Topic: Russia/ Syria (Read 1408 times)
The regime forces are making good progress in Aleppo with Russian support. They are about to take the city of Shaykh Ahmed (Eastern Aleppo) and lift the siege of the Kuweiris Air Base.
What is the Russian objective in Syria? What's the play?
PS: To answer the question of "what's the play", ultimately, Russia is playing a role of that overlooked kid at school, who to everyone's surprise stands up to the school bully, when everyone thinks that said bully has absolutely free reigns. Russia is saying that enough is enough.
As for USA, they (and I mean here the USA Inc. CEOs) should learn that the world is not black and white and that you can't live by the rule of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". USA applied this rule supporting Taliban in Afghanistan, then Al Quaeda in Iraq, and now ISIS in Syria. The logic being: Assad won't do USA's bidding, so he has to go? Who is the enemy of this largely secular Syrian leader? Radical militant Islamic groups. Great, let's leave them weapons and support, while "fighting" them by the least effective way possible, just for show. Oh, and here comes Russia wanting to fight ISIS for real. We can't have any of that, can we? Those radical Islamists still didn't do to Assad in Syria what they did to Gaddafi in Libya...
Well said.
There's only a few people here that make much sense on socio political matters - and you are one of them IMHO
Russia saved Assad's regime over Syria. They are probably gonna hit ISIS even harder. And I also expect them to support Kurd rebels but it might be too early.
Kurds might have joined them, but the Turkish bombers are attacking them left, right and the center. The Turkish bombings have forced the Kurds to abandon their campaign against the ISIS. They haven't advanced against the Jihadis for almost one month now. They were about to over-run the ISIS capital of Raqqa a few weeks ago, but the Turks made sure that it will never happen.
Russia saved Assad's regime over Syria. They are probably gonna hit ISIS even harder. And I also expect them to support Kurd rebels but it might be too early.
French Jews-owned medias keep saying that Russia has an unique base and that it is in Syria. They're liars !
The naval facility in Tartus is not even a full fledged military base. It is just a repair station. Also, it's importance has been lost after Russia built its own base in the island of Cyprus.
I think that since USA are unable to defeat Islamic State, Russia wants to show the world who is the best, which is indeed Russia. Cold War is still going on, but on a less intensive way as it was before !
If the Americans really want to defeat the Islamic State, then it will be able to do that in a matter of few months. But they are under strict orders from Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia to not do that.
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. French Jews-owned medias keep saying that Russia has an unique base and that it is in Syria. They're liars !
The naval facility in Tartus is not even a full fledged military base. It is just a repair station. Also, it's importance has been lost after Russia built its own base in the island of Cyprus.
I think that since USA are unable to defeat Islamic State, Russia wants to show the world who is the best, which is indeed Russia. Cold War is still going on, but on a less intensive way as it was before !
If the Americans really want to defeat the Islamic State, then it will be able to do that in a matter of few months. But they are under strict orders from Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia to not do that.
Let's look on History of this conflict! 2011 USA stop exporting Gas from Qatar. Qatar decide to build gas pipe line to EU. This gas pipe line suppose to go throw Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and ...guess who?...Syria! Just after that Asad says that he would not support of building this line. And show began! Qatar and Saudi Arabia started to help with money and other to Syrian opposite forces. Thats why Saudi Arabia so concerned about Syria. And Russia understand that if Saudi Arabia and Qatar will build the line Russia will lose EU market. For Russia it will equally death. So bases and other things as fight with ISis is bullshit! Russia struggle for EU markets, and they own ability to live
It's the only country where they have a base.
Wrong. There are bases in countries such as Cyprus, Abkhazia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia.etc.
Russia want to show her strongness by killing IS soldiers and showing the world that USA are unperformant.
Wrong. Russia doesn't want to showoff anything. They just want to nip the ISIS in the bud, and keep the trouble away from Russia.
Russia also wants to help Bachar al-Assad to stay president because he was legally elected by a big majority of citizens.
Yes. Russia is interested in having secular governments in the middle-east, unlike the Americans who want to topple them. [/list]
French Jews-owned medias keep saying that Russia has an unique base and that it is in Syria. They're liars !
I think that since USA are unable to defeat Islamic State, Russia wants to show the world who is the best, which is indeed Russia. Cold War is still going on, but on a less intensive way as it was before !
Yes, you're right, USA don't like Russia's allies and countries that don't sell us petrol. But if ultra-repressive islamic countries sell them petrol, they agree to help tem !
It's the only country where they have a base.
Wrong. There are bases in countries such as Cyprus, Abkhazia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Armenia.etc.
Russia want to show her strongness by killing IS soldiers and showing the world that USA are unperformant.
Wrong. Russia doesn't want to showoff anything. They just want to nip the ISIS in the bud, and keep the trouble away from Russia.
Russia also wants to help Bachar al-Assad to stay president because he was legally elected by a big majority of citizens.
Yes. Russia is interested in having secular governments in the middle-east, unlike the Americans who want to topple them. [/list]
Russia supports Syria for a lot of reasons :
There is certainely more reasons but these are the mains.
- It's the only country where they have a base.
- Russia want to show her strongness by killing IS soldiers and showing the world that USA are unperformant.
- Russia also wants to help Bachar al-Assad to stay president because he was legally elected by a big majority of citizens.
There is certainely more reasons but these are the mains.
Euronews: Russian air strike hit training camp of Syrian rebel group that was trained by the CIA (Group's commander)
Good! Now they know how it feels! The United States has to fly across the country for many years now because the country does not want to support the military or military aircraft flying over their country. Putin You will only have to fly around them like everyone else does
If Ukraine closes its airspace to Russian aircraft, then nothing will happen. The Russians will slightly change their routes, and continue as usual. But imagine what will happen if Russia closes its airspace to aircraft from Ukraine. Ukrainian flights to Japan and other East Asian destinations will become extremely expensive and time consuming.
Good! Now they know how it feels! The United States has to fly across the country for many years now because the country does not want to support the military or military aircraft flying over their country. Putin You will only have to fly around them like everyone else does
You can look on countries where Russia helps last 20 years. Only economic dislocation and societal meltdown nothing else.
Take a look at the countries which were "helped" by the United States, such as Moldova and Ukraine. They are in an even worse state. And for your information, these two countries are now the poorest nations in the European continent. And Venezuela and Syria are not the only countries in the world which received Russian funds.
Best way to compare it take one Nation and big period of time because state development it is not 1-2 days deal! To make pure experiment! So as the best example is Korea! Look at Korea south and north one nation, two ways of political systems. And what is as result!? About Ukraine it's too early to judge, and Moldova compare it with Transnistria?!
You can look on countries where Russia helps last 20 years. Only economic dislocation and societal meltdown nothing else.
Take a look at the countries which were "helped" by the United States, such as Moldova and Ukraine. They are in an even worse state. And for your information, these two countries are now the poorest nations in the European continent. And Venezuela and Syria are not the only countries in the world which received Russian funds.
Finally I think it's a very good idea to let the russians and their allies have fun in the middle east. I am sure that they will enjoy their stay...
I don't see any need or reasons or gain for the Empire to be made in this place, all data (on the conduct of war) accumulated during the last few years still need a lot of research. I don't think that any "training" there is relevant or will bring any thing useful for the future.
Furthermore it will permit to see who are the members of the axis of evil in full light (supporting the neo stalinist there, is a good litmus test).
Moreover it will create lot of enemies for those taking part in operation saving assad, and will ultimately improve the relation of the usa with all the people in the middle east (once they see the brutal, inhumans destruction that will be unleashed there).
And ultimately it will permit to learn everything about the russians and their allies, who they really are.
see you on youtube...
p.s. sorry for those that will go there. I will not miss you.
I don't see any need or reasons or gain for the Empire to be made in this place, all data (on the conduct of war) accumulated during the last few years still need a lot of research. I don't think that any "training" there is relevant or will bring any thing useful for the future.
Furthermore it will permit to see who are the members of the axis of evil in full light (supporting the neo stalinist there, is a good litmus test).
Moreover it will create lot of enemies for those taking part in operation saving assad, and will ultimately improve the relation of the usa with all the people in the middle east (once they see the brutal, inhumans destruction that will be unleashed there).
And ultimately it will permit to learn everything about the russians and their allies, who they really are.
see you on youtube...
p.s. sorry for those that will go there. I will not miss you.
Russia will bring peace to middle east region messed up by USA. I'm happy Russian troops are finally there taking things under control.
You can look on countries where Russia helps last 20 years. Only economic dislocation and societal meltdown nothing else.
100% true ... but all of these Russian trolls like to live under so called "Dictator threat" ... all of these countries live under poor nationalisme .... save what remains in Russia ... langage speak only there and Vodka ...
Poutine know Assad will be out soon ... and to be sure that they will not loose the place in Middle East ... they send troop ... more and more ... Assad now is the puppet of Poutine ... nothing all.
If Vkontakt message and photo ... when Poutine will admit that Russia send troop there ? Never ... first he lie as ever ... like in Ukraina / Crimea ...
Crimea = We have no army there ... only little green men
Ukraina = We do not help donbass terrorists... only ship some updated weapons ...
Syria = We have no plane ... hoo yes we sell weapons to Assaad and now we will help him ...
Russia is like all country ... they lie for geo-political rulez ... if you think they care about people ... long time that Poutine had signed law for corruption in Russia LoL
If Vkontakt message and photo ... when Poutine will admit that Russia send troop there ? Never ... first he lie as ever ... like in Ukraina / Crimea ...
Crimea = We have no army there ... only little green men
Ukraina = We do not help donbass terrorists... only ship some updated weapons ...
Syria = We have no plane ... hoo yes we sell weapons to Assaad and now we will help him ...
Russia is like all country ... they lie for geo-political rulez ... if you think they care about people ... long time that Poutine had signed law for corruption in Russia LoL
Russia will bring peace to middle east region messed up by USA. I'm happy Russian troops are finally there taking things under control.
You can look on countries where Russia helps last 20 years. Only economic dislocation and societal meltdown nothing else.
Russia will bring peace to middle east region messed up by USA. I'm happy Russian troops are finally there taking things under control.
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