Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on August 30, 2018, 12:53:02 PM

If Bitcoin was a company and/or trademarked it would have been quite possible to sue Roger Ver for several reasons

- fraudulent use of the trademark,
- counterfeiting by reproduction or imitation of the trademark
- Defamation
- fraudulent misrepresentation

Just a few things I am thinking about. And here a court of law would have no problem to give you the cup.

But the sad fact that Bitcoin isn't a company nor a thing that's legalized which would be suited for someone to be sued but on all the reasons you have posted.
Arent Roger Ver ashamed on what he have done? Entire bitcoin community do knows on what he done and still he do have the face to show.

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If Bitcoin was a company and/or trademarked it would have been quite possible to sue Roger Ver for several reasons

- fraudulent use of the trademark,
- counterfeiting by reproduction or imitation of the trademark
- Defamation
- fraudulent misrepresentation

Just a few things I am thinking about. And here a court of law would have no problem to give you the cup.

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Quote from: Larrycool on August 30, 2018, 09:24:37 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on August 14, 2018, 05:11:56 AM

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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

Why do you hope that the lawsuit will be successful when the group attempting the lawsuit failed to raise funds to pay for it and abandoned the whole thing?

Because as many as are incharge of the case should know that the outcome of such a big case like this has a very huge impact in the cryptocurrency industry. And as many as are following up with the case will be optimistic about the the outcome which is the striving force.

There is no lawsuit. It was just a proposal but it was abandoned because it costs money to fund a lawsuit. A donation page was set up to help pay for it but it raised next to nothing in BTC donations so it was shutdown.

I wish there was a lawsuit against Ver regarding what is happening on the bitcoin.com domain but it has been cancelled. it would be interesting to know if a court of law would have forced Ver to hand over the bitcoin.com domain to the Bitcoin developer team and whether he would have been liable to pay for any compensation to people who lost funds because of the Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash confusion on that domain name. Maybe a court of law would have found Ver not guilty and not liable for anything but we will never know until or unless there is a lawsuit against him.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 14, 2018, 05:11:56 AM

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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

Why do you hope that the lawsuit will be successful when the group attempting the lawsuit failed to raise funds to pay for it and abandoned the whole thing?

Because as many as are incharge of the case should know that the outcome of such a big case like this has a very huge impact in the cryptocurrency industry. And as many as are following up with the case will be optimistic about the the outcome which is the striving force.

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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

Why do you hope that the lawsuit will be successful when the group attempting the lawsuit failed to raise funds to pay for it and abandoned the whole thing?

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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

ver delivered reasons for his point of view he has freedom of expression

nevertheless bitcoin cash once at 3k usd per unit will continue to decling like its currently around 500

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In fact, he never shined with honesty in his words. In a crypto community, nobody believes him in my sight. But he is a large Holder of Bitcoin and probably therefore the novice enjoys authority. The fact that people confuse bitcoin and bitcoin cache them is not attentiveness, it does not give out one after another, it sells another coin. But if he is convicted, then this will be true since he is guilty of many other things.

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Quote from: mymenace on July 27, 2018, 11:11:03 PM

Quote from: cunese on July 26, 2018, 10:39:09 AM

In my opinion, there is no fraud in speculation. Speculation requires technology. If you buy encryption and then fall down, you should bear the responsibility of loss.

hmmmm

Oh get it

Do not trust anyone, do not buy, do not blame the person your buying from.

As is with gold, if you buy gold and the gold is not gold, you should bear the responsibility

For example.

1) If Paul Vernon from Cryptsy Stole your coins, its your fault
2) If Roger Ver advises you Mt Gox is OK, it is your fault

got it

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Quote from: cunese on July 26, 2018, 10:39:09 AM

In my opinion, there is no fraud in speculation. Speculation requires technology. If you buy encryption and then fall down, you should bear the responsibility of loss.

Thank you

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Quote from: cunese on July 26, 2018, 10:39:09 AM

In my opinion, there is no fraud in speculation. Speculation requires technology. If you buy encryption and then fall down, you should bear the responsibility of loss.

hmmmm

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In my opinion, there is no fraud in speculation. Speculation requires technology. If you buy encryption and then fall down, you should bear the responsibility of loss.

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Quote from: Rojer1928 on July 26, 2018, 07:54:55 AM

I do not know if the lawsuit can be won against him, but I will definitely welcome him Tongue
How he has the courage to call it Bitcoin pays Bitcoin the truth. Imagine that the beginners send Bitcoins they just bought to the BCH address by mistake.

Certainly can see some of the errors that occur because beginners are more confused with such false statements.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41471105

That was posted earlier. The lawsuit is not going ahead.

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I do not know if the lawsuit can be won against him, but I will definitely welcome him Tongue
How he has the courage to call it Bitcoin pays Bitcoin the truth. Imagine that the beginners send Bitcoins they just bought to the BCH address by mistake.

Certainly can see some of the errors that occur because beginners are more confused with such false statements.

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This is me another reason for us to be very careful when the things that we are about to invest or buy, there is so many people who are just willing to have your money they are not sleeping and daily trying to cheat you.

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Quote from: kingkonjac on July 24, 2018, 04:06:15 PM

I hope the court will give the right decision but this kind of things just make the btc and crypto world with a bad reputation and have a bad impact on the decentralization nature of it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41471105

That was posted earlier. The lawsuit is not going ahead.

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I hope the court will give the right decision but this kind of things just make the btc and crypto world with a bad reputation and have a bad impact on the decentralization nature of it.

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Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42759681

Remember Rog, I said the court was the wrong road to go down.

Quote from: Bitbobb on July 14, 2018, 06:46:16 PM

The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also? Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?

Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail. Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Yep every one of Roger's failed projects

Bitcoin Cash thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitcoin-cash-pro-on-chain-scaling-cheaper-fees-2040221

The question remains Roger, why would Paul Vernon not rat you out

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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41471105

That was posted earlier. The lawsuit is not going ahead.

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I hope this go through though since nobody really owns bitcoin trademark so anyone can do use the name. Even the situation is like that, what he did what do deserve a class action.

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truly you are correct I think roger ver need to assume control over the name of bitcoin and put the name of bitcoin money into bitcoin, to be straightforward it could be hindering for new players, and I look like roger ver making a decent attempt to have the capacity to supplant bitcoin to bitcoin money.

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