Topic: Roger Ver goes full blown BCash - page 3. (Read 1850 times)

Jihan and Roger have different perspective to btc and bch Jihan wants that bch improves and make it own stuff the same with btc he is implying that they are different and make their own business while Roger consider that bch will replace btc and the worst part is he is calling it the real bitcoin, they are a bit contradicting to each other the only thing that is quite common is their support to bch, we will see what's gonna happen as the current price of bch is dropping and btc is fluctuating from $6000 to $6500.

Yeah pretty much, the guy just moved 25k bitcoin to finex which could pump any coin to the sky. But hey thanks for the free money.

The rich guys can do whatever they want

The rich guys can do whatever they want

@gavinandresen

Bitcoin Cash is what I started working on in 2010: a store of value AND means of exchange.
7:57 AM - 11 Nov 2017

Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik

Jeff Garzik Retweeted David Jerry

Messy divorce continues.  Some of this is short term pump & profit switching.  Some hash rate is permanently gone from BTC.

Dr Craig S Wright‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Nov 11

1 billion people live in slums today.

These people cannot hope to escape without trade. This can be achieved with access to secure and low cost money.

This is what bitcoin cash delivers.

In the next decade, BCH will start to give these people hope and a way out of poverty.

Rick Falkvinge‏Verified account @Falkvinge
Nov 10
Replying to @Falkvinge

I am cautiously predicting that there's a tipping point somewhere around $2,000-$2,500 for #Bitcoin Cash, when Bitcoin Legacy will just be dropped like a bad habit and the exits will be crowded, except for by a few who still refuse to read the writing on the wall.

@bobbyclee

If the economic majority truly prefers #Bitcoin to remain at #1MB base blocksize, then $BTC prices should go UP now that #SegWit2x is cancelled and the #No2X folks have won?

Let’s see in 3 months; I hope I’m wrong and see #Bitcoin at $10,000 soon.
#CautiouslyOptimistic

Ryan X. Charles‏Verified account @ryanxcharles

Bought my first bitcoin for $6 in 2011. Sold my last bitcoin for $6227 in 2017.

Bitcoin has been taken over by people who do not share my values.

Bitcoin Cash is the vision I signed up for in 2011. The possibility of financial freedom for everyone.
11:27 AM - 11 Nov 2017

If there is such a split between Roger ver and Jihan wu,then its really good for the bitcoin community.Roger ver is trying his best to pump fully BCH and at the same time,his supporters just try to create an image of segwit2x cancellation as a sad incident and due to it,most of investors are turning towards BCH.

This is a planned action. They cancelled bitcoin segwith2x upgrade and BCC started to go to the moon. It's not a coinsidence very obviously.

Jihan Wu and Roger Ver are the wolfies trying to make themselves more rich. People are aware of this.

Whatever is happening with BCash, it appears to be a coordinated effort. Its likely something Roger Ver and friends have been planning for a long time. The most likely explanation is BCash will follow in the footsteps of ethereum. There will be a big spike. Followed by dump. Roger Ver and friends will ride away with the lion's share of profits. Then BCash will sit idle and not move much as eth has for the last few months. Ethereum may have already showed the blueprint for where BCash's future lies.

Most big price movements appear to be coordinated. With bitcoin it was a co-operative effort between Jamie Dimon, china banning exchanges and a host of media and academic personalities coordinating to label btc a bubble.

With bitcoin cash, it was a coordinated effort between bcash's network upgrade being out soon, Roger Ver attacking bitcoin and claiming bcash is the real bitcoin, sock puppets spreading pro bcash propaganda (like this:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/weird-theory-i-heard-of-2383794  ) and whatever else. Roger Ver and friends likely bought bcash to prop the price up and create a spike, intending to profit off it later from the shift of momentum?

If segwit2x was plan A. Bitcoincash pump and dump could be plan B. Notice how quickly after segwit2x was cancelled this coordinated effort @ bcash pump occurred.

This is an interesting topic. Unfortunately I cant say I've been following events close enough to know with good accuracy what the implications or exposition to this is.

You never answered how Roger is using his Bitcoin.com site to pump Bitcoin Cash. How is he doing that?


A better TL;DR: Buy the fucking dip with Bitcoin Cash!

Traders, certain information has come to my attention that is causing me grave concerns and i feel it is my duty to warn each and every one of you.    
  
We all know the scaling drama has caused a huge rift, resulting in bitcoin forking into the soon to be "Bitcoin Cash".    
  
I know many have large holdings and savings in bitcoin, and are 'hodlers' and will never sell, so when the selling starts, you may lose everything if you don't also sell.  
 
Gentlemen, this is certaintly not going to be gentlemen.      
  
Certain information has come to light from back room channels, sources i cannot disclose ~ even writing this post will probably reveal my source - but i feel by gods will, I must warn you all.  
 
Selling is coming. Selling the likes of which hasn't been seen since MtGox era.  
Already as i type this, battleships of bitcoin are being shorted on all major exchanges.  
 
Gentlemen, The enemy, the big blockers, have colluded and joined forces. The chinese, Jihan & co have put together a plan to replace bitcoin with bitcoin cash.  
  
The plan goes like this:  
Chinese miners (f2pool, antpool etc etc) have organised with major exchanges (via/huobi/okcoin etc) to support and launch bitcoin cash.  
Initially they will let everyone who wants to sell, sell.    
Once the coin has bottomed out, and everyone who wanted to sell has sold, they [chinese miners/jihad/chinese exchanges] will begin accumulating lots and lots of bitcoin cash.  
They will then begin to pump the price  to around 0.1 BCC/BTC - 10%  
The big pools won't mine it ~ they will let the smaller pools see the returns from mining this expensive, but low difficulty coin and start mining it.  
Later, the larger pools will join, and as we know, jihad has ALOT of hashing power, their plan is for bitcoin cash to have more hashing power than bitcoin ~ and lets be honest, once t he chinese move over, that is pretty much it.  
Around this time, the 'hard fork' section of segwit 2x is not going to happen ~ it never was - Bitcoin cash will then be seen as the original NYA coin..  
At that point in time, Bitcoin cash will be on all major chinese exchanges, possibly some western exchanges aswell, and have majority hashing power. Western companies & other merchant providers (BitPay - @Spair) etc - paid off by bitmain etc will go along with the new bitcoin cash narrative and will push for the 'bitcoin cash' to be called 'bitcoin' on all their platforms, leaving only coinbase et all which will then be the odd ones out..  
  
Now comes the scary part, The old bitcoin, the bitcoin we know and love, is going to get DESTROYED.  
What determines a coins success ? It's market cap.  
Big old school blockers and miners are going to dump bitcoin back to the bottom, they will take literally billions and billions of dollars out of bitcoin. They will use the money to fund the marketing, and development, or 'bitcoin cash' - Think, Bitcoin core - FIRED.  Think - forbes article, "why bitcoin miners and companies are moving to bitcoin cash" - think - "Why the market is chosing bitcoin cash as bitcoin not bitcoin core"  - They wil lsay the market has spoken, that people have voted with their money.  
  
Right now, massive huge shorts are being built, already on finex, shorts are at 32k - not seen since $200 these kinds of numbers of shorts, and its climbing, all the t ime, consistently, they have ALOT of coins to short.  
    
The most painful kind of selling, is where it never bounces and if you remember MtGox from $1000 to $70, you'll remember what no bounces feels like ~ and I can tell you. This won't be any better.  
  
Good luck all, remember - fair warning.
  
Below is I grabbed, i also have some slack and telegram logs, I will sort them out later when i get back, i just want to confirm what I can safely disclose first for my own protection.
    
Email from [alice] to [bob] - http://imgur.com/a/FcZIp

TL;DR: Buy the fucking dip and enjoy BCH's pump while it lasts.

I don't know for certain, but there are a lot of Bitcoin-hate propaganda out right now. These have mostly died down as Bitcoin Cash remained dormant for the most part, but people are saying that Segwit2x backers are rallying to support BCH. It seems to me like they have convinced Segwit2x supporters to dump Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash. This really couldn't have gone unplanned though, as it seems like nothing short of market manipulation.

This isn't new with Roger Ver, he's been trying to make Bitcoin Cash the new Bitcoin for a long time now. Only now, but his and his teams efforts is he going to be able to somewhat get his way as people are already going on the crusade about how BCC is the new Bitcoin Which all of us know isn't true.

I really want to know what kind of planning went into this to make this price increase, and the social media posts, something that is pretty hard to do with billions in marketcap - what BCC had.

Can anyone explain?

Interesting.

And, it seems like a very real possibility.

However, thinking again about it, for ETH it might not be a bad time to slowly accumulate and then wait for the next pump. There are so many ERC-20 tokens out there, and more every day. It's going to keep ETH in demand.