Topic: Russia/ Syria - page 2. (Read 1407 times)

In 2009 it also was $60 per barrel but here in Russia we didn't feel that because our government take loans from western Banks, and cover all loses and then when oil rise up they give them back. Now they also could do it but the problem is that sanctions. No one give Russia loans. About demographic problem (+6%) it is number from Jan- March when there was hard battles in Ukraine.


     

They are not related to each other, but this countries become a battlefield of political struggle between Russia and western countries   

schools, theater, train stations... one sure thing you aren't part of the nemo team... you are too... uninformed.

Ican I don't get how syria and ukraine are related, I don't see how one will affect the others... the only difference will be a longer travel time for the body bags... do the plans have a/c? the problem is that the rogue dude has some fixation in his mind... like plant are crimes... whoooo.

furthermore, the partition of russia will be fun... to risk all of this for syria... lol only a bad, poor, uneducated, arrogant and lame trader would take such risks... low gain, high risk... congrats.

The economic problems are solely due to the fact that the oil price is declining (as a result of tactics being employed by Saudi Arabia). Earlier, when the oil price was going at $105 a barrel, the Russian government used to receive $78 as taxes for every barrel of oil. And now the oil price has come down to $48, and this figure has been reduced to $21 per barrel.

And regarding the death rate, for the January-July period, it has increased to 1,144,039. For the same period in 2014, the number of deaths was 1,124,661. This represents an increase of 1.72%.

Im here in Russia so I can say that since "war" with Ukraine started we have a lot's of problems. As economic problems (sanctions) as demographic (death rate + 6%). So yes we have already fill body bags enough and now our government need to find the way to get rid of sanctions with out giving out Crimea. And Syria is the best way to rich this aim. Putin will use Syria as collateral damage.

Even the superpower United States is helpless against the Mexican drug smugglers in the Southern border. So Russia doesn't have to worry too much. And also, in the past 6 centuries or so, very few people have managed to breach the Russian border. The very few who managed to successfully do that, failed to progress much further.

like character of the country that feels great in general
have the idea of ​​a superpower, Russia certainly hope to
intervene in the Syrian domestic political and economic
benefit in the midst of conflict

russia doesn t have the finance to secure it's giant border... anyway if it's the stroke that break the anti-plant of the kremlin, enjoy the show it will be fun to watch on utube.

Just like the United States filling their thousands of empty body bags in Iraq and Afghanistan? A ground offensive against the ISIS will be a costly affair, in terms of both manpower, and finances. If the Russians have the balls to wage a ground operation against the ISIS, then I am all in support for them. The NATO cowards are shitting in their pants when they think about the ISIS.

Nemo, please...

1. in 2-3 years russia is hosting the sucker game...
2. did you see Kobane?
3. russia and the ukraine

if you add 1+2+3 do you think it's the best time to engage in a war which will kill a lot of russians people in a foreign land for the benefit of a foreign leader? do you call that leadership on the part of the kremlin? I call that weakness.

then admitting that after a monstreous bloodbath, the leveling of syria, will it improve anything for russia? or ask otherwise would it weaken the Empire? no it wouldn't change a damn thing...

and then let's say that for fun the empire start to deliver some funny weapons to those that the people of the north will want to rule over, do you think the services will accept an afghanistan 2.0... remember the empire has spent a lot, for which results? do you see irak? okay...

So you think that it's the best thing for young russian men to go die there? frankly, I don't understand...

And to be blunt I think that it's the kgb mindset, that is here at fault... if the bosphoreus is locked, nuke it and make a bigger passage...

so frankly what is to gain? yes the empire is like the locusts, if there is no "gain" there is no reason to risk anything...

and finnally russia lost all credibility in my eyes when it support to build nuke plant in a country as prone to earthquake as iran... I mean if russia had gmos they would spread it everywhere...

a little rogue trader, nothing else to see. even trump has more standing. did I say trump... let's see how the checker player will play once the season reopen... enjoy the last few day of the federation, it was shorter than it's pervious itineration...

btw I dreamed of russia, of beyond the urals, of a mystical place without the overlord of the kremlin... I dreamed.

PS: To answer the question of "what's the play", ultimately, Russia is playing a role of that overlooked kid at school, who to everyone's surprise stands up to the school bully, when everyone thinks that said bully has absolutely free reigns. Russia is saying that enough is enough.

As for USA, they (and I mean here the USA Inc. CEOs) should learn that the world is not black and white and that you can't live by the rule of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". USA applied this rule supporting Taliban in Afghanistan, then Al Quaeda in Iraq, and now ISIS in Syria. The logic being: Assad won't do USA's bidding, so he has to go? Who is the enemy of this largely secular Syrian leader? Radical militant Islamic groups. Great, let's leave them weapons and support, while "fighting" them by the least effective way possible, just for show. Oh, and here comes Russia wanting to fight ISIS for real. We can't have any of that, can we? Those radical Islamists still didn't do to Assad in Syria what they did to Gaddafi in Libya...

Maybe, empty body bags to fill?

In the Western style of "democracy", anything that does not match a pre-determined by US outcome, must have been rigged.


Don't put the cart before the horse!  Russia, and Soviet Union before that, have its only remote military base in Syria. The American presence in Syria in the form of their support for ISIS and attempts to dislodge the legitimate government of the country just complicate things. What's the America's play, hm? Hint: The fate Syria suffers is the same one as what was dealt by the USA's Nudelman and Biden to Ukraine.

If you are genuinely interested in what is going on in that complicated part of the world, I want to recommend the following two things:

First listen to the interview with Assad. Listen to the other side of the story, so to speak, the side that has been so thoroughly muted in the West:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/whats-really-going-on-in-syria-from-the-horses-mouth-syrian-president-bashar-assad-exclusive-interview-to-the-russian-media/

And then read an extensive analysis of the political interactions in the region:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/is-erdogan-together-with-muslim-brotherhood-trying-to-recreate-the-turkish-empire/

who told you the syrian regime doesn't have popular support?

russia got assad to offer a cease fire so that a general election could be held across the entire country with international observers allowed in. the western backed "moderate" opposition groups (which barely exist anymore, there's just isis and al qaeda) responded with a boycott and the jewish media pretended assad rigged the election.

What is the Russian objective in Syria?  It seems like their presence there just complicated things in the region dramatically and it is hard to tell what their real intentions are.  Assad doesn't have popular support and to support Assad is to commit to an endless civil war.  Is that their objective?  Are they waiting for Assad to fall so they can be the predominant power on the ground and assign a new ruler that is friendly?  What's the play?