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March 08, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
#50
I wouldn't say that taking out all of these loans makes him a scammer instantly. But it's definitely irresponsible and untrustworthy behavior to be taking out multiple loans at the same time, while the previous ones haven't even been repaid yet.

Given the fact that the amounts that he's been borrowing has been increasing over the past few attempts, it could be possible that he is trying to build up his reputation through his borrowing activities (which he used to be a lender, to be fair). My advice to lenders is that you shouldn't take into account past repayments as much when assessing your risk, because it can mislead you when you are lending without collateral.

But promoting an obvious ponzi in his sig, even if it's been pointed out that it "may" be a ponzi, is unacceptable. At least he has removed this, though.
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March 08, 2019, 03:59:49 PM
#49
I am agree with OP, asking multiple loan at the same time is too risky. Problem is lender will not aware about his previous loan if they never bother to read post history. Since marcotheminer have lot of positive feedback's perhaps lender will trust him. I am not telling he will scam or he deserve red tag just for asking loan. Neutral feedback would be appropriate in my opinion. So lender will aware about his previous loan.
Basically you can't do anything if lender trust him and accepting him after observing his recent activity. Its not gonna make any sense what we talk about that borrower IMO. Its clear that this borrower recent activity is not kinda favourable for having loan but what we can do if someone still ready to offer him.

OP is trying to make everyone careful about this kinda user and I appreciate it humbly.
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March 08, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
#48
Perhaps you should read this thread before posting.

I did read the thread, and your explanation.  To be honest I don't find your argument as compelling as the evidence Gunthar provided.  Again, note the use of the compelling.  I'm not necessarily convinced all these accounts are connected, but there's enough to make me suspicious.  
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March 08, 2019, 11:51:02 AM
#47
I am agree with OP, asking multiple loan at the same time is too risky. Problem is lender will not aware about his previous loan if they never bother to read post history. Since marcotheminer have lot of positive feedback's perhaps lender will trust him. I am not telling he will scam or he deserve red tag just for asking loan. Neutral feedback would be appropriate in my opinion. So lender will aware about his previous loan.
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March 08, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
#46

Gunthar provides compelling evidence that Quickseller posted a PGP signed message, but the message was signed by marcotheminer.

Perhaps you should read this thread before posting

although I would not be surprised if he posted it somewhere and the logic is convoluted.
I have found it on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=147773 (trust page of marcotheminer.) you may have a look from there.
It looks like it stems from this, which looks like for some reason keybase was saying a PGP message that I signed was signed by marco. It appears that marco might have deleted his keybase account, however based on what I posted at the time, the "proof" keybase had for the PGP key associated with marco's key was not signed by my key.


It looks like the issue of me possibly being the same as marco was cleared up here in a GitHub issue for keybase.

According to one of what I believe to be devs of keybase, marco was one of the "alpha" users of keybase, and never proved ownership of the PGP key in his keybase profile (mine). It looks like he input my public key as being his, and never verified it (because he doesn't have the private key) -- note at the time, I was one of the most trusted people here. According to the dev, this was a bug in the keybase software and a fix was made in Early 2017, when this was reported.
As an alternative, you should review the thread you are citing.
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March 08, 2019, 11:41:14 AM
#45
This is all very convoluted and confusing.  Quickseller, marcotheminer, 2double0, and hacker1001101001 all seem to be entangled with each other in one way or another.  I'm not suggesting they are all linked accounts, I don't have any hard proof of that, but there several odd things that seem to suggest they may be under the control of the same person.

In this thread marcotheminer all but admits he has a claim on the account 2double0.  Hacker1001101001 funded the loan, but there were some strange transactions between the two addresses prior to funding the loan.  In this thread Quickseller makes the claim that 2double0 and hacker1001101001 are connected based on the funny business with the addresses.

Gunthar provides compelling evidence that Quickseller posted a PGP signed message, but the message was signed by marcotheminer.

Again, I don't know what's going on, but there does seem to be some strange happenings with these accounts.  


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March 08, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
#44

As my negative feedback for Marco was based solely on him running a Ponzi sig, I have removed it as per our PM conversation.
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March 08, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
#43
It would probably be best to remove the advertisement. Sure, it *might* not be a Ponzi scam, however the overwhelming chance is that it is.

Done. I apologise to those I offended, I did not think it would attract such negativity toward my character/account.
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March 08, 2019, 10:09:43 AM
#42
It would probably be best to remove the advertisement. Sure, it *might* not be a Ponzi scam, however the overwhelming chance is that it is.
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March 08, 2019, 10:04:47 AM
#41
Great way to have discussion on this forum: attack and slander. 2 thumbs up.

Its actually libel since it was written. But uh, you didn't address the point of why you are advertising a Ponzi in your sig. Care to take the opportunity to do so?

I mark it as it is: a possibly risky investment. It is very possible it is legitimate please see: https://t.me/arbitrageops

For those who don't want to click and think for themselves, that group shows some possible arbitrage opportunities. Their youtube on revenue generation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9S6nWwpn2c. 50% interest in 3 months. Is that far-fetched? Not to me, hence why it *could* be a real trading bot.
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March 08, 2019, 10:00:26 AM
#40
Great way to have discussion on this forum: attack and slander. 2 thumbs up.

Its actually libel since it was written. But uh, you didn't address the point of why you are advertising a Ponzi in your sig. Care to take the opportunity to do so?
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March 08, 2019, 09:58:13 AM
#39
Great way to have discussion on this forum: attack and slander. 2 thumbs up.
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March 08, 2019, 09:42:28 AM
#38
Oh god!
You guys painted him red already? I hope I get my repayment today. I left him a PM. It will be safer for him not to ask anymore loan once he pay my payment and other ones payment. If he pays back then give him a break.

Thanks


He was painted previous two DT and new 2 Dt. I do not think he would pay you if got another loan also I thought he will default the loan as already got more than his desired. But might repay to take more and you could lose more money. I can't remember probably you lend money where I wanted to lend after taking money from you asked me again and I refused to give. I never give any loan if I see any active loan.
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March 08, 2019, 09:35:49 AM
#37
Oh god!
You guys painted him red already? I hope I get my repayment today. I left him a PM. It will be safer for him not to ask anymore loan once he pay my payment and other ones payment. If he pays back then give him a break.

Thanks

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March 08, 2019, 09:13:11 AM
#36
I know how things go here and I have borrowed from this forum
I am sorry but could not see any post on lending thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/unibitcoinist-2542493 so if you took the loan from the forum then that is from your another ID. Okay, leave it.

I have updated my feedback and thank you for bringing this to our attention as a community.
Thanks for updating the feedback.
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March 08, 2019, 09:04:11 AM
#35
I had just copied and pasted the feedback and changed it to a neutral, but you are correct; stating "Would happily loan to again." is not how I feel anymore, given these circumstances and I feel that it gives the possibility to lull an unsuspecting lender into a sense of security. I have updated my feedback and thank you for bringing this to our attention as a community.

The part that really bothers me is marco stating he considers those loans repaid. That's just not a normal thing to say.
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March 08, 2019, 08:57:01 AM
#34
am still considering changing the wording
If you remove that one and give a new one then if there is any positive word then that might misguide. I saw after a few moments that you have changed your feedback though according to the current situation seems positive. You may give any type of feedback you want. But right now there is another case "Ponzi Promoter Trying to take multiple loan (Non-collateral)". Already tagged by two DT for promoting Ponzi.
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March 08, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
#33
This thread has brought actions to my attention that give me the impression that marco is too high risk for me to leave a positive trust, especially with the context of my feedback. I thought the user had just come back after some time away from the forum, but the switch from lender to loan-requester is a strange one. Then having multiple active loans that the user "considers repaid", despite them not being repaid and asking for another third loan that is an order of magnitude higher than previous requests; all while offering strange explanations, no collateral and following the pattern of a loan-scammer.

I've changed my feedback to a neutral and am still considering changing the wording, because at this point I have my doubts.
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March 08, 2019, 08:49:35 AM
#32
Let me know if I am wrong.





the guy disappears for a while and comes back and does this post and then starts ask for loan and wants to participate in the signature campaigns and promotes MLM, not a good sign. Something is not right. So you are right

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March 08, 2019, 04:48:09 AM
#31
On your post history, I can't see any loan. I think you might have taken a loan from your well-known person or from a bank. Take a loan from a well-known person and a bank is not the same to take a loan from here.
I know how things go here and I have borrowed from this forum. Leave that part. You would definitely lend money to Suchmoon/LoyceV/Vod if they asked, you would not even think what happened with them. marcotheminer was not active doesn't reflect that he is scammer. You probably have missed my points here. I am not trying to prove marcotheminer is honest.
LoyceV has a point here although. imo, marcotheminer was tagged for shady activities which is why he should not be trusted.
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