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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 04:37:00 PM

What's the deal anyway? I came here to deal with the situation, as a result, everyone writes that I am to blame, not knowing the whole situation, there is no evidence, there is nothing! holydarness" and "Pmalek". The rest just write here to work out their signature company?

You came here to try to get paid.

Lot's of players do this. Some of them are victims of scam casinos, some are trying to scam the casino.

You have a lot of red flags, like how you tried to bring attention to your slots play and not the sports bet when obviously it's the sports bet that's the issue.

I think you have some way of getting ahead of the live line changes, and you did it for your NBA bet. Rollbit flagged your single live bet win and cashout attempt, investigated, and found a link to your previous accounts where you did the same thing.

Personally I have an issue with the way so many otherwise reputable sports books continue to allow themselves to be exploited with live bet lines lagging somehow, which in turn forces them to seize funds to discourage it. But if you're going to come here and lie about the situation, I wouldn't expect much support.

That's the deal anyway.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on April 06, 2023, 07:11:18 PM

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 04:37:00 PM

I had never played anything on rollbit before this time.

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do to prove this. It's basically your word against their's.
The casino, on the other hand, could have given you a chance to prove you are not the same person as the one they suspect to be your alt by asking both of you to submit your documents and verify your identities. I don't know why they didn't do so before permanently banning your accounts!
Right now, I don't see how this case can be solved without resorting to mediation!

They just know who they are dealing with based on the information generated by their security system, so they do not bother to ask for documents although its necessary before banning the account, they seem confident that OP will fail in their KYC, and I agree that OP's only recourse is a third party mediation he can prove his innocence or prove that Rollbit is right all along.

Quote from: Rollbit Razer on April 06, 2023, 02:15:34 PM

OP here is a prolific sportsbook abuser, previously banned from our platform for circumventing sportsbook limits (creation of new accounts).

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 04:37:00 PM

I had never played anything on rollbit before this time.

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do to prove this. It's basically your word against their's.
The casino, on the other hand, could have given you a chance to prove you are not the same person as the one they suspect to be your alt by asking both of you to submit your documents and verify your identities. I don't know why they didn't do so before permanently banning your accounts!
Right now, I don't see how this case can be solved without resorting to mediation!

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 06, 2023, 03:01:02 PM

@Rollbit Razer, quite glad that you could reply here, It would have been nice to see how you can detect abusers but I'm sure it would pose a risk to your process of how you catch them.

They can easily do that because they can trace the location of the IP and the devices their payers are doing, when two accounts are using the same information it will have an alarm for that account, of course, they cannot do screenshots to post here, but if OP wants it they can ask a trusted third party to do that Betcoin.ag has done that by undergoing this party mediation through askgamblers, its up to OP if he wants to pursue this.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 06, 2023, 04:24:53 PM

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 02:47:04 PM

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The problem is it's not your "bitcointalk" account.

It's because you are getting prohibited due to abuse and then opening another account again. If the player are getting banned due the abused or something like broke their team & condition, that's mean they are no longer to be accepted for the service.

If they broke another rules by opening new account while he already being banned, casino are gonna to block you again.

I had never played anything on rollbit before this time.

What's the deal anyway? I came here to deal with the situation, as a result, everyone writes that I am to blame, not knowing the whole situation, there is no evidence, there is nothing! holydarness" and "Pmalek". The rest just write here to work out their signature company?

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 02:47:04 PM

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The problem is it's not your "bitcointalk" account.

It's because you are getting prohibited due to abuse and then opening another account again. If the player are getting banned due the abused or something like broke their team & condition, that's mean they are no longer to be accepted for the service.

If they broke another rules by opening new account while he already being banned, casino are gonna to block you again.

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 06, 2023, 03:01:02 PM

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 02:47:04 PM

Quote from: Rollbit Razer on April 06, 2023, 02:15:34 PM

Firstly, thanks for the message about this thread holydarkness!

OP here is a prolific sportsbook abuser, previously banned from our platform for circumventing sportsbook limits (creation of new accounts).

Unsurprisingly, and similar to their other attempts to abuse our service, they've also created a new account to complain here.

We've invested significant resources into technology that allows us to catch abusers like this, we're confident with our decision here.

So a new account on bitcointalk is abuse and abuse? what the hell? The fact that I registered with you two days ago is also an indicator? that is, any new player can be blocked and you will charge him with abuse? aren't you funny? I played for the first time on your site, and I can say with confidence that you were mistaken.

I have never been registered on rollbit up to this point, and have not heard of it at all, I was looking for a crypto casino in the gambling section and came across rollbit, but unfortunately they think that I am an abuser, how so?

looks like they are confident in their decision and the only thing you can do now is either continue complaining here or complain to their license provider regarding this issue.

@Rollbit Razer, quite glad that you could reply here, It would have been nice to see how you can detect abusers but I'm sure it would pose a risk to your process of how you catch them.

Of course, I believe that they have a reputation, they pay money, etc., but what happened to me, I am 100% sure that this is a mistake, a sports betting abuser would not play in a casino, if the purpose of an abuser is to play in a sports book, however, I was sitting playing in a casino, risking my money, and immediately making one bet on the NBA, they classify me as an abuser.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 02:47:04 PM

Quote from: Rollbit Razer on April 06, 2023, 02:15:34 PM

Firstly, thanks for the message about this thread holydarkness!

OP here is a prolific sportsbook abuser, previously banned from our platform for circumventing sportsbook limits (creation of new accounts).

Unsurprisingly, and similar to their other attempts to abuse our service, they've also created a new account to complain here.

We've invested significant resources into technology that allows us to catch abusers like this, we're confident with our decision here.

So a new account on bitcointalk is abuse and abuse? what the hell? The fact that I registered with you two days ago is also an indicator? that is, any new player can be blocked and you will charge him with abuse? aren't you funny? I played for the first time on your site, and I can say with confidence that you were mistaken.

I have never been registered on rollbit up to this point, and have not heard of it at all, I was looking for a crypto casino in the gambling section and came across rollbit, but unfortunately they think that I am an abuser, how so?

looks like they are confident in their decision and the only thing you can do now is either continue complaining here or complain to their license provider regarding this issue.

@Rollbit Razer, quite glad that you could reply here, It would have been nice to see how you can detect abusers but I'm sure it would pose a risk to your process of how you catch them.

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Quote from: Rollbit Razer on April 06, 2023, 02:15:34 PM

Firstly, thanks for the message about this thread holydarkness!

OP here is a prolific sportsbook abuser, previously banned from our platform for circumventing sportsbook limits (creation of new accounts).

Unsurprisingly, and similar to their other attempts to abuse our service, they've also created a new account to complain here.

We've invested significant resources into technology that allows us to catch abusers like this, we're confident with our decision here.

So a new account on bitcointalk is abuse and abuse? what the hell? The fact that I registered with you two days ago is also an indicator? that is, any new player can be blocked and you will charge him with abuse? aren't you funny? I played for the first time on your site, and I can say with confidence that you were mistaken.

I have never been registered on rollbit up to this point, and have not heard of it at all, I was looking for a crypto casino in the gambling section and came across rollbit, but unfortunately they think that I am an abuser, how so?

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Firstly, thanks for the message about this thread holydarkness!

OP here is a prolific sportsbook abuser, previously banned from our platform for circumventing sportsbook limits (creation of new accounts).

Unsurprisingly, and similar to their other attempts to abuse our service, they've also created a new account to complain here.

We've invested significant resources into technology that allows us to catch abusers like this, we're confident with our decision here.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 06, 2023, 09:02:05 AM

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Get in touch with their forum admin if you believe you are innocent.
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If you aren't, don't waste time by prolonging the inevitable.

I've take that into my plate, the PM notifying rollbit about this thread has been sent, just in case they set their inbox to block PM from newbies. Also, again, just in case, I also sent the same PM to Rollbit Razer.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 06, 2023, 09:02:05 AM

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:18 AM

but is it worth blocking the player's funds for his "bad talk"?

You weren't banned for what you said, but for what they believe you did. The discord screenshots mention sportsbook abuse and using multiple accounts. If you had previous accounts on Rollbit (which you won't admit if you have), they would have noticed them while doing their manual checks. That and some sports betting abuse are the reasons for your ban, not the fact you made one bet or talked badly with their staff.

Get in touch with their forum admin if you believe you are innocent.
Rollbitcom

If you aren't, don't waste time by prolonging the inevitable.

I had $400 on my balance, I bet on the first quarter of the NBA $235 at odds of 2.13, Detroit-Brooklyn, total 69 points for the 1st quarter, she won, I managed to withdraw $400, 255 remained on my balance and 6-8 more dollars that I lost. I bet 255 dollars to withdraw funds and after that my account was blocked.

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A typical site for scammers. the smart player is instantly limited. if they accidentally drop someone, they close their account. they are only looking for people to deposit through advertising campaigns

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 06, 2023, 05:28:53 AM

your account wasn't banned because you are bad talking their support.

yes, the casino didn't ban OP's account for bad talking their support. admittedly it would be frustrating, but from what that shows, the OP must have made a mistake when he played the sportsbook. and that is the reason OP's account was banned.
I don't see the nominal, but for a casino reputation that has lasted quite well. the amount is too small for them to pay if there is no problem with the OP's account.

Quote from: LEVSKI7 on April 06, 2023, 09:15:20 AM

These Rollbits are also criminals. no rules no control this scum messes with people

stop doing it, you won't get anything. looking at the reputation of your account, no one will believe you.

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These Rollbits are also criminals. no rules no control this scum messes with people

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:18 AM

but is it worth blocking the player's funds for his "bad talk"?

You weren't banned for what you said, but for what they believe you did. The discord screenshots mention sportsbook abuse and using multiple accounts. If you had previous accounts on Rollbit (which you won't admit if you have), they would have noticed them while doing their manual checks. That and some sports betting abuse are the reasons for your ban, not the fact you made one bet or talked badly with their staff.

Get in touch with their forum admin if you believe you are innocent.
Rollbitcom

If you aren't, don't waste time by prolonging the inevitable.

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try posting this on casino.guru they might be able to help your case or perhaps be able to get a more detailed answer than the ones you already got from their support/discord server.

Quote from: hugarden2 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:18 AM

Quote from: John Abraham on April 05, 2023, 11:24:11 PM

I read the Full Conversation between you and the Support Agent. Weirdly, Rollbit Takes that long to check withdrawals.
I would ban/block you as well if you talk like this. You don't have to freak out and react like this when you face issues in online casinos. I believe if you were not rude to the support agent, you would likely get a response from them, and you could continue talking with them. They blocked you just because of your rude behavior.

I suggest you contact them again via Live Support or Email and write your words politely. Suppose you don't get any response from them. Contact their Forum Representative account as they are active in this forum. They continue to maintain their reputation over the years. They are unlikely to ruin their reputation for 255 Dollars.

- John

How should I react when I am ignored by a live agent support? when they block me on discord? I was good-natured with them when they wrote me to wait for the withdrawal of funds, but is it worth blocking the player's funds for his "bad talk"?

I understand that being denied withdrawal without knowing the reason can be frustrating but from what I have seen it is most likely a protocol for casinos to ban gamblers who are spamming, rude, and cussing from chat and their other social platform. also, from what I have seen from the chat you shared, your account wasn't banned because you are bad talking their support.

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Quote from: hugarden2 on April 05, 2023, 10:44:20 PM

I registered on April 4, immediately found out about rollbit, on bitcointalk, made a deposit with litecoin and started playing, bought two bonuses, in a cube where I received 500x and a dog house, after I put 98 usdt on the withdrawal, there was an even amount of $ 400 on the balance, on the next day (today) I go to live nba, make one bet (I watched this match) on the total quarter, the bet wins, I withdraw 400 dollars, they approved this withdrawal, after I put a withdrawal of 255 dollars, and they give me a manual check where, after checking, they tell me that I am a casino abuser.

When did you make the bet on the total for the quarter.

Was it at the very end of the quarter?

You didn't make any other bets between when you withdrew 400 and requested 255?

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When there is something fishy about your account activity, the casino provider has procedures in place to deal with your withdrawals. it will take longer. inconvenient but most casinos do.
from your screenshot, your account is banned due to abuse of sportsbook rules. I hope you read the rules first, maybe you missed something.
but to clarify maybe you can contact a Rollbit representative to come to this thread.

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Quote from: John Abraham on April 05, 2023, 11:24:11 PM

I read the Full Conversation between you and the Support Agent. Weirdly, Rollbit Takes that long to check withdrawals.
I would ban/block you as well if you talk like this. You don't have to freak out and react like this when you face issues in online casinos. I believe if you were not rude to the support agent, you would likely get a response from them, and you could continue talking with them. They blocked you just because of your rude behavior.

I suggest you contact them again via Live Support or Email and write your words politely. Suppose you don't get any response from them. Contact their Forum Representative account as they are active in this forum. They continue to maintain their reputation over the years. They are unlikely to ruin their reputation for 255 Dollars.

- John

How should I react when I am ignored by a live agent support? when they block me on discord? I was good-natured with them when they wrote me to wait for the withdrawal of funds, but is it worth blocking the player's funds for his "bad talk"?

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