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I never heard of "Bitcoin Core" or "Bcore" before, I only heard of "Bitcoin".

I have heard of "Bcash" and "Bitcoin Cash" and that is a low level derivative forked from "Bitcoin"
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According to Wallet Investor, Ver intentionally abuses the name "bitcoin" on its website Bitcoin.com, which sells bitcoin and bitcoin cash to deceive trusting investors and provoke them to buy the "wrong" bitcoin. "Given that the site is called Bitcoin.com, and is also a place to sell bitcoin, bitcoin cash and cloud mining contracts, it can potentially mislead novice investors and beginners, forcing them to buy the wrong bitcoin."

There are Over 17 coins with the name bitcoin in front.  

From what I saw, the website did not sell either bcore or bcash coins directly on the site, but link to exchanges, where you had to login and choose yourself.

So technically no one purchased a single coin on his site.

But please don't let reason interfere with the Roger Ver Hate Fest.

Next post, Roger Ver drowned puppies and lost your GI Joe Action Figure.  Wink

Is Roger Ver really the Cobra Commander?  Shocked
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According to Wallet Investor, Ver intentionally abuses the name "bitcoin" on its website Bitcoin.com, which sells bitcoin and bitcoin cash to deceive trusting investors and provoke them to buy the "wrong" bitcoin. "Given that the site is called Bitcoin.com, and is also a place to sell bitcoin, bitcoin cash and cloud mining contracts, it can potentially mislead novice investors and beginners, forcing them to buy the wrong bitcoin."

Many believe there is intent on part of Ver, yes.
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According to Wallet Investor, Ver intentionally abuses the name "bitcoin" on its website Bitcoin.com, which sells bitcoin and bitcoin cash to deceive trusting investors and provoke them to buy the "wrong" bitcoin. "Given that the site is called Bitcoin.com, and is also a place to sell bitcoin, bitcoin cash and cloud mining contracts, it can potentially mislead novice investors and beginners, forcing them to buy the wrong bitcoin."
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I do not really know Roger Ver, if he is the one who cheated the bitcoin novices. It is an evil act, it is inappropriate for him to be here better to give him a lesson that is worthy for a con man like him.
legendary
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Ver vid for the 134613th time

Okay, I think you've made your point.  We've all seen it now.  Take it down a notch, maybe?  



The hole Roger dug himself into was thinking he can decide what bitcoin is. That's not how it works.

the thing is. reverse psychology your own statement
can theymos say that bitcoin core protocol is "bitcoin"

the truth is that theymos promoting core is the exact same argument as ver promoting cash.

No single individual can redefine what Bitcoin is when there are countless users around the world who already know what it is.  You need those users to agree with your usage of the name, or it's inevitable you're going to face a backlash.  So it's not the exact same argument at all.  You have a tendency to blame the individual for circumstances that are borne of the actions of the many.  You can't blame theymos for the fact that the majority of users agree with him.  That's just how it is.  If the users didn't agree with theymos, he too would face a backlash for attempting to steal the name from the users.

There's a double standard involved here, too.  Could you imagine if bitcoin.org did promote both chains, but insisted on calling the BCH chain "bcash" on their site?  Just visualise the total meltdown Roger Ver would have then.  That would be poor form on the part of bitcoin.org, because that chain isn't called "bcash" and BCH users generally don't want it to be called that.  The same applies in reverse, so bitcoin.com shouldn't be calling the BTC chain "bitcoin core" against the wishes of BTC users because that's equally poor form.

There's nothing stopping you from calling it Bitcoin Core if that's how you want to distinguish it from Bitcoin Cash, but you're going to need to accept the fact that all the BTC users who have literally zero interest in buying or spending BCH don't need to make that distinction.  It's inevitable they're going to keep calling the two chains "Bitcoin" and "Bitcoin Cash".  And that's literally your best case scenario here, because if you piss the BTC users off by trying to change their chain's name without their consent, they're all going to start calling Bitcoin Cash "bcash" instead.  I haven't so far, but if you keep forcing this utter futility of yours, I just might start.  

You call it what you want, we're calling it Bitcoin.  End of.


to me its jsut far easier to avoid any debate, argument, misinterpretation and issues by saying when someone asks for bitcoin. you reply cash or core
much like when someone asks for dollar you ask US or canadian

Do you walk into your local British shops and ask "Is that the Egyptian, Lebanese, Syrian or British Pound?"

Of course you fucking don't.  You'd only ask about those pounds if you specifically wanted to use those particular currencies.  If we're not transacting in BCH, we don't need to make any distinction.  So give up with the bullshit already.  You call it what you want.  We'll call it what we want.  And I assure you we won't be calling it anything other than Bitcoin or BTC.
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you are new in btc world? be aware of scammer!

True. Describe what a scammer is though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI

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you are new in btc world? be aware of scammer!
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the market is not about honest or something else the market is about capitalism to fleece the sheep and everything is being done to achieve that.
legendary
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Ver threw is toys out of the pram then spat out his dummy and created Bcash because he thought by virtue of him being a whale he could control Bitcoin.

you are so amusing
ver didnt even create cash

you are well and truly stuck reading the propaganda scripts and just copy/pasting junk

BLOQ made bitcoin cash
atleast do some research.

oh and research is not reading reddit.

anyway you love scripts so much and you make people laugh with all the trip-ups you make. im guessing your day job is a comedian
anyways. have a nice time on the comedy stage. but in no way will you ever star in a documentary.

who is roger ver?
just a social drama face used to provoke debate and distract people from the real critical things happening. he didnt code any node is just part of a finger pointing campaign to reverse psych people into wanting to hand core and thus barry silbert the control they want
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who is roger ver?
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@franky1

There is only one Bitcoin and there is only one Bitcoin Cash. The two are separate entities.

Ver threw is toys out of the pram then spat out his dummy and created Bcash because he thought by virtue of him being a whale he could control Bitcoin. After all he seems himself better placed than theymos and others though many disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI




legendary
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No need to try to get all technical with me. In a nutshell, a minority of sheep being huddled along believe Bcash is Bitcoin

lol
you are just repeating the reddit drama script. you cant even see the wider picture.
the bitcoin cash deception instigated by barry silbert paid individuals is all ust social drama of illsion and finger pointing to try getting the community to say dont let X have it because it should belong to Y

lete me explain this to you in terms you might understand

when you were born. your parents did not sign a birth certificate for you. so technically you had no parents and no one was a guardian/custodian of you. you had no surname. you could live in anyones house..

later on you decided to live in the core household that was being financed by the barry silber family. although you had visits with other houses many people started calling certain people your mum and dad

your parents later on didnt want you to be a free person with no one controlling you. you were a rebel and knew the people you called mum and dad couldnt do anything
your mum and dad will still share a bed, and both will still get the same income and live in the same house. but they decide to do some fake drama campaign by dividing the house

where your mummy and daddy decided one day to split up. so that the courts would be forced to decide on a parent to become your responsibility. and you would finally be registered to someone as your custodian/guardian

they knew that neither by default gets custody of you via an amicable divorse. they are both equal divisions of you. but then your still not registered to a single custodian. you would still be free with no surname

so everyone, neighbours, friends and others around hoped things can be amicable and doesnt cause chaos for you and that when people want to talk to your family. they simply ask mummies side or daddies side.

but instead. mummy and daddy secretly agreed before the divorse to play some drama and be hypocrits and play games to point fingers in one direction so atleast daddy gets custody of you.

so mummy decides to act nuts and shouts out that your her child and only hers. she even says that she gave birth to you and has a trust that was set up of a large sum of money that proves ownership of you.

daddy pretends that he wa always around and as you turned into a teen he took over bringing you up and so he deserves the responsibility...


mummy =cash
daddy= core
your future surname=barry-silbert
you=bitcoin
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you have no original thought you are just copy and pasting the same words. but fail to answer the questions

you do know what a bilateral split is.
and why its different to a unilateral split

you can try to deny the bilateral split. but thats just you. because the devs of both cash and core have publicly admitted a bilateral split occured

as of august both core and cash differ to the protocol rules, differ to the block structure, differ to the transaction types available, differ to the network typology of what was bitcoin 2009-2016

now try and answer with a post that does not contain any content that has been copy and pasted. go on try having an original thought and some research which you have then processed and can mention in your own words

No need to try to get all technical with me. In a nutshell, a minority of sheep being huddled along believe Bcash is Bitcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI

legendary
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you have no original thought you are just copy and pasting the same words. but fail to answer the questions

you do know what a bilateral split is.
and why its different to a unilateral split

you can try to deny the bilateral split. but thats just you. because the devs of both cash and core have publicly admitted a bilateral split occured

as of august both core and cash differ to the protocol rules, differ to the block structure, differ to the transaction types available, differ to the network typology of what was bitcoin 2009-2016

now try and answer with a post that does not contain any content that has been copy and pasted. go on try having an original thought and some research which you have then processed and can mention in your own words
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thats the hyposcrisy though.. ver says there is no bitcoin cash there is only bitcoin
YOU say there is no bitcoin core there is only bitcoin

and who maintains what you call "bitcoin"..

Before any of the following were created there was Bitcoin (bitcoin.org):

Bitcoin Atom
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin Dark
Bitcoin Diamond    
Bitcoin Fast
Bitcoin God
Bitcoin Gold
Bitcoin Green
Bitcoin Interest
Bitcoin Planet
Bitcoin Plus
Bitcoin Private
Bitcoin Scrypt
Bitcoin X  
Bitcoin Z

No hypocrisy at all. Bitcoin Atom is derivative of Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash is a derivative of Bitcoin. There is no Bitcoin Core, there is just Bitcoin followed by all those forks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI


legendary
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can theymos say that bitcoin core protocol is "bitcoin"

Apart from pro-Ver and pro-Bitcoin Cash propagators nobody calls "Bitcoin" by the name of "Bitcoin Core". There is no "Bitcoin Core", there is Bitcoin and then there are forks containing the name such as Bitcoin Atom, Bitcoin Gold, Bcash etc


thats the hyposcrisy though.. ver says there is no bitcoin cash there is only bitcoin
YOU say there is no bitcoin core there is only bitcoin

and who maintains what you call "bitcoin"..

hopefully you wont say that core maintains it
hopefully you wont say that core is the reference client
hopefully you wont say that core are literally the core/engine of the network

but if you think that core are the maiintainers then you like theymos are declaring that core is bitcoin... which is the same hypocrisy

describe what "bitcoin" is at a protocol level. EG what features and who coded those features. i bet you cant say its the random community of multiple different node client teams if you were brutally honest with yourself
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can theymos say that bitcoin core protocol is "bitcoin"

Apart from pro-Ver and pro-Bitcoin Cash propagators nobody calls "Bitcoin" by the name of "Bitcoin Core". There is no "Bitcoin Core", there is Bitcoin and then there are forks containing the name such as Bitcoin Atom, Bitcoin Gold, Bcash etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI

legendary
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maybe you should look into the handshaking preferences of Fibre and the DNS seeds.
do you know why core demanded other nodes to change their versionbits and their id.. ill leave you to investigate

also ask yourself with only 35% of the network running cores most up to dat version.. how did core start rejecting 65% of the rest
ill leave you to investigate

and yes trying to run a node by spoofing as a core client just to get acceptance, core treat as an attack. yet its core that have put up the barrier to stop other nodes just joining in

The hole Roger dug himself into was thinking he can decide what bitcoin is. That's not how it works.

the thing is. reverse psychology your own statement
can theymos say that bitcoin core protocol is "bitcoin"

the truth is that theymos promoting core is the exact same argument as ver promoting cash.
to me its jsut far easier to avoid any debate, argument, misinterpretation and issues by saying when someone asks for bitcoin. you reply cash or core
much like when someone asks for dollar you ask US or canadian
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