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legendary
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I've read through all that happened as explained by Royse777, and what I have to say is that, from this incident, we all have learnt that our reputation on this forum is everything, and that not all that glitters are not always gold, it is said that when something sound too good to be true, it is likely not true, I am sure this Lucy man gave Royse777 what seemed to him to be a good offer which he couldn't easily resist, unknown to Royse777 what the true motive of this Lucy scammers was.
The deed is done, and I hope Royse777 is able to gain back he's reputation, and as for as many of us here, there is a lot of lessons to learn from this, most especially, the managers, not every big offers and truly big, some of them is an exchange for your reputation, we all must be very careful.
legendary
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Dear bitcointalk friends, colleague, competitors (sorry if this sounds bad but it is an unfold truth!)
I really find it stressful when a few are thinking what things I have to hide, why not I bring everything in public?
Yes that has been raised several times by members but I doubt the intended effect was to cause you stress.

Yes, I have many reasons to conduct private. If this is not possible then limit it to a circle at least. It is very important for me not to publicize the blockchain transactions which will easily lead to the online services I use or the wallets I use frequently which even could take back to the main storage I have. Isn't all risky for me?
Probably yes, it could be risky for you to publicise various addresses you use if the intended aim is to maintain privacy. You stating it is important for you to not publicise the blockchain transactions for reasons you stated, though understandable from a certain perspective related to your privacy, it does not satisfy or bring closure to all interested parties.

I didn't want other bitcointalk users to be in trouble who were as helpless as me in this situation. The faces a few of you already showed me, makes me think that sharing them even in private with some of you would be riskier for me, forget about being them in public. If I really need to black out or censor some sections then what is the point to share it at all.
But it appears you did share information related to Bitlucy and your relationship with it, within a closed circle but did not share widely in public threads. Whether your PMs included blockchain transactional details is not known to those excluded from the PM circle but what brings confusion is you wanting to not publicise blockchain transactions yet you stating if you really needed to censor sections there would be no point to share in the first place. Strange contradiction.

Dear Yahoo and JollyGood, maybe privacy does not mean much to you but it matters for me. Looking at how you conduct your business, the theory and strategy you are applying to justify the case, it's not very good for someone to share private info to you, at-least not me.

I think the accusations you made against myself (and yahoo62278) are absurd because privacy by default does mean a lot to everybody.

As for the PMs, it is not a problem for me because I was not looking forward to receiving anything otherwise I would have analysed it and interpreted it in a manner you probably would not have appreciated and it would have been counter-productive to your reasons for sending it in the first place, therefore I understand your reasons for not including me in your PM circle since I am not known for having too much sympathy for those that should know better and of course I have been on occasion called 'harsh' too.

I still fail to understand your real motives for wanting to send PMs to any circle you selected. If you included non-retracted blockchain transactions then you defeated the object of your earlier stated goals of keeping that private. If you included retracted information then you also defeated the object when you stating there would be no point in sending it. Furthermore, if your PMs contained anything else, once again your motives for sending them to a selected circle make no sense unless you state your intentions for sending them.

It's dirty when you pretend to be a friend to benefit your business.
Who is this directed at? Well, yahoo62278 is a signature campaign manager, not me therefore one has to assume it is towards him. Again, the notion that yahoo62278 or any other campaign manager would use the opportunity of your business failures and your misguided conduct in order to benefit their own business is unacceptable.

It seems you are alluding with you out of the way other campaign managers will get more business yet fail to understand the questions and concerns of not only a fellow member but also a fellow campaign manager.

Sorry, I wanted to digest all blames on me but some of you were taking the opportunity to overdo it.
And rightfully so, you should accept the blame for your part in the Bitlucy debacle because who else is to blame apart fro yourself and Bitlucy?

I did not see a single post in this thread where any member has taken the opportunity to add more blame on you than you deserve, on the contrary I see more compassion than I think it deserves but each to their own.
jr. member
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AnotherAlt = Royse777 and LoyceV+Notether are probably Royse or a friend as well.

You just blew what little credibility you had.

That you were right that the Bitlucy story was going to end badly is probably due to pure chance, like the monkey throwing darts and hitting the stock market. You probably can't see Royse777 because he tagged you for being a bounty cheather or member of 1xCrap on your other account, and everything you have said so far was wishful thinking, which in the case of Bitlucy, by chance has coincided with what has happened in the end.



I dont need any credits on this forum. i am here to warn people about Royse777 that he is a scammer and that the forum DT is a big joke with conspiracy.
Still a lot of talking, but right now the ony thing that royse is doing is trying to get away with his scam project, while he is liable for the losses and he should pay the victims.
If another person would have made the posts, he would surely already received -20 at least. And because royse is a fake DT member people spare him. JOKE
Time to pay the victims, you fucking scammer royse
legendary
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AnotherAlt = Royse777 and LoyceV+Notether are probably Royse or a friend as well.

You just blew what little credibility you had.

That you were right that the Bitlucy story was going to end badly is probably due to pure chance, like the monkey throwing darts and hitting the stock market. You probably can't see Royse777 because he tagged you for being a bounty cheather or member of 1xCrap on your other account, and everything you have said so far was wishful thinking, which in the case of Bitlucy, by chance has coincided with what has happened in the end.

jr. member
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Yeah. It is quite strange that some people sympathize with Royse777, who has been promoting scammers for months. It's like he's the victim not guys who trusted him. It was clear from the start that bitlucy would take any excuse not to pay but Royse777 was fine with all the red flags.
jr. member
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Haha I am a troll. But this "troll" was right from the beginning. I already warned people how things will end up and royse777 and his site is a scam project.
AnotherAlt = Royse777 and LoyceV+Notether are probably Royse or a friend as well.
Time for Royse777 to stop the shit talk and pay the victims that he scammed
legendary
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He never pretended to be a friend and you don't know what happened with him taking over some of your campaigns, but I guess I could also ask him to prove how he got this latest job  Cheesy
Unfortunately for Royse, he/she lost more than 1 campaign due to this.

It really looks like someone is making sure that businesses who hire Royse are well aware of his reputation and of his negative trust comments, which is why he's losing jobs.
I'm not taking sides here, just stating the facts.

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Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  Tongue


In business there's rarely any friends, only friends with benefits Grin
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Looks like something's gone wrong between some members in this thread. There has been a polarization, with some attacking on a personal level, which I think is wrong and not the topic of the discussion.
Royse, I understand your defensiveness, but I believe there are still some unanswered questions about your relationship with BitLucy owner and why you promoted his business so long despite its obvious red flags from the beginning. As dkbit98 pointed out, you don't need to reply like this with counterattacks, but rather with evidence and facts. This thread isn't about JollyGood, or yahoo62278, or any other member of this forum; rather, it's about your involvement in the BitLucy case, so there's really no point discussing their history. You did the same thing here when the accusations against the casino started piling up.
sr. member
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So, nowadays people can scam forum members without having any forum account, lol.
The person who wanted to spend ~$10K on Bitcointalk, without having any forum account or website, At a certain period claimed Bitcointalk is a hostile place and decided to cut all connections,, lol.

Bitlucy has a forum account that was created by them a few weeks ago I think. Why do you think they don't have a website? As Royse said, The Lucy guy created the website and came back to Royse with the link.

Your secrets are safe with me as I sent PM earlier to assure you. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.
It was me who deleted the chat because that group was temporary to only have the group conversation between three of us. We conducted many recruiting and with all of them there were similar temporary groups which were deleted after successful or unsuccessful hire.

Thank you very much. TBH I didn't look for the group anymore when I saw there was a lot of drama happening on Bitcointalk. Thanks for the explanation.
legendary
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Curious mind wants to know if Lucy [the mysterious guy] is watching these fights !!
If the guy is someone from bitcointalk and used Royse777's reputation by tricking him (which is the case here I think, Lucy used Royse777 reputation as face value), he is definitely watching all these. However, that's not the case here, that's not the purpose of this thread either.
legendary
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It seems now started personal attacking,,  Smiley

So, nowadays people can scam forum members without having any forum account, lol.

The person who wanted to spend ~$10K on Bitcointalk, without having any forum account or website, At a certain period claimed Bitcointalk is a hostile place and decided to cut all connections,, lol.

Curious mind wants to know if Lucy [the mysterious guy] is watching these fights !!
legendary
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Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  Tongue
History of JollyGood matches very well for the side he took in this case too. JollyGood is out of question for me. A hundred dollar per week for few weeks was not going to change anything for me so there were no manager issue from me. But yahoo taken his notes on this.

I really do not understand yahoo's crying. Stretching anything is fine but it seems he will not be satisfied no matter how far the situation is stretched. Did he feel bad because I did not give him attention that why did I not share him whatever I shared with few users?
1st you were not in mind like there are many others.
2nd I wanted to share with the people who were already involved in the conversation and have good judgemental power.
3rd you did not achieve a level of trust that needed from you, sorry.
4th you did not ask nicely.

Question of me being the same guy as Bitlucy?
1. This does not make sense. The campaign manager is a liar? Yahoo even merited the post. Okay considering he did not read the post.
2. dkbit98 is confirming.
3. A confirmation here.
4. Another user confirmed somewhere.
5. Another one here.
6. He could ask the designer I mentioned in the OP.

It seems he does not want to accept anything at all.

I will not respond here again, it looks like you just want to get smug with me. Good luck with your ventures on the forum, make better decisions!!!!
Ta-ta!
Your good luck sounds go to hell to me but thank you.
However, right now it's not clear who is to get smug with who, not at least after the tag you left which sounds retaliatory. Getting suggestion or advice of making better decision from you really does not make much meaning for me considering the history you have to protect your employer in the past. Are you asking the card you played, I should have played similar card? Sorry I do not play dirty. I like to play real as much as humanly possible.

I hope Royse will help me stay anonymous.
Your secrets are safe with me as I sent PM earlier to assure you. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.
It was me who deleted the chat because that group was temporary to only have the group conversation between three of us. We conducted many recruiting and with all of them there were similar temporary groups which were deleted after successful or unsuccessful hire.

That's what I'd do if people started accusing me about my gig.
If you are privacy concerned then it's not easy for you to make everything public. I have given some reasons already. We make mistakes but the privacy is more important than the reputation I have. I hope you understand it.
sr. member
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Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.
I did not show anything. All the evidence was posted here by @AnotherAlt.

I think it's better to respond a bit more often here, even if it's just to say trolls like bislom (who's now on my Ignore list) are wrong.

It's Better not to respond to those trolls like this guy. LoyceV already put him on the ignoring list. You better follow LoyceV.
I know after this post, This troll will say I am also a friend of Royse777 or some of you.
But, I want to tell. I know Royse777 as a good campaign manager but never worked with Royse777 before.
I am still afraid because Royse777 is not my friend and I can get exposed by Royse anytime. I am just trying to tell the truth here.
I hope Royse will help me stay anonymous. Else, I have to quit this forum.
legendary
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Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.

I did not show anything. All the evidence was posted here by @AnotherAlt.
legendary
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It's dirty when you pretend to be a friend to benefit your business.
He never pretended to be a friend and you don't know what happened with him taking over some of your campaigns, but I guess I could also ask him to prove how he got this latest job  Cheesy
However, Royse I think you don't need to reply like this with counter attacks, it's much better to prove you are not owner with few telegram conversation screenshots.
One image speaks better than thousand words, and I have to say that you could handle this much better.

I think that JollyGood and Yahoo62278 are being a bit overzealous, especially Yahoo62278 who gave Royse a negative feedback just because he was not happy with answer he got from Royse.
Yahoo should read better what was written in this topic before, because I said that me and several of DT members read some of his private conversation, that is showing he is not the owner of Bitlucy, so no need to keep insisting so hard on that.
I have no idea why he keeps pushing so hard and it's not like his history of campaigns is perfect, or was it ok to promote Yobit and similar stuff Wink

yahoo62278    2022-07-03    Reference    User that got involved with a scam casino and is not looking to clear their name. Blames competitors for them losing business that are really only looking out for the forum users

Guys, we don't need manager wars in forum  Tongue
jr. member
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Royse the clown is still really believe his own lies? Notather only showed us now that he is an aky of royse or just a friend.

Royse told that he invested 3.2K from his own pocket. But wait, he did not know the guy well? He just send him a message and Royse decided to invest 3.2K to somebody with a website that he does not even know in real life? LOOOOOOOOL  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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I guess I can help a little bit.
@Royse777, I want to be anonymous in this forum. After this post, Only you, bitlucy owner, and another guy from this forum will know who am I. Please don't reveal me.

@yahoo62278 I was referred by a guy from this forum to Royse777. Bitlucy was looking for a Support Agent and I was looking for a job.
Since there is a question raised about Royse777 being the owner of Bitlucy or not, I can confirm that it doesn't look to me that he is the owner.
I was looking for a full conversation with Bitlucy owner and Royse777. But, I figured out either Royse777 or Bitlucy Owner Deleted the group and cleared the conversation. So I am unable to submit the full conversation. But, at that time, I took three screenshots to give to my current employer. That's all I have right now. After reading the conversation, You may decide something.


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One From Personal Chat With Royse

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Good, so this should mop all the skeptism about Royse not being the Bitlucy owner under the rug. Now can we all move on from this Shakespearean drama?
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What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.
At least ask some of the users who worked with the owner. Even some of them already told in public that it was not me. I don't understand how you missed it if you are so much involved in the case or al least you feel you are.

What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino
I wouldn't know how I can prove I'm not the owner of Bitlucy, so that's pretty much impossible for Royse777 too.

I guess I can help a little bit.
@Royse777, I want to be anonymous in this forum. After this post, Only you, bitlucy owner, and another guy from this forum will know who am I. Please don't reveal me.

@yahoo62278 I was referred by a guy from this forum to Royse777. Bitlucy was looking for a Support Agent and I was looking for a job.
Since there is a question raised about Royse777 being the owner of Bitlucy or not, I can confirm that it doesn't look to me that he is the owner.
I was looking for a full conversation with Bitlucy owner and Royse777. But, I figured out either Royse777 or Bitlucy Owner Deleted the group and cleared the conversation. So I am unable to submit the full conversation. But, at that time, I took three screenshots to give to my current employer. That's all I have right now. After reading the conversation, You may decide something.




One From Personal Chat With Royse


legendary
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What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino(which most of us do not believe you are), prove via conversations with this mystery person whom you are so good of friends with that you are innocent. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't want to prove that.
At least ask some of the users who worked with the owner. Even some of them already told in public that it was not me. I don't understand how you missed it if you are so much involved in the case or al least you feel you are.

Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.
Please don't. I am not asking for it to have your sympathy. Haven't you done your part yet?

Let's start with blockchain transactions. I could care less about any address you might have had money sent to or sent from. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the blockchain is public, not private just in case you weren't aware. Regardless I have never asked for an address I don't believe. I'm also not asking for your home address( another thing I do not care to know).
Don't lecture me blockchain. I know very well how it works. When I connect an address known to me which I don't want in public then I don't. The moment I tell an address is mine know to everyone that it's mine.
I will not respond here again, it looks like you just want to get smug with me. Good luck with your ventures on the forum, make better decisions!!!!
legendary
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What is being asked for is you to prove you are not the owner of the casino
I wouldn't know how I can prove I'm not the owner of Bitlucy, so that's pretty much impossible for Royse777 too.

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Most of us are trying to give you a chance to clear your name, but IMO you are letting anger get the best of you and not solving much of anything.
I concur. I think it's better to respond a bit more often here, even if it's just to say trolls like bislom (who's now on my Ignore list) are wrong.
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