Topic: Russia plan to use untested vaccine against the coronavirus - page 2. (Read 518 times)
People die of all kinds of things. Since the pandemic of fear of a weak and unimportant virus called Covid is what the lockdowns are all about, what are the lockdowns producing? Oh yes. Destruction of nations and economies and people. Lockdown pandemic.
lockdown not the same as pandemic
pandemic is about the negative health thing hurting people around the world
the virus is the 'negative health thing'
the lockdown is the action to surpress the negative health thing FROM OVERRUNNING hospitals
if there was no risk of a hospital overrun. there would be no lockdown
but it would still be classed as a pandemic if people around the world were getting sick enough to affect their life even if they didnt get sick enough to need hospital
if no one was getting sick. then there would be no pandemic and nothing to need immunisation against
pandemic is about the negative health thing hurting people around the world
the virus is the 'negative health thing'
the lockdown is the action to surpress the negative health thing FROM OVERRUNNING hospitals
if there was no risk of a hospital overrun. there would be no lockdown
but it would still be classed as a pandemic if people around the world were getting sick enough to affect their life even if they didnt get sick enough to need hospital
if no one was getting sick. then there would be no pandemic and nothing to need immunisation against
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
If you are a reasonably healthy person, you have way more potential of dying in a car accident than of Covid.
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You have a higher chance of being killed in a car accident then dying of lung cancer / liver failure. Does that mean we shouldn't treat people who are dying of these two different causes of death/illness?
You have a higher chance of dying from one thing then of many other things. I get the reasonably healthy part, but we don't just disregard death because the person is unhealthy.
But the problem is that people aren't understanding that achieving herd immunity without a vaccine is going to cause a LOT of NEEDLESS DEATH and ILLNESS.
As I said in another thread, if you want to achieve herd immunity in a state like NY you need another 8M or so people to get COVID. That means tons and tons of people in hospitals and tens of thousands of more at risk people are going to die.
We should absolutely do what we can about anything. The danger isn't a virus. The danger is the pandemic that is shutting everything down. The pandemic isn't based on a virus. It's based on fear. You can't cure fear with a vaccine. The vaccine won't be even 10% effective. Shut down the pandemic. That should be the new pandemic... shutting down the pandemic.
jetcash / badecker mindset
'we think that only 10% of people hit by a car die from it. so we want everyone to walk into the road and get hit' .. 'we want people to avoid learning to spot the signs of an oncoming car. we want people to not learn about the dangers of cars from other safer methods. we want people to get run over'
those idiotic thoughts sounds like jetcash/badecker are the eugenics guys that want to sell pharma chemical..
the US/UK government are not selling medication to citizens. because.. there is no medication people can take as a daily supplement
the US/UK government are not telling people to get sick and risk death via eugenics plans
yet idiots like jetcash/badecker are pasting in script from their cultish websites that have all the hallmarks of the things they pretend they aint
'we think that only 10% of people hit by a car die from it. so we want everyone to walk into the road and get hit' .. 'we want people to avoid learning to spot the signs of an oncoming car. we want people to not learn about the dangers of cars from other safer methods. we want people to get run over'
those idiotic thoughts sounds like jetcash/badecker are the eugenics guys that want to sell pharma chemical..
the US/UK government are not selling medication to citizens. because.. there is no medication people can take as a daily supplement
the US/UK government are not telling people to get sick and risk death via eugenics plans
yet idiots like jetcash/badecker are pasting in script from their cultish websites that have all the hallmarks of the things they pretend they aint
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
If you are a reasonably healthy person, you have way more potential of dying in a car accident than of Covid.
.....
You have a higher chance of being killed in a car accident then dying of lung cancer / liver failure. Does that mean we shouldn't treat people who are dying of these two different causes of death/illness?
You have a higher chance of dying from one thing then of many other things. I get the reasonably healthy part, but we don't just disregard death because the person is unhealthy.
But the problem is that people aren't understanding that achieving herd immunity without a vaccine is going to cause a LOT of NEEDLESS DEATH and ILLNESS.
As I said in another thread, if you want to achieve herd immunity in a state like NY you need another 8M or so people to get COVID. That means tons and tons of people in hospitals and tens of thousands of more at risk people are going to die.
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
If you are a reasonably healthy person, you have way more potential of dying in a car accident than of Covid.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you.
So far nobody has been able to provide details of a healthy person who has died from the virus. I believe there have been Covid deaths from people that have received regular 'flu vaccinations, and who take Tylenol.
I haven't heard of a healthy person who got the virus.
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
+1 to that.
Not sure why there is so much debate regarding vaccines and their usage, even on the most basic levels. People get vaccines because obtaining immunity in a way that isn;t going to kill them.
If obtaining immunity was as easy as getting everyone sick and there would be no downsides, then we wouldn't have needed immunity because the disease / sickness in question isn't lethal enough to people.
A vaccine is better then achieving herd immunity through 70-80% of the population getting COVID.
I thought they had given up on the polio vaccine because it created more cases than it cured.
Vaccines are the pipe dream. They kill and maim people just to enrich the pharma companies. Anyone who injects poison and disease into a healthy kid under the age of 5 should be locked up. Kids need to be exposed to millions of viruses and germs to build strong immune systems. We've evolved to handle it, so don't screw it up to give Bill Gates a few more billions.
How can a baby without an immune system benefit from having disease injected into it?
How can a baby without an immune system benefit from having disease injected into it?
Somehow I believe kids are to be expose to bacterias for immune system to know how to protect the body but there are just vaccines that works and very needed for a person like the polio vaccine so a person won't end up with disabilities. We can't just put our trust to the quack doctors we use to believe. There are no shamans in new generations and they are just not familiar with what the shamans know centuries ago.
Vaccines are the pipe dream. They kill and maim people just to enrich the pharma companies. Anyone who injects poison and disease into a healthy kid under the age of 5 should be locked up. Kids need to be exposed to millions of viruses and germs to build strong immune systems. We've evolved to handle it, so don't screw it up to give Bill Gates a few more billions.
How can a baby without an immune system benefit from having disease injected into it?
How can a baby without an immune system benefit from having disease injected into it?
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
+1 to that. There's no way we can reach herd immunity without killing a lot of people who don't need to die. What we need to do is follow proper safety protocols and wait for a vaccine to work.
Herd immunity is a pipe dream. It won't work and it'll kill many more people. We'd literally have to have another 12M or so cases, just in NY, to achieve herd immunity.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you.
So far nobody has been able to provide details of a healthy person who has died from the virus. I believe there have been Covid deaths from people that have received regular 'flu vaccinations, and who take Tylenol.
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
Because real virus has a potency to kill you. The power of good vaccine is not sufficient for that. The problem is to develop such vaccine that would train body against specific virus and at the same time wouldn’t threaten body itself.
It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
So why not wait until you are infected with the real virus, and not some synthetic variant. That will give you better protection, and avoid the side effects.
I don't understand why people vaccinate themselves when they are infected.
Being infected no one vaccinate himself. Doctors refuse to do that knowing that you are ill. Vaccination works only for those whose bodies are not infected. It's training your immune cells to recognize viruses and kill them.
I don't understand why people vaccinate themselves when they are infected. Your body is trying to fight the infection, the last thing you want to do is to give it more work to do. It really shows how much the money Pharmers have mis-educated the sheeple over vaccines.
The nly good news about the Russian vaccine is that it is almost certain to be useless, and will have side effects. This may accelerate the discrediting of vaccines, and then maybe we can escape from the mania about them, and save the health industry billions.
The nly good news about the Russian vaccine is that it is almost certain to be useless, and will have side effects. This may accelerate the discrediting of vaccines, and then maybe we can escape from the mania about them, and save the health industry billions.
Russia trying super hard to be a world leader with their shitty government and healthcare system. I wouldn't touch that vaccine with a 10 foot pole.
To the health staff they did give the vaccine too, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
Afaik, they tested their vaccine on very less numbers like in two digits only for every phase and also the people who got tested are people from army that is why its bit worrying that how it is going to be effective with a common man who is not muscular or stronger as the army persons. To the health staff they did give the vaccine too, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
Russia trying super hard to be a world leader with their shitty government and healthcare system. I wouldn't touch that vaccine with a 10 foot pole.
To the health staff they did give the vaccine too, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
To the health staff they did give the vaccine too, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
I am in doubt if the vaccine will be available in huge quantities for the hole population. Probably they will start with the high risk groups and then work their way down. In the end it's just another form of human trials I guess. For me I would not let them inject me with any vaccine.
Russia trying super hard to be a world leader with their shitty government and healthcare system. I wouldn't touch that vaccine with a 10 foot pole.
To the health staff they did give the vaccine to, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
To the health staff they did give the vaccine to, it was only a small number I read. Not even remotely close to a clinical trial.
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