything that they can in order to change those senseless mistakes.
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December 08, 2019, 03:12:07 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
It is not always that way. Trading based on a signal will not make you bankrupt most of the time because there are still signal groups online that are giving good trading signals. It is still better to rely on yourself rather than to others because when you master the way of trading then you can easily surpass the potential gains that the signals offer.

OP is probably discussing both paid and free trading signals and the risk that comes along with it. I gave up on joining trading signals especially the ones found in Telegram channels since they will offer you "free" signals on their channel yet at the same time they will offer you a "paid" or "premium" version of their system both of which are not worth your time. Most trading signals I see would just put a entry and target price and they don't really give you the analysis for the said trading signal which makes it more suspicious on why they come out with this coin and how they come up with this price. As a precautionary measure I'll just observe the price of their trading signal and only two things happen it didn't move or it will fall down which is really a bad sign for such service roaming around the industry.
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December 08, 2019, 02:24:29 PM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
To be honest, no market around the world will grow organically with the aid of an individual or a group which decision to investment huge fund not to mention cryptocurrency market which can be easily manipulated due to it been high volatile.
I don't support group signal but i think what we need is a genuine connection which will provide real information about the whales movement instead of joining a trading signals group which literally make people bankrupt.
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December 08, 2019, 01:15:53 PM
Trading is much more than just signals. It’s a life.
This is a theard for discussion about the risks involved in using trading signals that have become common in cryptocurrency trading. I would have posted this in Trading forum, but it’s more important that newbies see this. Knowing that after a few unsuccessful investments in cryptocurrencies, using trading signals seems to be the only ‘certain option to profit in the crypto world’. But this comes with huge risk. Risks that these ‘trading professionals’ won’t tell you about.



- Take responsibility by making decisions yourself.
- Learn Risk Management Skills.
- Understand the process of cryptocurrency trading.
- Build your Trading Career.
 

Trading is more than just a signal, it’s a career. So you have to build it.

I really enjoyed this last sentence. It is for lazy people to learn and analyze techniques. Many people appear in this market just to hear the signals of professional traders but they do not have any knowledge of trading. This is really a very wrong thinking of freeloaders and lazy people. Hopefully after this article many people will wake up and spend more time getting serious with this work. Trading is really an interesting job if we learn more about it.
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December 08, 2019, 12:39:27 PM
I keep telling people that there is no easy money. You have to learn and the trade for yourself. Trade signals;
- Can be used to Scam you by paying for "premium signals" which are even non-existent
- Can make you lose a ton of money when you have 100% confidence in them and yet the market decided to go in the different direction
- Can be used to make you buy shitcoins and you become a shitcoin bag holder while the architects' sell orders get filled bu you.
- Can be used to make you participate in a pump and dump scheme unknowingly.

It's lazy people who don't want to learn how to trade who usually fall for trade signal scams.
This is not only about laziness if it was then I can assure you that those people will have not enough motivation to try to trade the markets, this is about a very dangerous combination which is laziness and greediness, the traders that prefer to use signals coming from other people to trade the markets not only are lazy they are greedy, they want to obtain all the benefits of trading without having to work for it and we know that stories like that never end well for those that are involved.
legendary
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December 07, 2019, 11:14:09 AM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

Basis for what? Why the price of the token went up on that day because a certain signal group agreed to pump that token and dump? I would rather keep a record of those tokens that prices went up without the help of a signal group. I want to see which token has grown organically and not using artificial way to pump the price. If the project is really good, price will go up, naturally.
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December 07, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?

I think it is better if we do that. But sometime good trading signal, or maybe which is really near to be always right in prediction is not free. And maybe people who paid for that wouldn't do anything else like more research and then just do what the trading signal said. Because some of them join trading signal because they are not want to do deep analysis in trading.
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December 07, 2019, 09:59:33 AM
We already discuss this and I believe most of us agree to leave trading signal. Trader must use their own skill to built the best performance face market in every condition. Learn and practice is not easy but use signal will make you bankrupt.
we dont need to totally abandoned the signals instead we will use them as basis of our research,let us not forget that some of them has potential so with their signal and our knowledge combined?there is a chance of profiting right?
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