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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 05, 2023, 09:44:20 PM

What happened:: Rollbit scammed me for $255, banned my account and claims I'm an abuser

Scammers Profile Link: Rollbit.com

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed: 255
Payment Method: LTC, USDT
Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/QMMU9uV
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/4gcXPWt
Additional Notes: I registered on April 4, immediately found out about rollbit, on bitcointalk, made a deposit with litecoin and started playing, bought two bonuses, in a cube where I received 500x and a dog house, after I put 98 usdt on the withdrawal, there was an even amount of $ 400 on the balance, on the next day (today) I go to live nba, make one bet (I watched this match) on the total quarter, the bet wins, I withdraw 400 dollars, they approved this withdrawal, after I put a withdrawal of 255 dollars, and they give me a manual check where, after checking, they tell me that I am a casino abuser. Lol, just funny, because of one bet? recognize me as a scammer and an abuser? Well, it's just a laugh. https://imgur.com/a/pEPqevp (screenshot of a casino game). Unfortunately, there is no screenshot of my NBA bet, and no new output screenshots either because they blocked my account. I also wrote to them in a chat in the discord where they immediately banned me (apparently it is not profitable for them to let their players know who they really are). I logged in from another discord account, and look how they communicate... https://imgur.com/a/qxfujUZ . They sit, laugh at me, say that I'm a scammer and just giggle, they clearly don't care about everything that happens, is it possible to communicate like that from the administration? 0 respect and no etiquette for site admins.

P.S I ask the community to help solve my issue, rollbit really banned me for no reason.

rollbit.com is scam site
referral employee always leave long several quotes.
just do withdraw user money.

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Quote from: holydarkness on April 23, 2023, 03:07:42 PM

Without an ADR, the accuser could only relies to the licensor if Rollbit didn't answer to that thread --same situation for OP of any other future cases. I might will ask the same question you asked here on that thread if they ever replied there again. Thank you for this.

I see it as a big flag not wanting to disclose such information. In that case, I can only recommend that players get in touch with the licensing institution directly and ask them what to do next. In Rollbit's case, they operate under a Gaming Curacao (GC) license.

The official website and contact form unsatisfied players can fill out is below:
http://www.gaming-curacao.com/#section-contact

Yeah, feel free to ask Rollbit Razer the same thing if you think it will help to find the name of the service.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 22, 2023, 09:04:51 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on April 22, 2023, 08:28:38 AM

Have you got any reply from Razer? He was online a few days ago to address an issue on different thread. I think if they have a mediator to facilitate sportsbet disputes, he would have told us.

No. Rollbit Razer never replied to me. I sent the PM on 12 April. I doubt he didn't see it. I guess he didn't consider it important to respond and inform me about that. That's on him.

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Yeah, he should have seen your PM. Perhaps his silence was because there were no ADR that mediate disputes against them. That'll be quite a rather unfortunate situation for the other case I was attending. Without an ADR, the accuser could only relies to the licensor if Rollbit didn't answer to that thread --same situation for OP of any other future cases. I might will ask the same question you asked here on that thread if they ever replied there again. Thank you for this.

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Quote from: holydarkness on April 22, 2023, 08:28:38 AM

Have you got any reply from Razer? He was online a few days ago to address an issue on different thread. I think if they have a mediator to facilitate sportsbet disputes, he would have told us.

No. Rollbit Razer never replied to me. I sent the PM on 12 April. I doubt he didn't see it. I guess he didn't consider it important to respond and inform me about that. That's on him.

This is a copy of the message I sent to Rollbit Razer:

Quote from: holydarkness on April 22, 2023, 08:28:38 AM

Judging from OP's lack of activity, maybe Rollbit's final say on this case has a truth behind it, but an info about sportsbetting mediator for Rollbit will be a nice info, given recently there are several active and open case against them.

Perhaps OP wasn't telling the truth or he gave up. He hasn't been online for 10 days.
Since Rollbit Razer didn't want to reply over PM, all I can do is ask one more time publicly: Which mediation service(s) can players contact if they have a sports betting-related complaint?

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 12, 2023, 10:10:57 AM

I have sent a PM to Rollbit Razer and asked him directly which mediation sites unsatisfied players can turn to when it's a matter of sport betting-related problems.
If he replies with some useful information, I will post the information here.

I share holydarkness' thoughts and believe they said what they wanted to say.

Have you got any reply from Razer? He was online a few days ago to address an issue on different thread. I think if they have a mediator to facilitate sportsbet disputes, he would have told us.

Judging from OP's lack of activity, maybe Rollbit's final say on this case has a truth behind it, but an info about sportsbetting mediator for Rollbit will be a nice info, given recently there are several active and open case against them.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 09, 2023, 01:36:18 AM

Rollbit Razer has already posted in the thread, saying they are aware of the player's activities and that they have had accounts on Rollbit before that have been banned. Since the previous account(s) got banned for sports abuse, it safe to assume the most recent one was also banned.

The only question that remains is whether hugarden2 is the person Rollbit suspects them to be.

I do not think any gambling site is suspect without any valid reason. They may use several factors to detect the same (similar person). As they have already aware of the OP and claim OP had accounts earlier that would be enough to ban an account for having multiple accounts.

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I have sent a PM to Rollbit Razer and asked him directly which mediation sites unsatisfied players can turn to when it's a matter of sport betting-related problems.
If he replies with some useful information, I will post the information here.

I share holydarkness' thoughts and believe they said what they wanted to say.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 11, 2023, 04:16:39 PM

I think rollbit should be flagged as a scam because they don't want to give any comments intentionally, they play games and refuse to solve the problem. I can assume they don't have any evidence.

Except that they've give a comment regarding your issue, their security and anti fraud detection system matched your ID with known accounts evading sportsbet limitation. That's their final say, I think. You can't demand them to give detailed info of their detection here for public to read.

If you still want to pursue this matter and sure you're the right side, you can do what Pmalek suggested by contacting a third party mediator. I took a quick glance and didn't find them on thePogg, gamblescope, casinomeister, and askgamblers, though. They're on CasinoGuru, but CG are not handling a sportbet-related disputes.

Quote from: Pmalek on April 07, 2023, 08:22:17 AM

Since this case involves an issue with sports betting, I don't think Casino Guru and Ask Gamblers will consider it. I remember they only handle casino disputes looking at some past cases. [...]

AskGamblers accept and intermediate sportsbet-related disputes, but Rollbit isn't on their list.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 09, 2023, 01:36:18 AM

Quote from: shasan on April 08, 2023, 04:06:50 PM

Can you record the proof on video and post the link of the video here to see what's going on.

OP claims their account has been banned, so there is nothing to take a video of. All they could do is take a video of unsuccessfully trying to log in to their account.
Rollbit Razer has already posted in the thread, saying they are aware of the player's activities and that they have had accounts on Rollbit before that have been banned. Since the previous account(s) got banned for sports abuse, it safe to assume the most recent one was also banned.

The only question that remains is whether hugarden2 is the person Rollbit suspects them to be.

I think rollbit should be flagged as a scam because they don't want to give any comments intentionally, they play games and refuse to solve the problem. I can assume they don't have any evidence.

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Quote from: shasan on April 08, 2023, 04:06:50 PM

Can you record the proof on video and post the link of the video here to see what's going on.

OP claims their account has been banned, so there is nothing to take a video of. All they could do is take a video of unsuccessfully trying to log in to their account.
Rollbit Razer has already posted in the thread, saying they are aware of the player's activities and that they have had accounts on Rollbit before that have been banned. Since the previous account(s) got banned for sports abuse, it safe to assume the most recent one was also banned.

The only question that remains is whether hugarden2 is the person Rollbit suspects them to be.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 05, 2023, 09:44:20 PM

Rollbit scammed me for $255, banned my account and claims I'm an abuser

I do not trust they have scammed you 255$ or they can scam this type of amount even multiple times of this amount. I think they are right that you have abused their system that's why they have blocked you. Can you record the proof on video and post the link of the video here to see what's going on. As screenshot can be manipulated easily.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 07, 2023, 12:52:58 PM

Isn't it easier to provide some evidence here?

It surely would be easier, but you won't find many casinos willing to share any sort of evidence publicly for everyone to see.

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 07, 2023, 12:52:58 PM

I'm sure that they don't give a damn and they won't write anything else here, they have such an attitude towards the players.

If you got that opinion about Rollbit, even more reason to request a mediator to step in and take a look at your story and the evidence the casino has against you. The way things stand now, you are not getting your money back as Rollbit believes you are guilty. No one here can possibly know if you are or aren't.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 07, 2023, 09:50:06 PM

I understand that they pay, etc., but they clearly made a mistake with me, and I didn’t break anything, I don’t know how else to prove it, it’s just nonsense, they themselves clearly don’t want to participate in the branch, and at least somehow contribute problem solving. starting with the fact that they just blocked me on discord.

Why are you wasting your time here? If you are confident about your case, Go and open a file on the mediation service that they accept. I've asked their support team if they allow VPN usage. Their answer was "We respect the privacy of our users, so we therefore allow the usage of VPNs. However, we do not permit their usage to circumvent our Terms and Conditions related to country restrictions." So, Yes. They allow VPN Usage.

But, If you are from a restricted region, but are using a VPN. You violating the rules. if you used a Free VPN and its IP match with someone else IP, It's not Rollbit's fault. There is no way you can prove that this account is not yours. They blocked you because of your misbehavior. You could ask them politely, and you may have a better chance of getting a response from them.

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I understand that they pay, etc., but they clearly made a mistake with me, and I didn’t break anything, I don’t know how else to prove it, it’s just nonsense, they themselves clearly don’t want to participate in the branch, and at least somehow contribute problem solving. starting with the fact that they just blocked me on discord.

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To be honest, for this typical case.

There always both side providing explanations:
- The casino: Thell the user is abusers or make some activity against their rules.
- User: Tell them they not doing anything.

But, I always see from the type case. It's not really new for me, if there has some case against the casino from "Sportbook" side I don't know why I more prefer trusted the casino rather than a user.

Because It's always the ones who has problems are always sportsbook users. Meanwhile, it's really rare to see any kind of problem against the casino from "CASINO" user. I have some activity in 'RollBits' withdraw more than 1,000$ without any issue, like If they want to scam people why not just chasing an account with huge money rather than a small one.

Another reason, why most of casinos never reveal any kind of proof (or there has some terms & conditions they can easily block/shutdown your account without any explanation). Because they don't want how the detection system are getting reveal to avoid sportsbook abuser user are easily to passed that.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 07, 2023, 08:22:17 AM

Since this case involves an issue with sports betting, I don't think Casino Guru and Ask Gamblers will consider it. I remember they only handle casino disputes looking at some past cases. You will have to find someone else. Some services that were mentioned before include The Pogg, Casinomeister, and Gamblescope.

I don't know anything about the quality of neutrality of their services, though. That's something you will have to check yourself.

Isn't it easier to provide some evidence here? or at least write something on this occasion in this topic, I'm sure that they don't give a damn and they won't write anything else here, they have such an attitude towards the players. Yes, you are right, my case is related to stakes and asgamblers will not deal with this.

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Since this case involves an issue with sports betting, I don't think Casino Guru and Ask Gamblers will consider it. I remember they only handle casino disputes looking at some past cases. You will have to find someone else. Some services that were mentioned before include The Pogg, Casinomeister, and Gamblescope.

I don't know anything about the quality or neutrality of their services, though. That's something you will have to check yourself.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 10:49:21 PM

I used Russian vpn because our state banned this site because they don't pay taxes. There is no vpn ban in their rules. However, Russia is not part of the banned countries, and without a vpn I physically could not enter.

I am sure that they will not have evidence, or they will replace them in order to defend their mistake and reputation for my ban.

How sure are you that they don't have evidence or they will manipulate it to justify their mistake if there is, it's your call to get a third-party mediation like many of us here recommended because it's unlikely that they are going to change their decision because they have their security system in place to track double accounts and they can only show this to a party who they trust if you want to proceed you can message sites like askgamblers.com they have done this in the past or this thread will remain open and unresolved but likely in favor of Rollbit.

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Quote from: John Abraham on April 06, 2023, 09:27:54 PM

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 03:37:00 PM

I had never played anything on rollbit before this time.

What's the deal anyway? I came here to deal with the situation, as a result, everyone writes that I am to blame, not knowing the whole situation, there is no evidence, there is nothing! holydarness" and "Pmalek". The rest just write here to work out their signature company?

At first, Signature Company doesn't require participants to post on the Scam accusation board. So, whoever writes here, writes with genuine interest. I hope you got it.

As You can see, They are confident with their decision. They accused you of creating multiple accounts and said your old account was banned from their casino while you claimed you did not play there before. Is there any possibility that someone from your house/office uses Rollbit using the same internet? Or, Did you use VPN to register or play on Rollbit? Those could be the possibility if you did not lie. Still, If you are also confident, You can file a complaint at ask-gamblers or whatever mediation service they support.

@Rollbit Razer, Would you mind cooperating with 3rd Party mediation service, as OP claims he did not play on Rollbit before? If so, Which Mediation service do you guys support? Of course, we don't want to see a bad reputation on your platform.

I used Russian vpn because our state banned this site because they don't pay taxes. There is no vpn ban in their rules. However, Russia is not part of the banned countries, and without a vpn I physically could not enter.

I am sure that they will not have evidence, or they will replace them in order to defend their mistake and reputation for my ban.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 03:37:00 PM

I had never played anything on rollbit before this time.

What's the deal anyway? I came here to deal with the situation, as a result, everyone writes that I am to blame, not knowing the whole situation, there is no evidence, there is nothing! holydarness" and "Pmalek". The rest just write here to work out their signature company?

At first, Signature Company doesn't require participants to post on the Scam accusation board. So, whoever writes here, writes with genuine interest. I hope you got it.

As You can see, They are confident with their decision. They accused you of creating multiple accounts and said your old account was banned from their casino while you claimed you did not play there before. Is there any possibility that someone from your house/office uses Rollbit using the same internet? Or, Did you use VPN to register or play on Rollbit? Those could be the possibility if you did not lie. Still, If you are also confident, You can file a complaint at ask-gamblers or whatever mediation service they support.

@Rollbit Razer, Would you mind cooperating with 3rd Party mediation service, as OP claims he did not play on Rollbit before? If so, Which Mediation service do you guys support? Of course, we don't want to see a bad reputation on your platform.

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