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January 08, 2025, 03:47:28 PM
#57

You can't dictate someone to call you what and/or to treat you in a way that you much preferred. This is an open public forum, literally thousands of people with diversity of background, culture, behavior, preferences, and all that we can think or are probably appeared here.

Far as I know [that's me being low-key saying "I know to a great extent"] that AHOY is a great guy. He has a very strong principle. An amazing one, if I may add, as he's very outspoken... soooo outspoken that he doesn't bother to speak up about the casinos he's currently [in the past] wearing and at times, more than a dozen times, TBH, I had this urge to smack the back of his head with a pan or something else solid.

And reasonable one too.


I know I can't dictate anybody, as I said 'please' in every word. You can't dictate no one, and no one is entitled to do this, I know that.

For AHOY, I sincerely believe he is a good person; I can feel that, however would be better to see that side of him. I + your sayings about him. I am also a outspoken person like him as well (you have come to terms of it, I know)

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I don't want to mudding the water, but I believe if you really really read the other people's post history, the other one that he's referring to, with an unbiased eyes, you would agree that he's a bit... interesting, in a sense that I'll leave to free interpretation.

Far as I can observe from a very long and frequent time my path brushed with AHOY, he's not one that will call names first unless the other side started it, or... the situation kinda warrant for it.


I have read the history and I understand what you are saying; I don't want to tell bad words to a person that is probably grieving financial losses at the moment. I Don't want to comment on it since, I don't know if his accusation is valid or not; but I get the idea of what you mean. I approve his support on my case and his nice words to me , though.

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While we're at it, not trying to provoke you, but rather to give you a brain exercise and to urge you to learn to see things from several sides before jumping into conclusion, I deliberately snip your post in above fashion as that two parts of your post is related yet the exact opposite.

Won't you agree that if you feel annoyed and entitled to be pissed about AHOY calling you clown, then DaveF and owlcatz are also entitled to feel offended with that 0 IQ monkey and circus player? Especially as all they do is exercising their right to call a judgment over a situation.

Instead, I don't think they even bother.

Much like I ignored the baseless jabs and name-calling that other user repetitively called me across thread [I got notified whenever my name being mentioned].

Why? Because they're fully aware that this is an open forum, this is not an elementary school where telling the teacher that someone scolded you or called you funny names will earn that someone a slap in their wrist. This is the world, thick skin and partially deaf ear is needed.

Take that long-wall-of-text as you will, but that's a genuine benevolent advise, not an attempt to provoke or anything with negative connotation.

I don't think it as a long-wall-of-text; I read every word you write to me, don't mix me with other people please.

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That's actually a genuine offer.

Do you want me to do as you previously asked and provide my honest opinion? Mind that [I am not sure how this next sentence can not be perceived as a threat, but rest assured that it is not, it's a simple fact] my opinion is currently locked inside Pandora's Box, a can of worm, spray-bomb money bag, or whichever analogy you prefer.

But no, I don't think anyone will judge you if you tell me to keep my opinion for myself. I don't think they could care less, since they haven't heard about it or have the slightest clue of what I have in mind. Why would they think less about you just because you asked for my opinion, I replied, "uhh... might not a good idea, you bumped your head last night with the juggling cone," and then you say, "shut your mouth."

You can do whatever you believe is the best way to do. I won't am not entitled to say anything about this. Thanks for asking it.

Whatever you find is respected.

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Nope, TBH, IMHO, no one will get a wrong message of what I tried to convey other than you [the other --if I may borrow AHOY's word-- '"clown" aside, of course, as they're here to throw muds and stir pots and brew a witch concoction]. One of the easiest way to prove this is that none commented or jumping to same conclusion as you when you keep saying that I am threatening you. Maybe they have other reason, but I would like to think and believe that it's because they can see that it's more to "juggling ability" scenario than me threatening you.

Well said, but it wasn't seen like that from my side, thanks for giving detailed explanation about this.


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What peace needs an offering?

Like I said here, much that what you said in the past annoyed me [I won't disclose what emergency I had during that time of silence, but I am sure I am entitled to taking myself out of the forum whenever I want or need], I have to have a thicker skin, a selectively deaf ear, and sudden-selective blindness to thrive on this forum where I try to bridge casinos and players, especially when the ruling are against the player's wish. Tantrum are almost always warranted.

I get over it, as long as no more jabs and name calling thrown, because though this skin is thick and this ear is deaf, things can get annoying when it happen during a rainy day [or perhaps I have to say a clear sky and scorching bright sun, since that's the weather that irritates me, I love rainy and cloudy day].

I believe me writing to Razer after they made their second ruling kinda gave it out? If that's not obvious enough?

Yes, thanks for your PM to him; even tough i don't have any details about it, I believe you have tried the best you could. About the past, I am sorry for my foul language and bad actions again.

I hope to hear from you again.

Tetaeridanus.
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January 07, 2025, 01:19:43 AM
#56


@AHOYBRAUSE,  [AHOYBRAUSE: HolyDarkness' Partner in Stake-Endorsed Scams] AKA [ Stake's Court Jester, Eddies Boot licker]

Your post is filled with assumptions and inaccuracies that seem designed more to provoke than to contribute meaningfully to this discussion. Let me address your points one by one:  

1. Gambling addict blackmailing casinos
   It's easy to throw around baseless accusations without any evidence. I’ve been transparent in raising issues with specific casinos, providing detailed documentation and proof of unethical practices like rigged games, misleading promotions, and illegal payment methods. This is not blackmail—it’s advocacy for fairness and justice. If you think standing up against exploitation is clownish, I’ll happily wear that badge.  

2. Forum is not the place to go for problems with casinos
   If this forum is “just a Bitcoin forum,” why does it have a scam accusation section? Isn't it to expose bad actors in the crypto and gambling space? Stake and other platforms are deeply intertwined with crypto, making this a highly relevant platform to raise awareness.  

3. Nobody here cares about it anymore
   It’s clear from the engagement and ongoing conversations that many people *do* care. Victims deserve a voice, and this forum gives them a chance to share their experiences. Silence and apathy only empower unethical operators.  

4. Self-implosion and hate speech
   While I can’t speak for others, I’ve consistently maintained a professional tone in my posts. Criticizing companies for their malpractices isn’t hate speech; it’s accountability. If anyone has crossed the line, that’s on them—not an excuse to discredit legitimate concerns.  

5. Sites focusing on mediation
   Mediation platforms can only do so much, especially when casinos operate in legal gray areas or outright ignore complaints. Public exposure is often the only way to force accountability.  

Instead of dismissing genuine grievances, I suggest you approach discussions with more empathy and less condescension. Victim-blaming only serves to protect unethical companies, and that's the real clownish behavior.  
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January 06, 2025, 03:27:46 PM
#55
Hey holydarkness,

I have nothing against you, and also support your mediating actions for this forum as you have said to AHOYBRAUSE.

Let me tell you about politeness; AHOYBRAUSE continues on calling me a "clown" in my thread, what about that?

[...]

Also for the two people you are mentioning on DT; owlcatz is a circus player with that kind of proof for opposing and you know it, and DT should look for this matter.

I won't talk about DaveF because he seems to understand the whole situation wrongly, didn't even read (owlcatz also) that I already got compansated 800 USD for the site's mistake, and why I got it; but continued on blabbering nonesense. I don't think this two oppositions are valid; a 0 IQ monkey would also see this. Don't try to think much.


You can't dictate someone to call you what and/or to treat you in a way that you much preferred. This is an open public forum, literally thousands of people with diversity of background, culture, behavior, preferences, and all that we can think or are probably appeared here.

Far as I know [that's me being low-key saying "I know to a great extent"] that AHOY is a great guy. He has a very strong principle. An amazing one, if I may add, as he's very outspoken... soooo outspoken that he doesn't bother to speak up about the casinos he's currently [in the past] wearing and at times, more than a dozen times, TBH, I had this urge to smack the back of his head with a pan or something else solid.

And reasonable one too.

I don't want to mudding the water, but I believe if you really really read the other people's post history, the other one that he's referring to, with an unbiased eyes, you would agree that he's a bit... interesting, in a sense that I'll leave to free interpretation.

Far as I can observe from a very long and frequent time my path brushed with AHOY, he's not one that will call names first unless the other side started it, or... the situation kinda warrant for it.

While we're at it, not trying to provoke you, but rather to give you a brain exercise and to urge you to learn to see things from several sides before jumping into conclusion, I deliberately snip your post in above fashion as that two parts of your post is related yet the exact opposite.

Won't you agree that if you feel annoyed and entitled to be pissed about AHOY calling you clown, then DaveF and owlcatz are also entitled to feel offended with that 0 IQ monkey and circus player? Especially as all they do is exercising their right to call a judgment over a situation.

Instead, I don't think they even bother.

Much like I ignored the baseless jabs and name-calling that other user repetitively called me across thread [I got notified whenever my name being mentioned].

Why? Because they're fully aware that this is an open forum, this is not an elementary school where telling the teacher that someone scolded you or called you funny names will earn that someone a slap in their wrist. This is the world, thick skin and partially deaf ear is needed.

Take that long-wall-of-text as you will, but that's a genuine benevolent advise, not an attempt to provoke or anything with negative connotation.

Anyways,
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"Perhaps at this mental state [no offense] you perceive everything as an attack, or perhaps that's just your default setting."

This is definetely not my default setting, and I am going through a rough emotional time this last months. Thanks for understanding.

From your perspective, if I imagine we are buddies; yes, we are not; hope to be in future. However you do everything a buddy don't do.

You continue on with the "I will tell public if you want" sayings;

Which makes me under spotlight; to accept or not accept both are not ways to go.

That's actually a genuine offer.

Do you want me to do as you previously asked and provide my honest opinion? Mind that [I am not sure how this next sentence can not be perceived as a threat, but rest assured that it is not, it's a simple fact] my opinion is currently locked inside Pandora's Box, a can of worm, spray-bomb money bag, or whichever analogy you prefer.

But no, I don't think anyone will judge you if you tell me to keep my opinion for myself. I don't think they could care less, since they haven't heard about it or have the slightest clue of what I have in mind. Why would they think less about you just because you asked for my opinion, I replied, "uhh... might not a good idea, you bumped your head last night with the juggling cone," and then you say, "shut your mouth."

If you want to watch and see, please do so. But please, don't continue on with these types of messages. I get them wrong, also many will; and I don't want to continue discussing off-topic for both you and my sake.


Nope, TBH, IMHO, no one will get a wrong message of what I tried to convey other than you [the other --if I may borrow AHOY's word-- '"clown" aside, of course, as they're here to throw muds and stir pots and brew a witch concoction]. One of the easiest way to prove this is that none commented or jumping to same conclusion as you when you keep saying that I am threatening you. Maybe they have other reason, but I would like to think and believe that it's because they can see that it's more to "juggling ability" scenario than me threatening you.

I hope you understand my peace offer.



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Warm regards.

Tetaeridanus.

What peace needs an offering?

Like I said here, much that what you said in the past annoyed me [I won't disclose what emergency I had during that time of silence, but I am sure I am entitled to taking myself out of the forum whenever I want or need], I have to have a thicker skin, a selectively deaf ear, and sudden-selective blindness to thrive on this forum where I try to bridge casinos and players, especially when the ruling are against the player's wish. Tantrum are almost always warranted.

I get over it, as long as no more jabs and name calling thrown, because though this skin is thick and this ear is deaf, things can get annoying when it happen during a rainy day [or perhaps I have to say a clear sky and scorching bright sun, since that's the weather that irritates me, I love rainy and cloudy day].

I believe me writing to Razer after they made their second ruling kinda gave it out? If that's not obvious enough?
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January 06, 2025, 02:18:11 PM
#54

Perhaps at this mental state [no offense] you perceive everything as an attack, or perhaps that's just your default setting. But try to see it with a different glasses, for a second?

You asked for my opinion about your flag and the entire sub-topic surrounding it. In other words, the case itself. I, with reference to the older post where I say I --summarized-- know this board and its past cases like the back of my hand told you as above, that you don't want me to write in public.

That is not --at least not intended to be as-- a threat, that's a friendly gesture of declining to pitch in, in order to not necessarily stir the pot, as reflected in the part where I wrote, "this is me waiting and see, with a splash of that "OP's shoes and Rollbit's glasses".

Imagine it like this, we're two buddies where I know a thing or two about you. We're in a party, or in a street, or in whatever setting you preferred to be, where a group of people's attention are shifted towards you, and you asked me to tell them, publicly, what I think of your juggling ability. Knowing one or two things about that juggling ability and what my opinion will bring to the public, I said, "oh, trust me, you don't want me to give my opinion about that".

That is a threat... how?

Though, to further clarify the snippet, "the cat is actually already out of the bag", as one or two attentive people actually already mentioned their opinion about the topic.

Is that understandable? And is that still perceived as a threat? And, most importantly, do you still want me to tell the public what I think? Because, you see, I initially shied away from it because I don't want to stir the pot, for your sake. But it seems it make things worse as it spin differently in your head. So, if you still really want to know my opinion, just holler, and I'll give my best to explain what I think about this case in details, to help us all get over it.

Hey holydarkness,

I have nothing against you, and also support your mediating actions for this forum as you have said to AHOYBRAUSE.

Let me tell you about politeness; AHOYBRAUSE continues on calling me a "clown" in my thread, what about that?

Anyways,
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"Perhaps at this mental state [no offense] you perceive everything as an attack, or perhaps that's just your default setting."

This is definetely not my default setting, and I am going through a rough emotional time this last months. Thanks for understanding.

From your perspective, if I imagine we are buddies; yes, we are not; hope to be in future. However you do everything a buddy don't do.

You continue on with the "I will tell public if you want" sayings;

Which makes me under spotlight; to accept or not accept both are not ways to go.

If you want to watch and see, please do so. But please, don't continue on with these types of messages. I get them wrong, also many will; and I don't want to continue discussing off-topic for both you and my sake.

I hope you understand my peace offer.



Also for the two people you are mentioning on DT; owlcatz is a circus player with that kind of proof for opposing and you know it, and DT should look for this matter.

I won't talk about DaveF because he seems to understand the whole situation wrongly, didn't even read (owlcatz also) that I already got compansated 800 USD for the site's mistake, and why I got it; but continued on blabbering nonesense. I don't think this two oppositions are valid; a 0 IQ monkey would also see this. Don't try to think much.

Warm regards.

Tetaeridanus.


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January 06, 2025, 04:39:40 AM
#53
ineedhelpplease, thank you for the kind words.

AHOYBRAUSE, if I may argue about this forum is not the place to go when someone encountered a problem with a casino, to an extent, yes, it is correct, when cases got complicated and sensitive information is needed to be provided to validate the findings and rulings, yes, the forum is severely limited at it and is far inferior to ADR bodies.

But, if I may give my opinion for small cases, like a pending withdrawal, or a [legit case] of inability to perform KYC due to some...thing on the casino's KYC page, I think this forum serves its purpose better, in sense of faster resolution and response. Granted, CG and AG can "enforce" the rep to reply within certain time frame [one week, extended to another one week, and probably another extension of one week if the mediator deemed fit], while a reply here is a bit hit or miss.

Over time though, I managed to establish connections with staffs of casinos in a direct contact, which make reaching them for a resolution [again, IMHO] far faster than if we get it to CG.

Thus, my default suggestion and approach to cases is to try to deescalate it first by having them tried here, see if we can get the rep to give their side and/or get the situation resolved. And when that failed, we move it to the higher authority.



[...]
Holydarkness openly threats me, you stay silent; but a ‘disgusting’ word is offensive?

I have apologized to him, but you seem to not forget about that situation.

What an objective man you are.

We have many clowns under the thread, but not one of them is me.



Edit = nothing changes the fact I had a solid case against rollbit and it was dodged thanks to the well explained (s) opposition of two Default Imbeciles.

[Another long inhale and even longer exhale]

I can't believe I have to spell it out to you. But, let's do it.

This is the exact part of the post being referenced,

[...]
What do you think about this? It is important for me.

Thanks in advance.

Tetaeridanus.

At this point? Trust me, you don't want me to write in public on what I think about this. Paragraph 20 of the same post I linked above would have a relation to this.

Some might argue that this is me abusing my DT power by "being silent" and not pointing the obvious [though the cat is actually already out of the bag] or perhaps a chance to question my judgment capability. But I'll argue that this is me waiting and see, with a splash of that "OP's shoes and Rollbit's glasses".
[...]

Perhaps at this mental state [no offense] you perceive everything as an attack, or perhaps that's just your default setting. But try to see it with a different glasses, for a second?

You asked for my opinion about your flag and the entire sub-topic surrounding it. In other words, the case itself. I, with reference to the older post where I say I --summarized-- know this board and its past cases like the back of my hand told you as above, that you don't want me to write in public.

That is not --at least not intended to be as-- a threat, that's a friendly gesture of declining to pitch in, in order to not necessarily stir the pot, as reflected in the part where I wrote, "this is me waiting and see, with a splash of that "OP's shoes and Rollbit's glasses".

Imagine it like this, we're two buddies where I know a thing or two about you. We're in a party, or in a street, or in whatever setting you preferred to be, where a group of people's attention are shifted towards you, and you asked me to tell them, publicly, what I think of your juggling ability. Knowing one or two things about that juggling ability and what my opinion will bring to the public, I said, "oh, trust me, you don't want me to give my opinion about that".

That is a threat... how?

Though, to further clarify the snippet, "the cat is actually already out of the bag", as one or two attentive people actually already mentioned their opinion about the topic.

Is that understandable? And is that still perceived as a threat? And, most importantly, do you still want me to tell the public what I think? Because, you see, I initially shied away from it because I don't want to stir the pot, for your sake. But it seems it make things worse as it spin differently in your head. So, if you still really want to know my opinion, just holler, and I'll give my best to explain what I think about this case in details, to help us all get over it.
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January 06, 2025, 02:51:03 AM
#52
I don't mean to go off topic but I don't understand any of the hate against Holydarkness and some of it is like laughable.

The whole idea of him being some sort of "casino puppet master" seems like some sort of conspiracy meme.

Going off my past experience the dude helped explain my situation and I was able to understand it fully from Rollbit's perspective because of him. Everything was absolutely straightforward with our previous interactions and he also PMed Razer to help with the situation, which is all great and he was also trying to help recover the money I lost from FTX after the Rollbit situation was over. (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380) If you read the thread it doesn't feel like anything bad that was claimed here, other than the whole "You didn't read TOS" which I do not even see bad. This is true and TOS should always be looked at, especially when you're trusting other people/businesses. Unfortunately in my case, I lost whats around $20K today because of my own fault. It was horrible back then but at some point (In this case it was very quickly for me) I did realize it was my fault, and Rollbit had to act what seemed very irresponsible to most people who are unfamiliar with how these gambling sites worked purely for legal reasons. Holydarkness has far more experience with them than we do and we shouldn't hate on the man for speaking the truth about our situations.

Nothing was "dodged"

I wasn't being "mocked"

And like in most situations it would be the players' faults.

There's a whole lot more I can say but truly it doesn't make sense. I fail to understand how he mocks people or whatever accusations are like that and I highly doubt he's being paid by the casinos for these posts defending them. He is only being honest, and eventually you're gonna have to be a man and accept defeat. Eventually, you're literally going to have to accept that you've lost the case, even if it is painful to you. At least we get to learn from it. And I'm 100% sure that if he sees a gambling company in the wrong then he will call them out in a respectful manner, which I can bet has happened before. I can only see him being "paid by casinos" if he's in a signature campaign, which anyone with a high rank can apply to those.

Because both these people are clowns. One guy is a gambling addict that has nothing else to do than blackmailing one casino after the other in this forum and the other (even though he had a solid case against rollbit) has driven into hate speech because he didn't get the help he thought he was entitled to. Then he insulted Holy personally which then withdrew from his case, easy as that and totally understandable
Simple case of self implosion. If he kept his composure, Holy would have done more, be he didn't. Now he is only hating and spamming, making several threads that nobody here cares about anymore because he showed his true face.

If you have a problem with a casino this forum is NOT the place to go to. There are sites on focussing on mediation between players and sites, this is just a bitcoin forum that also has a scam section. Some people don't understand that unfortunately.


Hello AHOYBRAUSE,

I respect your opinion on me,

How about you also give your opinion about the clowns who try derailing my topic?

For sure, I will answer them; I am no idiot to get framed and stay silent.

Holydarkness openly threats me, you stay silent; but a ‘disgusting’ word is offensive?

I have apologized to him, but you seem to not forget about that situation.

What an objective man you are.

We have many clowns under the thread, but not one of them is me.



Edit = nothing changes the fact I had a solid case against rollbit and it was dodged thanks to the well explained (s) opposition of two Default Imbeciles.

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January 06, 2025, 01:55:35 AM
#51
I don't mean to go off topic but I don't understand any of the hate against Holydarkness and some of it is like laughable.

The whole idea of him being some sort of "casino puppet master" seems like some sort of conspiracy meme.

Going off my past experience the dude helped explain my situation and I was able to understand it fully from Rollbit's perspective because of him. Everything was absolutely straightforward with our previous interactions and he also PMed Razer to help with the situation, which is all great and he was also trying to help recover the money I lost from FTX after the Rollbit situation was over. (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380) If you read the thread it doesn't feel like anything bad that was claimed here, other than the whole "You didn't read TOS" which I do not even see bad. This is true and TOS should always be looked at, especially when you're trusting other people/businesses. Unfortunately in my case, I lost whats around $20K today because of my own fault. It was horrible back then but at some point (In this case it was very quickly for me) I did realize it was my fault, and Rollbit had to act what seemed very irresponsible to most people who are unfamiliar with how these gambling sites worked purely for legal reasons. Holydarkness has far more experience with them than we do and we shouldn't hate on the man for speaking the truth about our situations.

Nothing was "dodged"

I wasn't being "mocked"

And like in most situations it would be the players' faults.

There's a whole lot more I can say but truly it doesn't make sense. I fail to understand how he mocks people or whatever accusations are like that and I highly doubt he's being paid by the casinos for these posts defending them. He is only being honest, and eventually you're gonna have to be a man and accept defeat. Eventually, you're literally going to have to accept that you've lost the case, even if it is painful to you. At least we get to learn from it. And I'm 100% sure that if he sees a gambling company in the wrong then he will call them out in a respectful manner, which I can bet has happened before. I can only see him being "paid by casinos" if he's in a signature campaign, which anyone with a high rank can apply to those.

Because both these people are clowns. One guy is a gambling addict that has nothing else to do than blackmailing one casino after the other in this forum and the other (even though he had a solid case against rollbit) has driven into hate speech because he didn't get the help he thought he was entitled to. Then he insulted Holy personally which then withdrew from his case, easy as that and totally understandable
Simple case of self implosion. If he kept his composure, Holy would have done more, be he didn't. Now he is only hating and spamming, making several threads that nobody here cares about anymore because he showed his true face.

If you have a problem with a casino this forum is NOT the place to go to. There are sites on focussing on mediation between players and sites, this is just a bitcoin forum that also has a scam section. Some people don't understand that unfortunately.
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January 05, 2025, 10:23:10 PM
#50
I don't mean to go off topic but I don't understand any of the hate against Holydarkness and some of it is like laughable.

The whole idea of him being some sort of "casino puppet master" seems like some sort of conspiracy meme.

Going off my past experience the dude helped explain my situation and I was able to understand it fully from Rollbit's perspective because of him. Everything was absolutely straightforward with our previous interactions and he also PMed Razer to help with the situation, which is all great and he was also trying to help recover the money I lost from FTX after the Rollbit situation was over. (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380) If you read the thread it doesn't feel like anything bad that was claimed here, other than the whole "You didn't read TOS" which I do not even see bad. This is true and TOS should always be looked at, especially when you're trusting other people/businesses. Unfortunately in my case, I lost whats around $20K today because of my own fault. It was horrible back then but at some point (In this case it was very quickly for me) I did realize it was my fault, and Rollbit had to act what seemed very irresponsible to most people who are unfamiliar with how these gambling sites worked purely for legal reasons. Holydarkness has far more experience with them than we do and we shouldn't hate on the man for speaking the truth about our situations.

Nothing was "dodged"

I wasn't being "mocked"

And like in most situations it would be the players' faults.

There's a whole lot more I can say but truly it doesn't make sense. I fail to understand how he mocks people or whatever accusations are like that and I highly doubt he's being paid by the casinos for these posts defending them. He is only being honest, and eventually you're gonna have to be a man and accept defeat. Eventually, you're literally going to have to accept that you've lost the case, even if it is painful to you. At least we get to learn from it. And I'm 100% sure that if he sees a gambling company in the wrong then he will call them out in a respectful manner, which I can bet has happened before. I can only see him being "paid by casinos" if he's in a signature campaign, which anyone with a high rank can apply to those.
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January 05, 2025, 08:40:21 AM
#49
Hello @kingbj21 ,

I value your opinion on the matter, however please let’s try to not derail the topic here.

Personal direct messaging just derails this topic, and the threatening grammar from holydarkness tempered me; however no need for insults please.

I, as a grieving victim talker warmly; and got sarcasm as response.

No need to say anything about this matter; but no insults please.

Warm regards.

Hello @tetaeridanus,

I must say, your calm and composed approach speaks volumes about your character. It’s admirable to see someone like you maintain dignity and thoughtfulness even in the face of adversity. I genuinely value your perspective here.

However, there’s a crucial difference between grieving victims seeking justice and individuals like HolyDarkness, who hide behind a facade of neutrality while actively undermining those they should be supporting. A fake identity, as you rightly point out, does more harm than good in conversations like these.

People like HolyDarkness thrive on evasion and misdirection, wearing masks of reason to cover the trail of their biased agendas. Exposing such behavior isn’t about insults; it’s about ensuring transparency and integrity. The truth is the ultimate equalizer, and it must be brought to light for the sake of everyone seeking fairness.

If nothing else, let this thread stand as a testament to the resilience of victims and the courage of those who refuse to let deception prevail. Thank you for grounding this discussion with your insight—your presence here adds meaning to the fight for accountability.
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January 04, 2025, 11:10:22 AM
#48
Hello @kingbj21 ,

I value your opinion on the matter, however please let’s try to not derail the topic here.

Personal direct messaging just derails this topic, and the threatening grammar from holydarkness tempered me; however no need for insults please.

I, as a grieving victim talker warmly; and got sarcasm as response.

No need to say anything about this matter; but no insults please.

Warm regards.
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January 04, 2025, 10:57:36 AM
#47
Hello holydarkness, what do you mean as guilty?

Did you see the DT owlcatz reasoning for opposition?

Isn't abuse of DT or power banned in this forum?

What am I quilty for, If I may ask? Asking for my redemption?

Thanks.

As I said on my reply that you quoted, I believe I've make my view of this case extremely clear. Feel free to revisit our entire conversation as I am not in the mood to write another wall of text that I've already written several times.

About DT, I've also explained this to you. He's entitled to his opinion. If he think your flag deserve an opposition, then frankly, he's entitled to oppose it, just like people are entitled to support the flag with each of their own reasoning.

IF the DTs think owlcatz abuses his DT power, they will extensively discussing it and take action for it. So my advise [again] is to leave that be out of your concern for the time being. I believe you're well understand that you can't force one's will and opinion to others? Well, more or less, that's what applied here.

Holydarkness,

While I was writing my reply to you,

 I saw that you posted a reply to this thread and I wanted to answer this;

[...]
As I mentioned on the earlier paragraph, though, it does not translate as me closing my eyes. I simply wait [and ignore all of the jabs you throw at me] for Rollbit compliance team's conclusion. After that...

[...]

I have numerously times thanked for your gesture about this, why did this topic came here?

Simple. That person above us believe I continuously shifting blames to players [semantics applied here], so instead of throwing tantrum and writing offensive sentences, I do what adult do: challenge him of his statements.

I believe we all can see and understand and agree that the point he tried to say is that I am taking Rollbit's side and shift the blame to you, so there, instead of arguing with empty words and name-calling, I take action in line with how this board works: evidence. I provide an evidence as a rebuttal that disputed his claim that I have a recurring pattern of shifting blame to users.

Broken down, it's a question of how exactly I shifted blame to users [and inferred, taking side of the casinos, not trying to get platform on a "higher standard"] while I go to a length that I barely do to other casinos to get this player something.

While we're at it, Blossom15, I am being serious here, I am waiting for those explanation and list. This is not me exfoliating my skin so it is not as thick as it used to be, or cleaning my ears that it is not as selectively-deaf as it was in the past, nor washing my eyes so the partial blindness eased considerably.

This is being tired of parrying and taking jabs and reminding people that at a public forum, free speech does not equal to freedom of consequences. So, Blossom15, own your words and prove your statements.

While you quoted it, I may ask; if Razer still didn't reply, do you think this is a apporpriate action accordingly?

Refer to paragraph 14 of this post [that's the one with "One, that is my..."], plus, Razer actually has not been online since I wrote that PM [last online as per when this post was made is 17th Dec], so there are a very huge chance he has not read that message.

We can see that only 2 DT's opposed the flag to this day with both unjustified evidence, unlike all the evidence I have shown.

You can also count the people that replied to that thread, and majority seems like saying I deserve compansation.

Refer to the post about "DT politics" and what I wrote above about owlcatz.

What do you think about this? It is important for me.

Thanks in advance.

Tetaeridanus.

At this point? Trust me, you don't want me to write in public on what I think about this. Paragraph 20 of the same post I linked above would have a relation to this.

Some might argue that this is me abusing my DT power by "being silent" and not pointing the obvious [though the cat is actually already out of the bag] or perhaps a chance to question my judgment capability. But I'll argue that this is me waiting and see, with a splash of that "OP's shoes and Rollbit's glasses".

[...]

So this accusation will be closed based on these fools?

I will boldly assume you're referring to the status on my list.

On that case, no, as I said, that thread is not authoritarian, I will be waiting for the final verdict by DTs vote by 31st January and use that as the verdict of your case.

If the flag is active, then I'll mark it as "unresolved". On the contrary, if the flag remains inactive, then I'll take the exhaustive step we've taken [you contacting support, me having Razer to get it retried without other dept. past decision influencing the outcome, me PMing him for a middle way] is a conclusion that the case is indeed a no-case. Thus, resolved.

in case you're not familiar with it, as you raised a type-3 flag, you'll need 3 DT supporting the flag than the ones opposing it, and currently you're at -1, as there is 1 DT supporting and 2 DT opposing [1-2=-1], means you'll at least need 4 more DTs support [1-=4=3=active], unless the opposing DT retract their opposition.

I am waiting for your warm reply holydarkness.

This writings are nothing personal to you, but my outburst of this situation.

Tell me, if I am getting the response I deserve here.

Best regards.

Tetaeridanus.

So that is my answer. Either it's warm or cold or harsh, I leave you to decide. I am hoping that the effort I take [it took me about an hour, TBH] to make this post does not meet with the same series of jabs you gave me in the past, as I don't want to regret my decision on onca again dipping my toe on this case.


"HolyDarkness: The Casino Puppet Master with Zero Strings Attached to Reality"  

Ladies and gentlemen, let’s take a moment to admire the sheer audacity of HolyDarkness, a guy so committed to his casino-pimping lifestyle that he’s turned gaslighting victims into an art form.  



 Holy Lies, Batman!  

“I’m drafting on mobile,” he says, like we’re gullible enough to believe this nonsense.  

1. Writing essays on mobile?  
   - Do you have the fingers of a pianist and the stamina of a marathon runner? No one churns out 2,000-word essays on a tiny screen without making it look like a kindergarten ransom note.  
   - Post your draft timestamps, show us your mobile drafts in progress, or quit this charade. You’re not multitasking on-the-go; you’re parked somewhere drafting in Word like the amateur spin doctor you are.  

2. Are you even a gambler?  
   - How much have YOU wagered? Because we’re tired of your lectures about casino practices when your real-life gambling experience is probably limited to flipping Monopoly money.  
   - If you’ve never wagered your hard-earned cash and faced losses due to rigged systems, then shut your pie hole. You have ZERO authority to mock victims.  



 The Anatomy of a Hypocrite  

HolyDarkness doesn’t just fail to advocate for victims; he actively ridicules them. He wears the mask of reason while wielding a dagger to the backs of anyone seeking accountability.  

- “I’m neutral.”  
   - Neutrality is a myth when you’re constantly siding with casinos and finding ways to invalidate complaints. If neutrality is your badge, your uniform’s long overdue for a recall.  

- "I’m waiting for proof."  
   - Proof? You can’t even prove your own arguments! You evade questions, twist narratives, and drown threads in pseudo-intellectual garbage.  



 Casino Trivia: Let’s School the “Expert”  

1. What’s the exact house edge of American roulette?  
   - It’s 5.26%, by the way, in case your mobile fingers can’t Google fast enough.  
2. How do provably fair algorithms ensure transparency in crypto casinos?  
   - Spoiler alert: they don’t fully guarantee fairness, and the loopholes are wide enough to drive a truck through.  
3. Define variance in gambling terms.  
   - Don’t know? Then how are you qualified to even speak about gambling at all?  



 Blow-by-Blow Breakdown of His Hypocrisy  

1. Mocking Victims:  
   - You treat every legitimate grievance like a joke while propping up casino narratives.  
   - Your condescending tone doesn’t intimidate—it just highlights your lack of empathy and makes you look like a paid clown.  

2. Dodging Accountability:  
   - You throw around big words and vague ideas, yet when cornered, you duck behind generic platitudes. Answer the questions or sit down.  

3. Blaming the Players:  
   - “They didn’t read the terms.” Neither did you, apparently, considering how often you parrot incomplete casino policies.  



 Unmasking the Puppet Master  

Question for HolyDarkness:  

- How much are the casinos paying you? Is it per post or per victim gaslit?  
- When will you stop hiding behind your fake neutrality and admit you’re nothing but a glorified casino shill?  

If you think you’re untouchable, think again. Your verbose nonsense isn’t intellectual; it’s cowardice wrapped in thesaurus vomit.  



 Endgame  

You’re not a protector of truth, you’re an enabler of fraud. Your elaborate essays and dismissive replies are just tools to suppress the voices of victims. You’re not here to resolve conflicts—you’re here to ensure the house always wins.  



HolyDarkness, you’re done. Your mask is shattered, your lies are exposed, and your credibility is non-existent. If you can’t even defend yourself without spinning in circles, then get off the stage.  

This thread deserves clarity and justice—not your casino-approved garbage.
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January 04, 2025, 07:41:55 AM
#46
I am asking seriously.

To make me look like a clown? Or turning me in to a circus show?
Man, first you need to catch your breath and calm down a bit. You are making a circus out of this here, and you have turned "your final message" into a thread of 40+ final messages.
You are asking here for the others to explain why they support or use your flag, and if you don't like some of the explanations, you start with insults and provocations. Your approach turns even those who had the intention of helping you to become disinterested in your case.

p.s. Is this your first and only account on this forum (not counting 14z4rus, which is obvious), I have seen your writing style before, but not by good reputation.

I have not seen any intention of people who are trying to help here when some people tried to de-rail my topic. I am always at fault right? How can I respect someone who opposes just because he can? Doing so with evidence is different, without evidence and doing it just because he can.

I am sorry if my behavior disintrested you in following my topic.

However, unlike holydarkness; like he said, I am the one who is get thrown punches here.

And for your question, 14z4rus is a real life aquitance of mine; not me. Who came for support. Just like many of you have here..

I don’t understand; who are you talking about? This is my first and only account.

I am ready to escrow any amount to anyone who can prove me otherwise.

If you are accusing such allegations (not you), prove it. I am telling this to blantant liars.
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January 04, 2025, 07:33:54 AM
#45
I am asking seriously.

To make me look like a clown? Or turning me in to a circus show?
Man, first you need to catch your breath and calm down a bit. You are making a circus out of this here, and you have turned "your final message" into a thread of 40+ final messages.
You are asking here for the others to explain why they support or use your flag, and if you don't like some of the explanations, you start with insults and provocations. Your approach turns even those who had the intention of helping you to become disinterested in your case.

p.s. Is this your first and only account on this forum (not counting 14z4rus, which is obvious), I have seen your writing style before, but not by good reputation.
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January 03, 2025, 10:35:34 PM
#44
Is this what you get after you apologize to a man?

Is this how you should be talking to a person who feels victimized?

I don’t think so.

If you really wanted the best of both worlds, you could pm when instead of threating me that if you go public; I wouldn’t want that.

Seems like you don’t put yourself in my shoes. If you did, you would know how wrong this sentence is, and offending.

You already knew I was gonna reaction to this, so why are you giving hints for me to temper up?

What is your motive?

I am asking seriously.

To make me look like a clown? Or turning me in to a circus show?

I am in desperate times, and I cannot fathom how your words have angered me.



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January 03, 2025, 03:58:46 PM
#43
No one is waiting to throw jabs at you, however sentences like ‘you don’t want me to write in public’ or ‘cat is out of the bag’ can be seen as offensive to any individual. I pick my words carefully, however you do not seem so. This behaviour of you is very very wrong. Especially in a paragraph where you are talking to someone else as well.

Does ‘cat is out of the bag’ means 2 losers DTs oppose my flag? Go ahead and join them. Will show your decision making.

So you and a few individual are smarter than all the people who answered to my thread? Because, yes; cat is out of the bag, and that cat is the reality of a thief casino owner and puppets on payroll.

If that is so, and if you are so sure that I am %100 gulity; who ahead and join those 2 DTs, what’s stopping you? Splatter dishonesty on your resume. Go ahead.

What type of language is this? This is not how someone who voluntarily do mediating at this forum should talk like. This is not a high school gossip forum. I am accusing a casino for stealing 50.000 usd; and you are talking in a very foul language like we are both ex boyfriends of a cheerleader.

The only disrespectful person is you here, not me.

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January 03, 2025, 03:30:54 PM
#42
Hello holydarkness, what do you mean as guilty?

Did you see the DT owlcatz reasoning for opposition?

Isn't abuse of DT or power banned in this forum?

What am I quilty for, If I may ask? Asking for my redemption?

Thanks.

As I said on my reply that you quoted, I believe I've make my view of this case extremely clear. Feel free to revisit our entire conversation as I am not in the mood to write another wall of text that I've already written several times.

About DT, I've also explained this to you. He's entitled to his opinion. If he think your flag deserve an opposition, then frankly, he's entitled to oppose it, just like people are entitled to support the flag with each of their own reasoning.

IF the DTs think owlcatz abuses his DT power, they will extensively discussing it and take action for it. So my advise [again] is to leave that be out of your concern for the time being. I believe you're well understand that you can't force one's will and opinion to others? Well, more or less, that's what applied here.

Holydarkness,

While I was writing my reply to you,

 I saw that you posted a reply to this thread and I wanted to answer this;

[...]
As I mentioned on the earlier paragraph, though, it does not translate as me closing my eyes. I simply wait [and ignore all of the jabs you throw at me] for Rollbit compliance team's conclusion. After that...

[...]

I have numerously times thanked for your gesture about this, why did this topic came here?

Simple. That person above us believe I continuously shifting blames to players [semantics applied here], so instead of throwing tantrum and writing offensive sentences, I do what adult do: challenge him of his statements.

I believe we all can see and understand and agree that the point he tried to say is that I am taking Rollbit's side and shift the blame to you, so there, instead of arguing with empty words and name-calling, I take action in line with how this board works: evidence. I provide an evidence as a rebuttal that disputed his claim that I have a recurring pattern of shifting blame to users.

Broken down, it's a question of how exactly I shifted blame to users [and inferred, taking side of the casinos, not trying to get platform on a "higher standard"] while I go to a length that I barely do to other casinos to get this player something.

While we're at it, Blossom15, I am being serious here, I am waiting for those explanation and list. This is not me exfoliating my skin so it is not as thick as it used to be, or cleaning my ears that it is not as selectively-deaf as it was in the past, nor washing my eyes so the partial blindness eased considerably.

This is being tired of parrying and taking jabs and reminding people that at a public forum, free speech does not equal to freedom of consequences. So, Blossom15, own your words and prove your statements.

While you quoted it, I may ask; if Razer still didn't reply, do you think this is a apporpriate action accordingly?

Refer to paragraph 14 of this post [that's the one with "One, that is my..."], plus, Razer actually has not been online since I wrote that PM [last online as per when this post was made is 17th Dec], so there are a very huge chance he has not read that message.

We can see that only 2 DT's opposed the flag to this day with both unjustified evidence, unlike all the evidence I have shown.

You can also count the people that replied to that thread, and majority seems like saying I deserve compansation.

Refer to the post about "DT politics" and what I wrote above about owlcatz.

What do you think about this? It is important for me.

Thanks in advance.

Tetaeridanus.

At this point? Trust me, you don't want me to write in public on what I think about this. Paragraph 20 of the same post I linked above would have a relation to this.

Some might argue that this is me abusing my DT power by "being silent" and not pointing the obvious [though the cat is actually already out of the bag] or perhaps a chance to question my judgment capability. But I'll argue that this is me waiting and see, with a splash of that "OP's shoes and Rollbit's glasses".

[...]

So this accusation will be closed based on these fools?

I will boldly assume you're referring to the status on my list.

On that case, no, as I said, that thread is not authoritarian, I will be waiting for the final verdict by DTs vote by 31st January and use that as the verdict of your case.

If the flag is active, then I'll mark it as "unresolved". On the contrary, if the flag remains inactive, then I'll take the exhaustive step we've taken [you contacting support, me having Razer to get it retried without other dept. past decision influencing the outcome, me PMing him for a middle way] is a conclusion that the case is indeed a no-case. Thus, resolved.

in case you're not familiar with it, as you raised a type-3 flag, you'll need 3 DT supporting the flag than the ones opposing it, and currently you're at -1, as there is 1 DT supporting and 2 DT opposing [1-2=-1], means you'll at least need 4 more DTs support [1-=4=3=active], unless the opposing DT retract their opposition.

I am waiting for your warm reply holydarkness.

This writings are nothing personal to you, but my outburst of this situation.

Tell me, if I am getting the response I deserve here.

Best regards.

Tetaeridanus.

So that is my answer. Either it's warm or cold or harsh, I leave you to decide. I am hoping that the effort I take [it took me about an hour, TBH] to make this post does not meet with the same series of jabs you gave me in the past, as I don't want to regret my decision on onca again dipping my toe on this case.
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January 03, 2025, 02:32:45 PM
#41
To make it easy for you;

Let's see; what a nice opposition reasoning from DT member owlcatz:


This guy is using alt accounts and basically just talking to himself for 3 weeks - OFC I'm going to oppose his flag.

I have no real opinion on whether or not he should technically be repaid, but had it been me, I never would have gambled with 70x leverage
. that's insane, and from the losses they say you incurred, this can't mean too much to you overall. Are you a degenerate gambler and this was your last bitcoins? Huh

What's the real story. They say you won plenty too, or maybe you said that, I can't keep track. Anyhow, as the poster noted, using alts to boost your cause is not going to help here. Roll Eyes


This guy is a paid alt account who didn't even read the topic and tries derailing; Fixelifix;

I am opposing. OP has some sort of problem, just read his posts at casino guru. All got rejected.
Reminder:

https://casino.guru/stake-casino-the-player-s-self-exclusion-failed-2

"The player's self exclusion failed as he was able to play casino games. The case was rejected since the player filled different personal information, as the ones that were used in his initial self-excluded account. Therefore, the system could not prevent him from making deposits or the accounts."

https://casino.guru/rollbit-casino-player-requested-a-refund-of-his-deposits

The player from Turkey was able to open a new account despite an active self-exclusion. After reviewing all available evidence, we ended up rejecting the complaint.

And let's see; a guy named DaveF from DT calls the website scummy but still opposed the flag:


From their T&C 6.1:


As at the time of writing, You are forbidden to register on the Website and / or use our services if You are a resident of any of the following territories:
Afghanistan, Aruba, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bonaire, Curacao........

Or to put it another way. "We are so scummy we don't want local people using us because they can actually do something about it"


Any reccurence? I see reccurance of bullsh*ting by these people. And let's see the 4th opposer;

Micha3elM, LOL.

A worker of Rollbit.com, which is known since his account's birth.

So this accusation will be closed based on these fools?

I am waiting for your warm reply holydarkness.

This writings are nothing personal to you, but my outburst of this situation.

Tell me, if I am getting the response I deserve here.

Best regards.

Tetaeridanus.
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January 03, 2025, 01:41:39 PM
#40
Holydarkness,

While I was writing my reply to you,

 I saw that you posted a reply to this thread and I wanted to answer this;

[...]
As I mentioned on the earlier paragraph, though, it does not translate as me closing my eyes. I simply wait [and ignore all of the jabs you throw at me] for Rollbit compliance team's conclusion. After that...

[...]
[/quote]

I have numerously times thanked for your gesture about this, why did this topic came here?

While you quoted it, I may ask; if Razer still didn't reply, do you think this is a apporpriate action accordingly?

We can see that only 2 DT's opposed the flag to this day with both unjustified evidence, unlike all the evidence I have shown.

You can also count the people that replied to that thread, and majority seems like saying I deserve compansation.



What do you think about this? It is important for me.

Thanks in advance.

Tetaeridanus.
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January 03, 2025, 01:36:05 PM
#39
Supporting your flag would betray my belief that Rollbit are not 100% guilty here, and opposing your flag would betray my belief that you were in tight

So, if not 100%, by what percentage would you say they’re guilty?

As I think I've made my opinion about this case very clear, by an --IMO-- exhaustively long and repetitive explanation, I somehow think that instead of a real curiosity and a query for my stance for this case, the question is more to fish or stir something. So, I'll try a different approach to answer to your question:

By what percentage would you say OP is guilty?

Hello holydarkness, what do you mean as guilty?

Did you see the DT owlcatz reasoning for opposition?

Isn't abuse of DT or power banned in this forum?

What am I quilty for, If I may ask? Asking for my redemption?

Thanks.
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January 03, 2025, 01:34:11 PM
#38
As I think I've made my opinion about this case very clear, by an --IMO-- exhaustively long and repetitive explanation, I somehow think that instead of a real curiosity and a query for my stance for this case, the question is more to fish or stir something. So, I'll try a different approach to answer to your question:

By what percentage would you say OP is guilty?

That’s easy, 0%.

Then the exact same percentage is the number of Rollbit's guilt.

I've explained it in what I believe more than extensive. I am not interested to repeat my long explanation of "wearing OP's shoes and seeing through Rollbit's glasses". I'll suggest you to re-read all of OP's thread and his interaction with me if you can't see why I think the exact same percentage is the number of Rollbit's guilt.

As an arbiter, shouldn’t you also focus on holding these platforms to higher standards instead of consistently shifting blame onto users who may not have been fully aware of the risks?

Fortunately, I am not an arbiter. Is that fact lost to you somehow? But yes, I am focusing on having the platforms on this forum to a better [not necessarily higher] standard, that's why I diligently chasing them to get things resolved.

This seems to be a recurring pattern, and I’m not just referring to this case.

Anyways, I was hoping for a genuine answer and wasn’t setting a trap or whatever. You can choose to respond or not.

Oh? A recurring pattern? Of me "shifting blame onto users who may not have been fully aware of the risks"? Dare I assume, as you write on this thread, that you consider OP's case is also one of that recurring pattern?

Let's suppose for a second that I consistently shifting blame to users [with OP's case included], it's rather interesting, is it not, that as someone who tries to blame the users instead of attempting a better situation and resolution, I seemingly go to an extensive length to get a middle way by keep on nagging Razer?

[...]
As I mentioned on the earlier paragraph, though, it does not translate as me closing my eyes. I simply wait [and ignore all of the jabs you throw at me] for Rollbit compliance team's conclusion. After that...

[...]

Now, as a rebuttal from me, do you mind to do us all a favor and show this concrete proof of me having this recurring pattern of shifting blame? Like you, I am hoping for a genuine answer, but unlike the text that followed, I insist on the answer instead of having you choose to respond or not, as I perceive your words as a libel.

So, certainly, to make it a fact instead of libel, it will be extremely wise to provide evidences to support the statement.
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