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November 09, 2021, 12:35:25 PM
#23
They must be some regional rumors, because I did not find anything on the Internet that would confirm such a cheating. I also think that if something like this had happened in a match at such a high level, the cheating would have been detected and the match would have been annulled.
Anyway, it's good that the teams will be able to explain again who is better. Spicy rumors like this always increase views.  Wink

by now, they should have produced the evidence of using that kind of bat, photo or video that will confirm their suspicion. but if there's smoke, there's fire... or was he only a victim of malicious rumor?
with the rematch, before the game begins, they should fully inspect the players as well as their gadgets to avoid this kind of suspicion.

It's just so disappointing that there are suspicious matches these days because, to be honest, hardworking players deserve a fair match. This thing should be investigated but they should also provide concrete evidence to support their complaint. This has been happening not just in the said country but in most areas of the world but I'm hoping that this should come to an end.
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November 09, 2021, 03:37:09 AM
#22
Rumours are not new for internet and if someone believe that everything they see on the internet without the actual reference are stupid and belongs to 🐑 community. And there is nothing to talk about this because they will exist forever or until there are stupid people exist in this world. Tongue

These kinds of rumors aren't invented by stupid people, but by professionals. It is thanks to invented scandals that the viewership of various events increases. Generating and spreading rumors has become a very popular marketing tool. I think that's exactly what it is like in this situation.
People who believe them are the stupid and sometimes people who spread that rumours also stupid or just doing it for no reason. Maybe people lost their common sense that's why they became more easier to start believing anything they see even its nit really possible.
Correct , the creator of Rumors are not stupid because they intended those to happen instead those who Buy the Rumor and make it realistic are the stupid one as they are not digging deeper about the truth and just listen to what they here though it is tricking since creators are good at it and they may sounds like legit and worth a listen and in the end the truth will be sacrificed .
this same reason why i limit my listening , mostly just from those i trusted for long time and not the popular one who only seek believers but not tending to be worth it.
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November 09, 2021, 02:23:14 AM
#21
Rumours are not new for internet and if someone believe that everything they see on the internet without the actual reference are stupid and belongs to 🐑 community. And there is nothing to talk about this because they will exist forever or until there are stupid people exist in this world. Tongue

These kinds of rumors aren't invented by stupid people, but by professionals. It is thanks to invented scandals that the viewership of various events increases. Generating and spreading rumors has become a very popular marketing tool. I think that's exactly what it is like in this situation.
People who believe them are the stupid and sometimes people who spread that rumours also stupid or just doing it for no reason. Maybe people lost their common sense that's why they became more easier to start believing anything they see even its nit really possible.
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November 08, 2021, 05:38:37 PM
#20


They can obviously have a match again in the future but doing this would only show the Indian team supporters to be desperate and unwilling to accept their team loosing. A very important thing in sports is *team spirit*.

If they cannot prove the allegations and they resort to spreading lies and rumors, we can say that they have not accepted defeat and they are poor losers all these years, allegations should be backed up by pieces of evidence, people spreading lies and rumors can be charged with defamation.   

It happened in 2003 in a world cup and since this is a World Cup it cast doubts on the officiating of a big organization.
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November 08, 2021, 01:27:20 PM
#19
People still used to believe these 18 year old prank by Indian media  Grin The true fact was that Ponting was so good and was able to judge the Indian bowlers and obviously was able to unleash the maximum out of the innings. But apart from that Kookaburra bat which was used by Ponting regularly had a strip of carbon graphite which provided extra power while hitting the ball.

I've been a regular user of normal Kookaburra in the mid 2005s and obviously these bats were powerful and it was able to change the way we hit the ball. ICC banned the carbon backed bat in 2006 matches and the company behind the bat recreated bats without them later and supplied to the international players.

Indians were unwilling to accept the reality of Ponting gameplay in 2003 WC and started a blunt talk stating that his bat handle had spring lol.

Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?
I think you just need to reframe your post though. Spring bat was a nonsensical rumor spread by Indian media but the real fact was the usage of carbon graphite bat which provided extra power for the batsman while in contact with the ball. The same kind of graphite bat was used by former Sri lankan opener Jayasuriya as well! Moreover while I was representing my state from 2010s, I used a more expensive bat which costed $100-$150 which was even more powerful than the normal bats used at that time and hence I was able to score better.  Smiley

I think, I will believe more on this story of yours, a bat with a strip of carbon graphite, with properties that can offer additional strength to the bat.
People sometime like to spread rumour without actually checking the veracity of the gossip.
Up until it will become like a tale in the sports industry. And not fully learning the facts and further spreading the false information.
But in the case of boxing, there were few instances that were really found out as cheaters like Margarito using plaster of paris powder on the wraps.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1302130-boxings-4-most-infamous-cheaters-of-all-time
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November 08, 2021, 10:48:08 AM
#18
As you said these are all *Rumors* they are not something that we are sure about and therefore at the end of the day until and unless you do get an official statement about anyone or anything then you should not believe these rumors.

Plus is there any official news stating how The spring bat was used ? It's easy to blame anyone even tho I do support team India, I do not believe it's a good thing to discuss this and fuel these rumors.

They can obviously have a match again in the future but doing this would only show the Indian team supporters to be desperate and unwilling to accept their team loosing. A very important thing in sports is *team spirit*.
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November 08, 2021, 10:26:09 AM
#17
People still used to believe these 18 year old prank by Indian media  Grin The true fact was that Ponting was so good and was able to judge the Indian bowlers and obviously was able to unleash the maximum out of the innings. But apart from that Kookaburra bat which was used by Ponting regularly had a strip of carbon graphite which provided extra power while hitting the ball.

I've been a regular user of normal Kookaburra in the mid 2005s and obviously these bats were powerful and it was able to change the way we hit the ball. ICC banned the carbon backed bat in 2006 matches and the company behind the bat recreated bats without them later and supplied to the international players.

Indians were unwilling to accept the reality of Ponting gameplay in 2003 WC and started a blunt talk stating that his bat handle had spring lol.

Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?
I think you just need to reframe your post though. Spring bat was a nonsensical rumor spread by Indian media but the real fact was the usage of carbon graphite bat which provided extra power for the batsman while in contact with the ball. The same kind of graphite bat was used by former Sri lankan opener Jayasuriya as well! Moreover while I was representing my state from 2010s, I used a more expensive bat which costed $100-$150 which was even more powerful than the normal bats used at that time and hence I was able to score better.  Smiley

I don't know the technical details of cricket bats, but even if there was some cheating, I'm sure that on the level of international sport it wouldn't just end with rumor. I am sure the National Federation would react immediately and it would be a big scandal.
This type of rumor right now can only be taken as a joke.
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November 08, 2021, 09:08:49 AM
#16
People still used to believe these 18 year old prank by Indian media  Grin The true fact was that Ponting was so good and was able to judge the Indian bowlers and obviously was able to unleash the maximum out of the innings. But apart from that Kookaburra bat which was used by Ponting regularly had a strip of carbon graphite which provided extra power while hitting the ball.

I've been a regular user of normal Kookaburra in the mid 2005s and obviously these bats were powerful and it was able to change the way we hit the ball. ICC banned the carbon backed bat in 2006 matches and the company behind the bat recreated bats without them later and supplied to the international players.

Indians were unwilling to accept the reality of Ponting gameplay in 2003 WC and started a blunt talk stating that his bat handle had spring lol.

Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?
I think you just need to reframe your post though. Spring bat was a nonsensical rumor spread by Indian media but the real fact was the usage of carbon graphite bat which provided extra power for the batsman while in contact with the ball. The same kind of graphite bat was used by former Sri lankan opener Jayasuriya as well! Moreover while I was representing my state from 2010s, I used a more expensive bat which costed $100-$150 which was even more powerful than the normal bats used at that time and hence I was able to score better.  Smiley
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November 08, 2021, 08:30:14 AM
#15
If you are wondering like me "wtf is a spring bat", check this video out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJb7CHNHKSk



I don't know much about this sport but as I understood, that flexible handle gives the player an enormous advantage over the other players. Is that right?

At least the mistake will be fixed after 18 years. Better than nothing.

I've seen a lot of experiment like this on youtube, I don't remember the channel though. The spring bat has a sensor inside that detects even a smallest impact on it, then that will trigger the spring to hit back the force that made impact. So batters don't need to strongly hit the ball, they just need to swing the bat right at the ball and the spring bat will do the rest. But of course swinging big and hitting the ball at the right spot means the ball will be surely a overkill home run.
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November 08, 2021, 08:22:30 AM
#14
Its always like that , I know the internet does not contain stuff that are real , it also  have contains stuff that are not true which are just rumor. All we need to do is to ignor some certain things like this.
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November 08, 2021, 08:01:07 AM
#13
Rumours are not new for internet and if someone believe that everything they see on the internet without the actual reference are stupid and belongs to 🐑 community. And there is nothing to talk about this because they will exist forever or until there are stupid people exist in this world. Tongue

These kinds of rumors aren't invented by stupid people, but by professionals. It is thanks to invented scandals that the viewership of various events increases. Generating and spreading rumors has become a very popular marketing tool. I think that's exactly what it is like in this situation.
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November 08, 2021, 07:57:24 AM
#12
Rumours are not new for internet and if someone believe that everything they see on the internet without the actual reference are stupid and belongs to 🐑 community. And there is nothing to talk about this because they will exist forever or until there are stupid people exist in this world. Tongue
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November 08, 2021, 07:48:21 AM
#11
This rumor should be corrected it puts the officiating at that time in a bad light and they are accusing the team of cheating which is not right if they cannot prove it, if they think they have cheated then they should have filed a protest back then and not coming up with a meme that disrespects the team back them, cheating is serious and should be addressed and not wait this long.
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November 08, 2021, 03:15:33 AM
#10
If you are wondering like me "wtf is a spring bat", check this video out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJb7CHNHKSk



I don't know much about this sport but as I understood, that flexible handle gives the player an enormous advantage over the other players. Is that right?

At least the mistake will be fixed after 18 years. Better than nothing.
Wow means this really happening on sports ? anyway the rumor happens back in 2003 when the gaming event does not have high lens cameras with clear visions
but what about in our days now that there are dozens of cameras installed in every corner aside from the fans that has their High Tech cameras and gadgets that
keep filming the game , i believe that this kind of Bat(Spring to be specific) is noticeable and will never hide from the vision of thousands or millions of watchers.

But I am disappointing seeing this kind of cheating from one of the most popular sports .
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November 08, 2021, 03:15:15 AM
#9
They must be some regional rumors, because I did not find anything on the Internet that would confirm such a cheating. I also think that if something like this had happened in a match at such a high level, the cheating would have been detected and the match would have been annulled.
Anyway, it's good that the teams will be able to explain again who is better. Spicy rumors like this always increase views.  Wink

by now, they should have produced the evidence of using that kind of bat, photo or video that will confirm their suspicion. but if there's smoke, there's fire... or was he only a victim of malicious rumour?
with the rematch, before the game begins, they should fully inspect the players as well as their gadgets to avoid this kind of suspicion.

This is to ignite the flame between the two competing teams and to make the fans curious, but in some way, cast doubts on the fairness of the officials back then, this should've been corrected before the start of the game, it's not good that the game starts with suspicious of cheating on one's team and doubts in the integrity of the officials and if there was cheating back then, then the officials should come out with an official statement that they will do better and they will not let the same incident from happening.
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November 08, 2021, 02:54:41 AM
#8
Very soon the finals is going to be a rematch. In any other sports similar incidents have happened.
This is also common in other sports, even football is among, the match you thought to have been won will later be cancelled. I have not bet on this kind of match before, I do not know what rules do gambling sites have about this, but I believe the game is lost already as a result of some people that would have won and have withdrawn their profit. Shits like this do hapoen in sport very well.

Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?
Yes, just like you jump on spring and it pulls you up automatically, it will increase the speed of anything in contact with the bath and reduces time used to cover specific distance which will be a great disadvantage for the opponent and the opportunity to win.
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November 08, 2021, 02:46:16 AM
#7
Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?

Well in boxing there are rumours that Fury uses a loaded gloves against Wilder in the second fight. But this was never proven to be true. There is also one case, Antonio Margarito who was found to be using plaster of Paris to hardened his gloves, thus generating more damage to his opponent.
I think it should have been considered beforehand? Like a meeting of sorts by the committee, if it was allowed then ig there were some circumstances that called for it but if it wasn't, then shouldn't there be an official complaint of sorts about the legitimacy of the match and the result should have been nulled or something. Ig the rules were still flexible or just unsure? idk it isn't up to me to answer that since I wasn't there really. Though seeing as there isn't any announcement really, I guess it was considered legit but might just have barely dodged the rules tbh.
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November 07, 2021, 04:42:25 PM
#6
Is this considered cheating though? using spring bat to take advantage, thus scoring more than he should?

Well in boxing there are rumours that Fury uses a loaded gloves against Wilder in the second fight. But this was never proven to be true. There is also one case, Antonio Margarito who was found to be using plaster of Paris to hardened his gloves, thus generating more damage to his opponent.
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November 07, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
#5
Because I don't really know what made this case reappear and become a topic. I don't know the details yet, but does the suspicion come from the opponent? or indeed the investigative team at that time expressed their suspicions. The inspection should have been carried out from the start and gone through a layered stage. If this alone passes, it means a lot will be investigated. For example, investigators or the examining team were successfully tricked. So how is this case brought back to life after being buried for so long?
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November 07, 2021, 04:25:11 PM
#4
They must be some regional rumors, because I did not find anything on the Internet that would confirm such a cheating. I also think that if something like this had happened in a match at such a high level, the cheating would have been detected and the match would have been annulled.
Anyway, it's good that the teams will be able to explain again who is better. Spicy rumors like this always increase views.  Wink

by now, they should have produced the evidence of using that kind of bat, photo or video that will confirm their suspicion. but if there's smoke, there's fire... or was he only a victim of malicious rumour?
with the rematch, before the game begins, they should fully inspect the players as well as their gadgets to avoid this kind of suspicion.
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