Topic: Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies. - page 12. (Read 3146 times)

 Characters like Roger Ver deserve the worst punishment there possibly can be, Cheating innocent souls into making wrong decisions by a figure like Ron is a very unfortunate and a disgrace, just shows how greedy people can get in this business, the newbies oo need t be enlightened, there are all kinds of information available online about this coins, it will be in order if you took your time as a newbie to look into these coins an make informed investment choices,

franky1 where are you? I believe we should stop the drama and start talking about Bitcoin Cash's vision and technical roadmap. The hard fork to 32mb maximum block size is too much in my opinion, but maybe increasing the data carrier size to 220 bytes might encourage a Counter Party Cash smart contract platform to be built on top.

I also like the return of the disabled OPcodes.

I hope your community throws Roger Ver out. If the project is great then that will speak for itself. You do not need Roger Ver.

This lawsuit was a wildgoose chase, destined to fail. I cant believe there were people dumb enough thinking anything good will come out of it. Roger wins again. The sooner people realize how decentralisation works the better

I thank god for coming across an information like this in this forum, this is one of the reason I like this forum. It is not only newbies that will be confuse even old people in cryptoworld will be confuse too. Bitcoin is written is bitcoin core while bitcoincash is written as bitcoin. That site did to be shut down if he is not ready to make necessary correction.

Plus franky1 wants to confuse the readers by saying "Core centralization", strongly suggesting that the Core developers have control over the network. If they did then why did it take for a long time, and a need for a UASF to activate Segwit?

I would agree with what has been mentioned abobe, that the raising attention to this accident can negatively affect the market but at the same time any attention is good because you are getting to be talked about.

Well I have some good news for you, no one does!  The name belongs to the largest body of users.  You're going to find it difficult to convince them it doesn't.

Look at what happened with the Ethereum hardfork that everyone has almost forgotten about now.  ETH and ETC.  ETC argued profusely that their vision was closer to the intended original version.  But when someone says "Ethereum", you know they mean "ETH" because that's what most users call it.  If you want ETC you need to say "Ethereum Classic".  As such, I'll repeat again, the economic majority will continue to prove they can claim the Bitcoin brand because it will continue to be known as Bitcoin.  That's just how it's going to be.  No butchering the meaning of "decentralisation" will change that.

You still get decentralisation.  Each version of Ethereum gets to exist and have Ethereum in their name.  Users have total freedom of choice over which one they want to use.  But ETC have to settle for the fact that they need to clarify they're "Classic", and not compatible with what most people mean by "Ethereum".  Why is that so bad to you?  Just accept the reality of it and move on with your life.

I'm going to cross-paste my last post in another thread for context, to demonstrate my neutral stance on hardforks and to illustrate where I suspect our paths diverge.  Have a read.  

Am I right to assume we agree up until that last paragraph?


Because it sounds like that's what you're advocating.  BCH are the smaller group, yet you seem supportive of the notion that they have the right to rename "Bitcoin" to "Bitcoin Core", despite the wishes of the majority, whilst simultaneously stating that BCH is Bitcoin?  And you wonder why we aren't willing to just go along with that like it's somehow okay?  Are you even hearing yourself?

But what about Roger Ver? Do you support his fraudulent ways of manipulating and confusing the public when he claims that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin"?

Then we go to the "sheep counterargument" again because Bitcoin Cash cannot compete with Bitcoin technically and economically. If I am a sheep then more than 90% of the community sre sheeps.


No one said anyone owns the brand. It is Roger Ver who keeps claiming that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" and it confuses some of the people, especially the newbies because in truth Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency the big blockers call "Bitcoin Core". To make it short, "Bitcoin is Bitcoin".

Bitcoin Cash is Bcash, an altcoin.


Stop. You cannot bring the Core developers to their level. Core is composed of the best minds in the whole cryptocurrency community. If your proposals are not good enough for them, then they will not be included in their repository. But you are free to start your own Bitcoin implementation or start your own hard fork like what Bitcoin Cash has done.

i told you before craig is a scammer.

do you not actually read. seems not instead you turn into a reddit sheep to repeat core support statements along with thier well known buzzwords.
i have repeatedly said this. at first i thought that you wre new, and just niave to the state of the community. but your over use of knwn buzzwords and you constant band camp drama concentration is not making m think you are indocrinated into core

so lets make it clear. i said:

NO ONE...
NO ONE..
NO ONE
should own the brand

this whole pointing the finger at ver is just drama to get sheep to vote core as king.
(point your finger at khloe so kim can be queen kardashian)
yes i detest core. but that does not meam anyone that detests core should be automatically shoved into another camp/fanclub.

you really do need to learn about decentralisation and independance because its becoming obvious all you can see is camps that people need to be put in. meaning its starting to become obvious that any discussion on decentralisation/independance will be lost on you

as for the turning into a sheep to read out a core script. well when i see you use the core invented buzzwords "bigblockers" and you only attack ver/wu but you have refused to add jgarzic(who actually made bitcoin cash)  into your attack. its obvious your repeating something you read on reddit and had no independant thought or research

i bet you didnt even know about jgarzics involvement because the core reddit scripts never mentioned it.

anyway when you use well known buzzwords, it reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PStpvviPgxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZVv2AOCnaA

it even gets worse when your repeating the same statement years after that script began, its like your stuck a few years behind
let me guess you were dying to find an oppertunity to say core are "conservative" as a reason you defend core.. yea yea yea we all heard that script its not unique or original

so you might want to take a few days to reset yourself. take a few steps back and stop just repeating the reddit mindset

have a good few days off restting yourself. i hope one day shep wake up and start having an original thought, as its becoming too obvious that core seem to be forming a centralist group

Because you are. You are biased and arguing for his statement that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin", which is a stupid argument to start with.

If you have that kind of argument, then I say that Bitcoin Clashic is the real Bitcoin Cash, http://bitcoinclashic.org/

I assume you also support Roger Ver's fraudulent tendencies? What can you say about his support for Craig Wright as the real Satoshi Nakamoto?


Make the thread and let us discuss it on its own.

I doubt if this particular case or the publicity around it could impact Bitcoin's price so much. While the general public and newbies might give these stories some weight, I don't think the price gets impacted.

Roger Ver is not a "true libertarian", he is not a libertarian at all. He is an avid businessman who wants a lot of money and fame.

lol, it's an unappealing action even rogerver always gives a comparison between BCH and BTC, so who's right? that he also wants you to throw your BTC for BCH so he holds more of your BTC

Some people suggest it and when you commit a large-scale fraud or just a matter of time an influential person becomes his victim.

fake bitcoin? how bitcoin can be faked?
if indeed he harms the crowd I strongly agree if he is prosecuted because it will reduce further investors and destroy the ICO project due to the absence of investors who believe

Roger Ver deliberately misled people on his website "bitcoin.com". Marking BCH as bitcoin is not a mistake for a professional website. It will mislead novice and hurt new investors' enthusiasm for encryption.

this is bad news for Bitcoin users, and should be law as fair as it is.

hopefully the authorities will understand this.

and can solve this problem cleanly.

 how he handled things, that really warrants a class action lawsuit, though I doubt they would really get into it.
 What he did from a consumer's perspective is fraudulent and you can't defend that no matter how you put it in the court.
 Nobody owns bitcoin nor bitcoin cash, sure, but misleading people to buy your 'product' (technically, Roger Ver is the face of bitcoin cash and he advertises the hell out of it) while they wanted to buy another product is fraud. I hope that they really are enthusiastic in getting this thing off so as to put Ver behind bars. A once smart man lowered to the ranks of a scum.

What you say is true pushups44 but Ver seems to think because he is a whale because he was an early investor in Bitcoin start-ups he has an automatic right to direct the way Bitcoin develops. He was behind Bitcoin Cash because he could not have any influence over Bitcoin. No whale has an automatic right to dictate the direction of future development.

As for names and memes are concerned some most members of the community that dislike Bitcoin being called Bitcore Core by the Bitcoin Cash fanclub, they are calling Bitcoin Cash Bcash just because Ver REALLY dislikes it

the thing is. you keep thinking im defending ver..
page after page all i have said is BOTH sides of the same family of centralists are doing kardashian drama.

but you keep on thinking that if someone is not a kim fan they must be a kylie fan..
i am a fan of neither khloe(P.wuille (core)) or kim(jgazic (cash))
and
certainly not a fan of kanye west(ver).. nor kylie jenner(theymos) - both ego drama queens with no talent
and
im not a fan of robert kardashian(barry silbert)

its all one big drama event you pull two sides of the same rope.
but all you can see is there is only a single rope to pull and only one side should win.
you dont see that its a rigged game and both players are both sponsored by the same team
trying to get everyone in on the game so that either way robert kardashian(barry silbert) get the brand name

i personally see it as a no one should trademark "kardashian" so that even little lady down the road can be a kardashian or a teenager at school can be a kardashian. without lawsuits and licences being required.

it seems like you dont want to take the core defence hat off to wear a decentralisaed no on owns brand bitcoin hat.



i guess you missed the links to the funding
i guess you skipped over the links to the bilateral split data. even when it was links provided by your kings
i guess you missed the code provided by your own kings