Topic: Russian Crypto Exchange Moves Money for Gaza Groups (Read 718 times)

So let's see, bitcoin.com, being owned by Roger Ver, self proclaimed libertarian who renounced his U.S. citizenship to be able to live more "freely"...  Hosts a hit-piece on Russia and the only organization in Palestine resisting against the Zionist occupation. Oh how the tables have turned. This is plain state-propaganda. Hamas being labeled as a terror org just makes way for Israel to keep committing genocide. Literally the Palestinians in Gaza have no other way to resist. Yes, Hamas being fond of a theocracy isn't the ideal organization to organize an armed resistance group through their paramilitaries but what can we do. They're the de facto government in Gaza, and last time the west afforded pestilential the right to have elections they were elected in a majority vote. Probably elections haven't been held since in fear of the more west-aligned PLO losing also the west bank.

Bitcoin being used for financial transactions isn't news though. Money needs to get in Gaza as well in spite of Israel's terror choke hold on these people. Money finds a way one way or the other. These people need to live. So money getting in a 40 by 10 km strip of land is just used for terror purposes? If these people were afforded equal rights by their occupying force, there wouldn't ever be a need for a Hamas or so called "money laundering". Just something to think about, but much of the western world needs to start thinking about blaming the aggressor first.

Putin's Russia orchestrated the Crocus City Hall tragedy, planning to blame it on the Ukrainians and ensure that the US Congress would no longer provide aid to Ukraine. But then in Russia they made a fatal mistake: the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case for complicity in terrorism based on this fact against US congressmen and this caused the opposite effect. Trump and House Chairman Johnson quickly changed their rhetoric because of this, and on April 20, the House of Representatives voted for about $60 billion in aid to Ukraine, which Johnson had deliberately not brought to a vote since October last year.
Tomorrow, April 23, the Senate must vote on this bill, and Biden has already indicated that he will quickly sign it. NATO, in turn, also stated that they are ready to send weapons to Ukraine within a few days, which are already in European warehouses. Putin, who invested a colossal amount of money into the “congress” project, was ultimately defeated.

Recently, when Russia’s advantage in the air was one in thirty, and in shells one in ten, and even despite the fact that aviation was intensively dropping guided bombs weighing from 500 to 1,500 kilograms on the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces simply could not resist with anything , and also with a significant superiority in manpower, the invaders slowly advanced through the ruins of the captured settlements of Ukraine. The situation should change in the near future, especially when the Ukrainian Armed Forces will have F-16s to shoot down bombers before dropping bombs. So the arrogance and imperial stupidity of Russia can play as a turning point in this war.

In addition, the US Congress also voted to confiscate the assets of the terrorist country Russia and its oligarchs collaborating with the Putin regime, and use them to help Ukraine's defense and reconstruction after the war. And although this amount is small, about 5 billion dollars, it is a precedent and a demonstrative step for Europe, where over 300 billion of Russian assets have been seized.

How do you suggest that happens? And how will the agency or framework catch those transactions when they are completely private and unknown? I know that if a transaction is done through a wallet that is linked with a KYCed account or something or a wallet that is from an exchange or other platform then it is easily traceable, but if a transaction is done from a completely unknown Bitcoin to a completely unknown Bitcoin address, there is no way for that intelligence or framework to link it to any group or anything.

It is understandable if they keep watching certain wallets that receive large transactions to see if the funds are then sent to a centralized exchange that is linked to a person as they require KYC for you to use P2P services, but I wonder what they would do if the transactions are done through different wallets and in smaller quantity, they won't be able to keep an eye on hundreds or thousands of Bitcoin wallets.

Russia has been launching missile and drone strikes across Ukraine for three years. Russian propagandists claim that they are being carried out on military targets. But it is mainly residential buildings, educational institutions, hospitals and other civil infrastructure that are being destroyed. Or maybe I’ll remind you how last winter Russia deliberately attacked Ukraine’s energy infrastructure in order to “freeze” the population and break the will to resist? Are these not terrorist attacks?
Ukraine only recently began striking military targets in Russia and oil refineries when it was able to establish its own production of drones. And even then, their power cannot be compared with the missiles that Russia constantly launches at Ukraine.

 Do you think that a real war is when missiles fly only in one direction, towards Ukraine?
And if for every hundred missiles one response arrives, is that already terrorism? More than 2,000 Russian missiles and more than 9,200 drones have been shot down over Ukrainian territory alone. How often do explosions occur in Russian cities? I think it will be fair if the Ukrainian Armed Forces try to make parity in this matter. Otherwise, Russians do not feel at all that their country has been fighting against a neighboring state for three years.

Let's then return to the events of World War II, when the USSR was attacked by Germany. Can the actions of the USSR be considered terrorism when they attacked German territory and reached Berlin, destroying populated areas on German territory and killing many German civilians?

Do you blame the Ukrainians for the tragedy at Crocus City Hall? On what basis? Because you want to?

I'll start with this part of your questions. The difference in the high civilian casualties in Palestine compared to those in Ukraine is explained primarily by the density of the living population. In Palestine it is 734 people per square kilometer, and in Ukraine there are only 80 people per square kilometer, and even that was before the Russian attack. That is, under the same conditions of shelling in Palestine, approximately ten times more civilians die due to the high population density. In addition, I saw how a multi-story building completely collapses from each missile strike on Palestinian territory. At the same time, of course, the civilian mortality rate there is very high. In Ukraine, only the entrance collapses from approximately the same impact. In my opinion, thick brick or panel/concrete houses in Ukraine are much stronger and this is explained primarily by the different climate.

Oil and its refined products constitute the main source of income for Russia and in monetary terms it is approximately 49 percent of total profits. That is, Russia receives a significant part of its profit from oil and its refined products, which are then spent on the war to seize the territory of Ukraine. In addition, gasoline and diesel are the lifeblood of military equipment. Without this fuel, Russian military equipment will be a pile of scrap metal and will not be able to ensure aggressive actions. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have long had a desire to attack Russian oil refineries, but did not have the appropriate capabilities; they appeared relatively recently, when Ukraine increased the production of its own drones. Oil and diesel are also used for civilian purposes, but the war in Ukraine is largely financed and supported by Russia through oil and its refined products.

The role of power plants in powering war cannot be compared with this role. It can be assumed that some electricity capacity is used in Ukraine for military purposes, however, in general, the generated electricity is spent on civilian consumption. But for the third year now, Russia has been striking not only at energy facilities, but also indiscriminately at housing stock, schools, and hospitals in order to simply kill more civilians and thereby intimidate them and force the Ukrainian government to stop resistance. But the terrorist country Russia will not succeed.

Muahaha as a good troll you're trying to present the situation exactly opposite to what happens in reality. In fact, Ukraine is employing the tactic of terrorism and intimidation: MLRS and battle drones are heavily used against civilian targets in Belgorod, Kursk and other Russian cities, including Moscow. I'm not even mentioning the Crocus City Hall tragedy, masterminded by the CIA and Ukrainian intelligence services.

As to the inability to turn the war in their favor, let me remind you that the "counter-offensive" of AFU ended with huge losses and no significant gains for Ukraine. Russia is attacking now all along the frontline, Ukraine is losing 1-2 towns and villages DAILY. Since the beginning of the year, AFU have lost more than 80000 troops. Most of the Western equipment had been destroyed. And you still think Ukraine is winning?    

Then explain me this: how is that possible, if Russia is attacking 97% civilian targets, why total civilian losses in Ukraine (after 3 years of war) are at least 5 times as low as civilian losses in Palestine? Last time I checked civilian losses in Ukraine were around 10k while in Gaza they have reached 50k after just a few weeks of fighting (was a while ago, perhaps even more now).

Perhaps you could also explain why you are calling power plants in Ukraine civilian targets, but at the same time you're calling oil refineries in Russia "legitimate targets" and "military targets"? What is the difference?  


Perhaps you could elaborate on this? How exactly this is going to happen?  

And they really don't have to try and persuade anyone to stop or reduce assistance because the "international community" is running out of resources they can send to Ukraine without jeopardizing their own defensive capacity.

Putin's Russia has no escape route. Putin is well aware that if his troops leave Ukraine, it will not only be the end of his more than two decades of rule, it will most likely end with his death. In Russia such mistakes are not forgiven. Unable to turn the war in his favor on the battlefield, Putin is relying on terrorism and intimidation of the Ukrainian population.

Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov, at an extraordinary meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Council on March 28, said that 97 percent of Russian strikes against targets on Ukrainian territory were against civilian infrastructure, and their total yield since the beginning of 2024 exceeded nine kilotons. Already this year, Russia has practically destroyed all large thermal power plants in Ukraine.

At the same time, Russia is looking for all possible ways to reduce the assistance provided to Ukraine by the international community. Therefore, not a single source of military tension can now exist without Russia, including the Hamas attack on Israel in October last year. Politicians bought by Russia are working all over the world like never before. And we must admit that Putin partially achieved his goal. Since October, there has been virtually no US military assistance to Ukraine. But anyway, the terrorist Putin regime will come to an end very soon.

Putin’s Russia seriously miscalculated the level of Ukrainian resistance to a large-scale attack in February 2022, as well as the amount of support for Ukraine from civilized states in its ability to defend itself from the aggressor. This has now put Russia in a very difficult position, since in the third year of one of the bloodiest wars in Europe, no global progress has been achieved. The Kremlin can no longer end this war with dignity, so it is desperately looking for ways to weaken international support for Ukraine. One of these methods is to artificially inflate military hotbeds of conflict around the world, and Russia's assistance in the Hamas attack on Israel is one of them.

According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia has already lost in this war more than 412 thousand of its military personnel, 6570 tanks, 12,508 armored vehicles, 342 aircraft, 325 helicopters, 10,029 artillery systems, 1,000 MLRS, 688 air defense systems, 25 ships and boats, one submarine, more 13,000 various automotive equipment.
In the last 10 days alone, between February 17 and 27, Russia lost ten aircraft shot down: seven Su-34 fighter bombers, two Su-35 fighters, and an A-50U long-range radar reconnaissance aircraft, with a total cost of about one billion dollars.

Now Russia is attacking Ukraine along almost the entire front, stretching over a thousand kilometers, in order to show at least some military successes before Putin’s next presidential election, while suffering colossal losses in manpower and equipment. Just to capture the ruins of the small town of Avdeevka, previously home to about 30,000 residents, Russia lost more than in ten years of war in Afghanistan.

Total destabilization, where the developed West is almost guaranteed to stand up for one of the parties, and this will definitely be the victim of aggression, is beneficial to Russia and its “brothers in world terrorism.”
This is also economic pressure on the economy, primarily the United States. This is also an increase in internal contradictions both in the polycum and among the population. And the most desirable thing for Russia is the possibility of disrupting entire segments of the world economy. There were attempts to ignite the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, but it did not work. There have been attempts, and even successful ones, at local conflicts in central Africa. Now here is Venezuela-Gaina. In the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict, Russia merged due to open and global support for Azerbaijan from Turkey. Putin retreated because he knows perfectly well that Erdogan will not “mumble”, and if necessary, he will bomb Moscow without hesitation. In African countries, support did not come, and we see the result. Now everything depends on whether the West will provide a quick, powerful response to Maduro’s aggression. If the West is soft again, this conflict may even develop into a global conflict in South America.

Well, on topic - many exchanges have realized that Russian terrorists can use them as a mechanism for transferring funds, and are beginning to cover up the interaction. Binance announced the closure of support for P2P transactions with the ruble. Also, IT companies continue to isolate the terrorist country, and for example, the largest European data center Hetzner is closing all server rental contracts with customers from Russia in order to reduce the risks of using its sites for illegal actions on the part of Russia...

The war between Hamas and Israel has been going on for two months and is close to ending with the defeat of Hamas. By attacking Israeli territory, Hamas leaders apparently hoped that other Muslim countries would support them, but this calculation did not materialize. And without such support, Israel will quickly end Hamas.

As for Putin’s Russia, this attack was not without it. The transfer of funds to Hamas in cryptocurrency is only one of the types of assistance provided to these terrorists. Putin is interested in fomenting wars around the world in order to look less noticeable against this background with his attack on Ukraine. Apparently, the next military conflict involving Russia will soon be an attack by Venezuela on Guyana.

Russia is still trying to push for its ideologies and interests through other fronts. They will never stop doing this in order to alleviate the pressure at their doorstep and make people forget the war in Ukraine by simply helping fan the flames on other conflicts. Putin has been a major supporter of these extremists for the longest time, as he knows he can use them one way or another, and it seems that it is working as more eyes are peeled on the Gaza conflict.

It may not be Putin directly, but the mere fact that the funds came from an exchange that is governed by Russians mean that this was unchecked, or rather was let slipped, by the government.

If I gave incorrect data, that is my mistake, and it may lead to incorrect conclusions, or it may objectively cause offense, which is not a good outcome. That is why - for mistakes I, as the author of the answer, think it is necessary - to apologize.

Regarding "political fatigue" - we are not going to get away from it. Neither are we going to get away from the FACTS that are out there, whether we like them or not.
I'm not imposing anything on anyone, I'm just expressing my reasoned opinion based on facts that not everyone wants to notice or understand the cause and effect relationship.
And I say this not because I want to talk about it, but because I do not want the grief that came to my country to continue its march around the world, and such a chance is very likely. I also tell the truth about Zelensky in my country, I have long said that he and his entourage and his "puppeteers" are corrupt people who can "sell" Ukraine, which they tried to do before the Russian terrorist attack on Ukraine. So it's hard for me to attribute "one-sidedness".
In order to fight evil, we must know the truth, even if we do not like it, if the truth negatively reflects the actions of relatives, friends, sympathizers, fellow citizens, government. You cannot treat a disease without finding out and establishing, even if it is unpleasant, but an honest diagnosis!

For example, the fact in the title of the topic that Russia is the main sponsor and twin, if not "father", of world terrorism.

There's no need for you to apologize to me, I'm sick of politics... but you have to calm down your experience of the world a little. We are all human after all, and it is easy to point the finger at someone, but whose hands are clean today?

I understand why you force the same narrative in all of your posts, but you are terribly wrong when you are doing that... time will show that to you, when you get older and when you realize that your Zelensky and all his ministers are getting rich while "normal" people are dying. I was in the same situation, normal people are fucked up while the politicians and their kids are just getting richer. I would like this system to end, I would like to see people more aware of the world... but when? It's the 21st century and people still think that politicians can make something good... what a joke.

The Russia-Ukraine war showed us the reality of the extent of power of Russia.
And it is saying that they reality is they don't have that power to conquer even a small country like Ukraine.
This is why their actions are now like suicidal. They are running out of weaponry as well as soldiers.
More than likely, their economy is already down this time but their leader keeps on pushing their limits.
The funding to Gaza groups may not come a surprise because they seem to be playing a game where everyone around the world is their enemy.

First of all, I apologize, I really did. Not Serbia, but Montenegro, attempted coup d'état in 2016. Just a couple of facts to clarify the participation of the Kremlin's "puppeteers" in the preparation:
The protagonists of the coup were, according to the investigation:
- Russians linked to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Federation;
- Serbian citizens, mostly those associated either with radical organizations or Serbian security forces;
- leaders of the Montenegrin pro-Russian opposition Democratic Front bloc.

So once again - I apologize, not in Serbia, but in Montenegro !

Regarding other things - yes, I do see that the west, with LATE, and not fully, fulfills its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum (regarding the security of Ukraine), which was violated by one of the signatories of this document. At the same time, other Western countries are helping Ukraine to restore the integrity of its borders and to restore legitimate authority to Ukrainian temporarily occupied territories. On the other hand, they understand perfectly well that if the brown plague of RASHISM is not stopped in Ukraine, this evil will go to Europe, as the Kremlin openly declares.
What is not clear to you here or looks "unnatural" or erroneous ?

PS on other countries and events, I understand you have no claims, everything is correct ?

It's inevitable that Russia will get caught doing such things. They are getting their ass kicked by their neighbor, in a completely unnecessary war, where hundreds of thousands of their soldiers have been killed and wounded - plus large parts of their most advanced equipment have been wiped out. Now they are left trying to fund Islamic extremists who would target Russia in two seconds as infidels, because they don't hold the same values at all. It is the most desperate of actions by Putin, a man who has ran out of tricks to pull out of his hat, which was empty a long time ago. The biggest mistake Putin made was shattering the illusion that Russia was powerful, it is a shambles of a country getting poorer by the day and making enemies for no reason except one mans greed.

Serbia? Links in one chain? You talk too much, and most of your talking is just trolling... you are shilling for your country and you are ready to step on all others who are not on your side.

I'm not sure why you mention Serbia again, I already told you once that you should come here and get to know Serbia before you start talking nonsense about something you know nothing about.


Do you really think that the West is investing in stabilization? Are you joking? Just because you get their money it doesn't mean they are good... I think you mixed something here, you should open your mind a bit more and stop shilling for the Western countries like they are supreme countries without any sins.

African countries, Serbia, Israel, Guyana... These are all links in one chain. The goal of all this is global world destabilization on all continents. The global goal is for the Western world to be unable to maintain peace, democracy, and respect for human values. Destroying is always a thousand times easier than creating. Destroyers do not adhere to laws and regulations. Creators are forced to follow rules and restrictions. That is why Russia considers Hamas its friends and provides them with technical, financial, and advisory support, as well as providing them with intelligence data and other diverse assistance. And it will use any means for this - the Russian regime is not bound by the implementation of norms and laws.

Therefore, the Russian regime has chosen a tactic - we will invest 1 million in destruction, the West will be forced to invest billions in stabilization. Let me remind the world that it is not the manifestations of the disease that need to be treated, but its root. Do not spend billions on restoration, but simply destroy the source of financing for the destruction.

It is useless to negotiate with Putin's Russia. They understand only force and nothing but force. Any calls for negotiations in Russia are perceived as a sign of weakness and a reason to increase military pressure. At the same time, the Kremlin’s calls for negotiations are only being conducted there in order to have time and the opportunity to regroup and prepare for new attacks. At the same time, Russia does not adhere to any previous agreements. This was clearly demonstrated by Russia’s war in Ukraine. For such a threat to disappear, it must also be eliminated by force. Unfortunately, there are no other options.
Now Russia is trying to fan the flames of war around the world in order to distract the world community from attention to its war in Ukraine.

Regarding Israeli assistance to Ukraine - yes and no.

If we talk about the government program and support for Ukraine, yes, I agree, there was virtually no help. Before the Hamas attack on Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu adhered to a completely pro-Russian position and minimized assistance to Ukraine, especially in terms of weapons.
“an excellent example” - Ukraine, subject to constant terrorist missile attacks from Russia, on Ukrainian peaceful cities and civilians, has requested air defense/missile defense systems. The answer was “we won’t give anything, we ourselves need it critically.” Moreover, just a couple of days ago, when Israel is under constant rocket fire, we learned... “Israel sold the David’s Sling missile defense system abroad for the first time. A historic agreement was signed with Finland.
The agreement is valued at approximately 317 million euros.
David's Sling is one of the world's leading systems for intercepting advanced threats, including ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, aircraft and drones with a range of up to 300 km. The system has demonstrated highly effective capabilities in an ongoing war in various complex scenarios." That is, it turns out:
- before the Hamas attack on Israel - “we really really need it ourselves and can’t sell it to you”
- after the attack and the ongoing attack “no question, we’ll sell it... Only to Finland”

On the other hand, the population of Israel helps very well with donations and assistance to volunteers. For example, we purchase cars for the front line, collecting assistance on our group’s card accounts. So, approximately 20% of help comes from Israelis, directly or through their relatives/friends here in Ukraine.
I can add to this - Israeli special services help Ukraine with intelligence data and other “classified information”, and there is an assumption that bypassing the prohibitions of the Israeli government... This is done through “third countries”, but this data is very important for us.

If we return to the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, Russian support, financing and consultations are very clearly visible. The idea was most likely not only to divert the world’s attention from the war in Ukraine, but also to “quickly resolve the oil issue” - a global war in the region = a guaranteed increase in oil prices. Without huge demand for oil, Russia cannot fill its budget with money. The third goal is the expected unrest in the EU. Destabilizing the EU is one of the Kremlin’s key tasks, because Germany, France and some other countries are moving away from the Kremlin’s influence. Well, plus a certain symbol - “unification of anti-Western, anti-Zionist countries”, building a “new union”, etc. showing off. But... The Russian-Iranian terrorist scenario again did not go according to plan... And now the global destruction of Hamas and other “lap dogs” of international terrorists is at stake, which is why there are so many squeals and hysterics regarding allegedly “illegal actions of Israel”