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Topic: Robert De Niro revealed he may consider applying for Russian citizenship (Read 4512 times)

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He seems that he is like a leech.  He is only for the good things that he would enjoy on that country without thinking that he is American.  Well, yeah, he could choose because he has the freedom to choose.  But dumping your citizenship before like dumping the real you in exchange for selfish ambition is not a good idea.  I do not know, but yes, it is still his choice. Grin
legendary
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De Niro - clever man. In Russia much easier situation with taxes. It is much easier to bribe and stay "clean". Corruption flourishes.
Wonderful country.

Corruption is everywhere, and not just in Russia. However, it is true that the income tax rate is quite low in Russia. The maximum rate is around 13%, while in France the same is 75%. That means that if you are earning some $1,000,000 per year, then you will be allowed to keep $870,000 in Russia, although you will be left with just $250,000 if you are in France.
It's not necessary to pay 13%. In case of simplified tax system you will need to pay only 6%.
legendary
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De Niro - clever man. In Russia much easier situation with taxes. It is much easier to bribe and stay "clean". Corruption flourishes.
Wonderful country.

Corruption is everywhere, and not just in Russia. However, it is true that the income tax rate is quite low in Russia. The maximum rate is around 13%, while in France the same is 75%. That means that if you are earning some $1,000,000 per year, then you will be allowed to keep $870,000 in Russia, although you will be left with just $250,000 if you are in France.
sr. member
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De Niro - clever man. In Russia much easier situation with taxes. It is much easier to bribe and stay "clean". Corruption flourishes.
Wonderful country.
sr. member
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That lucky again Russia. And Gerard (now simply Zhorik) Depardieu their citizen. Now another celebrity. Probably these people patriotism and loyalty to the homeland - just empty words
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Its his choice to live where ever he wants. Its Democracy
legendary
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Some of them are providing larger chunks than it's required by the federal rules.

Yes. Yakutia is giving away another 2.5 hectares, in addition to the 1 hectare federal offer. So in total, the applicant will receive 3.5 hectares of land (8.65 acres), which is large enough for medium sized farms.

And Amur Oblast has already registered the first allocations:

https://www.rt.com/business/345022-russia-far-east-free-land/

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The first three applications were received from residents in the area, which for many years engaged in beekeeping. District authorities have already approved the layout of the land, and property boundaries have been registered
legendary
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I would take one and some free land in siberia even.

I'm Russian and wonder what for? Cheesy
2 words should be enough, trump hillary
Trumpillary. Cheesy



Meanwhile, regional authorities have begun an implementation of land handover program.

https://www.rt.com/politics/344287-russian-far-east-region-allocates/

Some of them are providing larger chunks than it's required by the federal rules.

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The Amur Region launched its own free land handover program in March 2015. It is slightly different from the federal Russian program that offers free land in the Far East and Siberia. In particular the size of land plots is bigger – 2.5 hectares for private use and up to 20 hectares for a commercial farm, as opposed to a flat 1 hectare for everyone under federal rules.

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I would take one and some free land in siberia even.

I'm Russian and wonder what for? Cheesy
2 words should be enough, trump hillary
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I would take one and some free land in siberia even.

I'm Russian and wonder what for? Cheesy
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I think no one should stop him if he thinks Russia is a right place for him. Why he wants to make it an issue?
legendary
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A poll by the Express newspaper found a majority of Brits want to emigrate to Russia after President Vladimir Putin offered free land to people willing to settle the country’s sparsely-populated Far East region.

The British tabloid survey found 78 percent of the more than 22,000 respondents replied “Yes! Bargain” when asked: “Would you move to Russia in exchange for free land?”

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The current proposition is to offer about 2.5 acres of land to Russians and foreigners who want to build homes or start business in agriculture or tourism in the Far East.

However, foreigners will only be allowed to use the land. Full property rights can only be attained if the homesteaders naturalize as Russian citizens.

Russia’s Communist Party is now seeking to expand the proposed scheme to much larger territories in Siberia.


https://www.rt.com/uk/342926-russia-free-land-poll/


legendary
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The land can be used for any lawful purpose but can only be rented, sold, or given away after an initial five-year period. Foreigners are also allowed to use the land, and the registration of full property rights is only possible after the naturalization of potential owners.

This can be problematic. Rural Russians or Yakuts will get the land, and then rent them out to the Chinese. Tens of thousands of Chinese farmers will flood to the far-east, and they will outnumber the Russians in the villages. Also, the Japanese might use this option to get a toehold in the island of Sakhalin, and the Kuriles.

The draw for allowing foreigners to utilize the resource is that they may bring in capital to foster infrastructure development.  I would hope that Russia embraces a 'nationalist' policy which attempts to favor their present people and their culture (and codifies this favoritism up-front so nobody can claim surprise) but also leverages external realities which can speed the project toward a conclusion which works for everyone.

From what little I know of this Russian project (exclusively what I read here on this board) this looks to me like Putin putting a thumb in the eye of the Globalist and their projects expressed by the U.N. sponsored 'human habitat' projects.  That is, effectively, people actually owning nothing but rather forced to dump what excesses they earn into the pockets of rent-seekers, artificial scarcity and surveillance of various types the norm, and packed like sardines into human mega-centers.  By consolidating people away from resource-rich environments it paves the way for monopolization of these resources by multi-national corporations and economies of scale which characterizes the utilization of agricultural resources in the U.S. at present...or at least the strong trend.  I suspect (or at least hope) that the peoples of the former Soviet Union are still primed to reject this as a life-way.

legendary
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The land can be used for any lawful purpose but can only be rented, sold, or given away after an initial five-year period. Foreigners are also allowed to use the land, and the registration of full property rights is only possible after the naturalization of potential owners.

This can be problematic. Rural Russians or Yakuts will get the land, and then rent them out to the Chinese. Tens of thousands of Chinese farmers will flood to the far-east, and they will outnumber the Russians in the villages. Also, the Japanese might use this option to get a toehold in the island of Sakhalin, and the Kuriles.
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" When asked whether he would follow the example of boxer Roy Jones and apply for Russian citizenship, the star noted that he would probably consider it, as you never know what the future brings, but it was too early to make such predictions."

http://sputniknews.com/world/20151110/1029845386/de-biro-may-be-seeking-russian-citizenship.html

if he apply for russian citizenship , it will be very good for him.. i love russia and russian people.. they are so crazy ..i think russia will be the best place to live in in near future..
legendary
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https://www.rt.com/business/341892-far-east-land-infrastructure/

President Vladimir Putin has ordered free land handouts in Russia’s Far East should be provided with minimal infrastructure. On Monday, he signed a law offering land plots of 1 hectare (2.5 acres) to citizens for free.
“We should work with regional authorities, so that land plots are allocated in areas with at least minimal infrastructure,” Putin said on Wednesday while meeting with Russia's Far East Development Minister Alexander Galushka.

According to the minister, the infrastructure could be provided to a group of twenty land owners. He said that since the ministry has announced the idea of land development, people have started applying. They suggest cooperation of about 200-300 people, said Galushka, adding that then the provision of infrastructure becomes possible, even if it’s not a highly-developed one.

The Minister also said that the Cabinet is preparing a bill on lowering electricity prices in the Far East to the average cost in Russia.

The idea of a so-called ‘Russian Homestead Act’ was first proposed in early 2015 by the presidential envoy to the Far East Federal District, Yury Trutnev, who suggested offering large plots of land for free to anyone willing to resettle to the Russian Far East to start a farm or business. The program is one of the initiatives aimed at boosting the economy in the region.

Anyone is entitled to apply for up to hectare of land in the Kamchatka, Primorye, Khabarovsk, Amur, Magadan and Sakhalin regions, the republic of Sakha, or the Jewish and Chukotka autonomous districts.

The land can be used for any lawful purpose but can only be rented, sold, or given away after an initial five-year period. Foreigners are also allowed to use the land, and the registration of full property rights is only possible after the naturalization of potential owners.
legendary
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It also should be noted that this law won't require a permanent residence on the granted land. You will be allowed to have this land in your property even if you're living in Kaliningrad. You will also be able to pass it to your children, as part of inheritance, or just rent it to someone else. The only difference from having this land in private property is that you won't be allowed to sell it.

That will be a very wrong move. People will just take the land, and will do no productive work on that plot. Also giving out 4 ha. or 5 ha. each to the families will be much better than awarding one hectare to individuals, as the plot size will be big enough to allow medium scale and small scale projects such as poultry or dairy farms.

Back in the day, the U.S. had a homestead program.  One had to 'prove up' before title was granted meaning that various developments needed to occur.  Land cleared, fences, structures, etc.  In my area a homestead was about 65 ha.  I live on property originally homesteaded by ancestors around the turn of the century (1900).  Rugged area so the amount of land suitable for agriculture is perhaps 10 ha of the original homestead if that.  That's enough to provide a decent quality of life for a family (if they don't mind working their asses off), but not much excess.  During the depression 'the ranch' provided potatoes for the extended family, many of whom lived in town, and there were half a dozen hogs which could be sold to raise a little money and stuff like that.

The old homesteads are gradually being abandoned and going back to nature.  It's really only 'sustainable' and efficient to stack-n-pack humans into high density housing in population centers.  Humans are still 'free range' in that they can walk or bicycle down to some 'green space' if they like.  There is no reason why humans cannot be kept as efficiently as other animals are on a factory farm, and that seems to be what 'the powers that be' have in mind.  If, for whatever reason or set of reasons, Putin has limited interest in going along with the program that is very interesting indeed and very hopeful for the Russian people.

legendary
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It also should be noted that this law won't require a permanent residence on the granted land. You will be allowed to have this land in your property even if you're living in Kaliningrad. You will also be able to pass it to your children, as part of inheritance, or just rent it to someone else. The only difference from having this land in private property is that you won't be allowed to sell it.

That will be a very wrong move. People will just take the land, and will do no productive work on that plot. Also giving out 4 ha. or 5 ha. each to the families will be much better than awarding one hectare to individuals, as the plot size will be big enough to allow medium scale and small scale projects such as poultry or dairy farms.
legendary
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I am afraid that 1 hectare is too small to attract farmers or other investors. The area should be increased to at least 10 hectares.
Then we wouldn't have enough land to distribute it between those who are willing to get it. There are 614 million hectares of unused public land, which is available for distribution. This number, being divided by 10, gives us only 61 million of potential receivers, that's not so much.

How many families are there in Russia? 35 million at the most. And out of that, how many would be interested in moving to the rural areas of Eastern Siberia, where there is no electricity or broadband? The number might be less than 1 million. So let me do the math. 10 hectares to each of these families would mean that the government would need 10 million ha. (100,000 sq.km).
It's not about families, it's about individuals.

It also should be noted that this law won't require a permanent residence on the granted land. You will be allowed to have this land in your property even if you're living in Kaliningrad. You will also be able to pass it to your children, as part of inheritance, or just rent it to someone else. The only difference from having this land in private property is that you won't be allowed to sell it.
legendary
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I am afraid that 1 hectare is too small to attract farmers or other investors. The area should be increased to at least 10 hectares.
Then we wouldn't have enough land to distribute it between those who are willing to get it. There are 614 million hectares of unused public land, which is available for distribution. This number, being divided by 10, gives us only 61 million of potential receivers, that's not so much.

How many families are there in Russia? 35 million at the most. And out of that, how many would be interested in moving to the rural areas of Eastern Siberia, where there is no electricity or broadband? The number might be less than 1 million. So let me do the math. 10 hectares to each of these families would mean that the government would need 10 million ha. (100,000 sq.km).
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