Topic: Russian Crypto Exchange Moves Money for Gaza Groups - page 2. (Read 718 times)
Russia's crypto exchange funding Hamas is not unusual because America is funding Israel just as Russia is funding Hamas, support or not The important thing to do that both sides should try to stop the war together and pray that because Bitcoin digital currency can help in many ways. We should actually call a stop to the war and sit the two sides together and decide it should be our responsibility then the common people will be saved from death and the world will have a better world.
If what I just read in the Op is true, I am not too surprised by the actions of Russian Crypto exchanges moving money to Gaza groups because there is an element of resentment between Russia and Israel. Russia's anger led by Putin towards Israel began when Russia invaded Ukraine. Israel, which supported and helped Ukraine, made Russia side with Palestine or the Hamas group in the dispute between Palestine and Israel. Russia has openly supported Palestine, Putin is ready to help Palestine with everything they need to launch an attack on Israel, including sending soldiers and sophisticated war equipment.
Israel helped Ukraine very little after the full-scale attack on it by Putin’s army, which is why the Israeli government has been criticized more than once by the Ukrainian government.Russia knew about the upcoming Hamas attack on Israeli territory and provide this terrorist organization with all possible assistance for this reason. Putin needed to divert the attention of the world community from his unsuccessful war with Ukraine, as well as weaken military assistance to Ukraine from the United States and European countries.
But I don’t think that the Hamas leaders, if they are still alive, are happy that they followed Russia’s lead and attacked Israel. Now the IDF is destroying Hamas and has already stated that Hamas has lost control of the Gaza Strip. Russia used Hamas to its advantage and now Hamas is being completely destroyed. Hamas apparently counted on military support from other Islamist states, but this calculation did not materialize.
Honestly there are both sides that does things for wrong reasons. Did you know that Mia Khalifa (the porn actress) wanted to use all her pornhub income for helping Hamas and the company rejected it and froze her account and gave all that money to IDF (Israel military).
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PornHub, an adult video site, froze income from Mia Khalifa's videos after she expressed support for Palestine and the Hamas military group during the conflict with Israel.
The company has pledged to donate 100% of the proceeds from her videos to help Israelis. This sanction is in addition to the one Playboy imposed last week when it cancelled the contract of the actress who is of Lebanese descent.
https://www.geo.tv/amp/514734-israel-hamas-war-adult-star-mia-khalifas-video-income-frozen-for-supporting-palestineThe company has pledged to donate 100% of the proceeds from her videos to help Israelis. This sanction is in addition to the one Playboy imposed last week when it cancelled the contract of the actress who is of Lebanese descent.
According to the excerpt from the news site, it didn't say anything about Mia Khalifa wanting to send funds to Hamas, rather it states that Pornhub froze her earnings based on her public support for Hamas, and that Pornhub is going to send her funds to help the Isreali people.
As someone that's resident in the US, I don't think she will be that dumb to send funds to Hamas that's been labelled as a terrorist group by the United states and other nations because she will be charged for financing a terrorist organization and she could end up in jail.
Honestly there are both sides that does things for wrong reasons. Did you know that Mia Khalifa (the porn actress) wanted to use all her pornhub income for helping Hamas and the company rejected it and froze her account and gave all that money to IDF (Israel military).
You could support Palestine, you could support Israel, this isn't regarding the war, but this is about freedom and if you want to help someone you can help that person. It is your money and if you are charged with funding terrorists then you will be charged with it by a judge, not by a company and if the company freezes your account and doesn't let you use your money, then I am sorry but that's illegal and I really do hope that Khalifa would sue them for every penny they have.
You could support Palestine, you could support Israel, this isn't regarding the war, but this is about freedom and if you want to help someone you can help that person. It is your money and if you are charged with funding terrorists then you will be charged with it by a judge, not by a company and if the company freezes your account and doesn't let you use your money, then I am sorry but that's illegal and I really do hope that Khalifa would sue them for every penny they have.
Mia Khalifa supported Hamas. Hamas is officially recognized as TERRORIST, which means it has no right to exist. This also means that any attempts to support this terrorist organization are illegal. And let Mia Khalifa thank PornHub for not allowing her to transfer money to terrorists, since after that she would have officially come under criminal prosecution for financing terrorism, with all the ensuing consequences. So even if she sues her employer, at best nothing will happen to her (Mia Khalifa), all other scenarios are punishment for Mia Khalifa for trying to support terrorism
The decentralization, anonymity and convenience offered by Bitcoin do have a positive impact for ordinary users, but also have a negative impact if used for criminal purposes. Bitcoin has long been used by criminal groups to finance their operations, not only by Hamas, but also Russia, North Korea, America, etc. There have been many cases of using Bitcoin for terrorist acts, drugs, etc., and it seems that this will continue in the future because only Bitcoin allows them to make transactions securely and anonymously.
I think there are a much bigger picture being missed here....
The enemies of the USA know that the USA are always rushing in to help, where ever there are conflict in the world. The assistance normally come in the form of financial or humanitarian help or weapons and ammunition to help in the war. So, what we have here is a situation where the USA are helping in the Ukraine and Israel and they gave more than $1 Trillion to Afghanistan. (USA basically funded the "Iron Dome" in Israel)
What does this do to the military power and economy of the USA? This aid are weakening the USA and his enemies are getting stronger. By the time when WWIII happens, USA will be much weaker from fighting and aiding in other countries.
The enemies of the USA know that the USA are always rushing in to help, where ever there are conflict in the world. The assistance normally come in the form of financial or humanitarian help or weapons and ammunition to help in the war. So, what we have here is a situation where the USA are helping in the Ukraine and Israel and they gave more than $1 Trillion to Afghanistan. (USA basically funded the "Iron Dome" in Israel)
What does this do to the military power and economy of the USA? This aid are weakening the USA and his enemies are getting stronger. By the time when WWIII happens, USA will be much weaker from fighting and aiding in other countries.
Honestly there are both sides that does things for wrong reasons. Did you know that Mia Khalifa (the porn actress) wanted to use all her pornhub income for helping Hamas and the company rejected it and froze her account and gave all that money to IDF (Israel military).
You could support Palestine, you could support Israel, this isn't regarding the war, but this is about freedom and if you want to help someone you can help that person. It is your money and if you are charged with funding terrorists then you will be charged with it by a judge, not by a company and if the company freezes your account and doesn't let you use your money, then I am sorry but that's illegal and I really do hope that Khalifa would sue them for every penny they have.
You could support Palestine, you could support Israel, this isn't regarding the war, but this is about freedom and if you want to help someone you can help that person. It is your money and if you are charged with funding terrorists then you will be charged with it by a judge, not by a company and if the company freezes your account and doesn't let you use your money, then I am sorry but that's illegal and I really do hope that Khalifa would sue them for every penny they have.
I don't get this double standards. If we want decentralized cryptocurrency where no one will be able to seize someone's funds, then we have to both agree that such currency can be both, used for good and for bad. We can't have a decentralized but centralized platform at the same time, it's just impossible, you can't create a magical knife that will only cut bread but will not cut human's flesh.
Does the honored public know that the Hamas terrorist group's website is hosted in ... Russia? The womb of world terrorism ! Are you really surprised?
This terrorist propaganda dump is hosted on the Russian hosting VDSina, which is located in Moscow.....
And everyone can check it !
For reference: Hamas has been declared a terrorist organization by Canada, UK, Australia EU, Israel, Japan and USA, and banned in Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia banned the Muslim Brotherhood in 2014 and recognized it as a terrorist organization
That said:
Russia does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, considers it a legitimate partner for negotiations, Hamas leaders have repeatedly visited Moscow at the invitation of President Putin.
This terrorist propaganda dump is hosted on the Russian hosting VDSina, which is located in Moscow.....
And everyone can check it !
For reference: Hamas has been declared a terrorist organization by Canada, UK, Australia EU, Israel, Japan and USA, and banned in Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia banned the Muslim Brotherhood in 2014 and recognized it as a terrorist organization
That said:
Russia does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, considers it a legitimate partner for negotiations, Hamas leaders have repeatedly visited Moscow at the invitation of President Putin.
The unprovoked attack by Hamas and its partners on Israel has brought so much pain and death to many people. Children have become orphans and the death of many children is heartbreaking. These armed groups shouldn't receive any funds from any country because it will keep fueling this crisis. Sadly, this is one of the disadvantaged of privacy and decentralization There was an earlier report that Binance has frozen some funds that belongs to Palestine.
This news was reported by the World Street Journal and many people might claim that it might be part of the media war going on between Russia and the West. Even the conflict between Israel and Gaza has also become a propaganda war that one needs to verify from different sources before believing the news. But if it turns out to be true then Russia should stop such support because Gaza doesn't need money anymore. What is needed now is food, medicines, water, power and peace.
This news was reported by the World Street Journal and many people might claim that it might be part of the media war going on between Russia and the West. Even the conflict between Israel and Gaza has also become a propaganda war that one needs to verify from different sources before believing the news. But if it turns out to be true then Russia should stop such support because Gaza doesn't need money anymore. What is needed now is food, medicines, water, power and peace.
Hold on, wasn't it all over the news that Hamas was created by Israel? How come it's the Russians now that support these Hamas? 
Crazy stuff that they sanctioned the BTC address of Hamas containing less than $30 in it which its last transaction was last year of May. So this is how Elizabeth Warren could actually ban BTC in the US which could be possible also abroad. It's such bad timing but I think this is where Gary Gensler can make an excuse that spot ETF will not be granted.
Crazy stuff that they sanctioned the BTC address of Hamas containing less than $30 in it which its last transaction was last year of May. So this is how Elizabeth Warren could actually ban BTC in the US which could be possible also abroad. It's such bad timing but I think this is where Gary Gensler can make an excuse that spot ETF will not be granted.
And can you make the "Israel created Hamas" argument
?I, for example, know from Soviet times that the USSR was very supportive of Palestine and Hamas. And in general, the USSR positioned itself as the key figure who created Israel, but then actively took all measures not to destroy Israel, but to cripple it. Remember at least the Six Day War (מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet ha-Yamim). Where the USSR was one of the "sponsors of the project" and its special forces were directly involved in the attack on Israel.
Yes, I agree that by the end of the Afghan war, which was launched by the USSR, the USSR even quarreled with the brotherly Hamas and Hamas began to fight against the USSR. Today's USSR, Russia, does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist group and has close and friendly ties.
That is why the news of Russia funding Hamas does not surprise me at all. I would be surprised if Russia didn't fund Hamas
PS And yes - please still dedicate to the topic "ISRAEL created Hamas" ?
After the Islamic Jihad group received the money, I suppose they use the fund to buy weapon, so if they use Crypto the fund would be traceable to where they would buy their weapon, and the trace is public. It could be a bad sentiment for crypto, but if the WSJ could also trace who is supplying the weapon for the group, this could proof that cryptocurrency could also used to reveal all the bad guys involved.
What surprised me when reading this news is what benefit this financial support in crypto has to a besieged group like the fighting groups in the Gaza Strip. The people there, including the fighters, need the basics of life, such as drinking water, food supplies, medicines, and blankets... I mean, assuming that if the fighters were able to transfer these assets to cash, how would they be able to use them? Even consumables awaiting permission to enter are in the form of support and no financial compensation is required for them. All weapons and military equipment also come in the form of aid from allied countries through tunnels and secret passages. According to my understanding, the only hypothesis is that these assets are gifts and donations to the fighters that they will spend if they succeed in victory.
Should we trust western media when they make such claims?
The Wall Street Journal is operated by Rupert Murdoch and we all know what this guy's economic interests are.
It is in his best interest to support the United State's status quo. As we saw that western media were very quick to jump to conclusions against Palestine like when they were spreading the story about beheaded babies with no evidence and while it had already been disproven, it's logical that they'd want to put Russia in the same bag.
Do these news outlets say anything when billions of unaccounted dollars are moved through the SWIFT system by senators for insider trading? Absolutely no. But suddenly when an exchange is used for its intended purpose, transacting crypto, it's all Russia's fault. In fact there's hundreds of crypto exchanges domiciled in western countries too that could virtually be doing the same, but nobody bats an eye about these...
The Wall Street Journal is operated by Rupert Murdoch and we all know what this guy's economic interests are.
It is in his best interest to support the United State's status quo. As we saw that western media were very quick to jump to conclusions against Palestine like when they were spreading the story about beheaded babies with no evidence and while it had already been disproven, it's logical that they'd want to put Russia in the same bag.
Do these news outlets say anything when billions of unaccounted dollars are moved through the SWIFT system by senators for insider trading? Absolutely no. But suddenly when an exchange is used for its intended purpose, transacting crypto, it's all Russia's fault. In fact there's hundreds of crypto exchanges domiciled in western countries too that could virtually be doing the same, but nobody bats an eye about these...
And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.
Muahaha governments want to believe they control and supervise crypto, in reality they don't control shit. What they see is just the tip of the iceberg: accounts and wallets reported by exchanges and banks. That's why they're trying to enforce KYC and similar procedures on crypto users. Fortunately, as long as you're not going to convert to fiat and withdraw, your coins are safe.
Well, the fact that Russia sponsors terrorists, and this is just the tip of the iceberg - thank you for confirming
I previously explained about crypto, fiat and “fighters against global capitalism”, and I will repeat once again - the recipients of cryptocurrency on the side of terrorist groups are smart people. They will not run to kill Israelis or blow themselves up near a checkpoint. They love and appreciate life. And comfort. And pleasure. Therefore, they will give a small part of the money to provide weapons to idiots and brainwash them, and these smart people will take the majority of the money for themselves and convert it into fiat money. Because they won’t be sold a villa or a beautiful car for bitcoins, they won’t be served in an expensive restaurant, they won’t be sold an expensive suit and watch... That’s why the points where crypto turns into fiat are controlled.
Hold on, wasn't it all over the news that Hamas was created by Israel? How come it's the Russians now that support these Hamas?
Crazy stuff that they sanctioned the BTC address of Hamas containing less than $30 in it which its last transaction was last year of May. So this is how Elizabeth Warren could actually ban BTC in the US which could be possible also abroad. It's such bad timing but I think this is where Gary Gensler can make an excuse that spot ETF will not be granted.
Crazy stuff that they sanctioned the BTC address of Hamas containing less than $30 in it which its last transaction was last year of May. So this is how Elizabeth Warren could actually ban BTC in the US which could be possible also abroad. It's such bad timing but I think this is where Gary Gensler can make an excuse that spot ETF will not be granted.
If you think it doesn't bring a bad name to the cryptocurrency then I want to disagree because governments try to convince people that cryptocurrencies are used by criminals only so if we are going to accept that cryptocurrency used by here then we are also accepting the fact crypto funds used to finance terrorism.
I haven't seen outright attempts to "vilify" cryptocurrencies, on the part of governments, by presenting them solely as a terrorist financing mechanism. The state introduces restrictive measures to prevent such steps. It's like restricting the advertising and sale of alcohol and tobacco, if that's more pleasant to perceive
But once again I repeat - most of the entities around us, unfortunately, can be used both for the benefit of people and against them, and there is a need for forced control, and some restrictive measures...
And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.
Muahaha governments want to believe they control and supervise crypto, in reality they don't control shit. What they see is just the tip of the iceberg: accounts and wallets reported by exchanges and banks. That's why they're trying to enforce KYC and similar procedures on crypto users. Fortunately, as long as you're not going to convert to fiat and withdraw, your coins are safe.
Even if it's true, bitcoin is nothing but a tool. If anything, we should condemn the exchange that helps terrorist groups and not focus on bitcoin. If they were sending USD to terrorists, would that be such a big deal? I feel like the tag Bitcoin combined with words that have negative connotations like launderers, dealers, terrorists, smugglers and hackers is chosen by the media on purpose, to create a negative image of bitcoin. They're brainwashing the masses.
I believe this is something to cover or make it real that Hamas used the firearms that were actually sent to Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
No one points to cryptocurrency as a “reason” or “to blame.” The problem with cryptocurrency, like many GOOD solutions, is that such solutions have “two sides of the coin.” And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
No it is not, that is unacceptable for most. Gaza terrorists made a surprise attack killing hundreds of civilians in less than a day, then they sent them a boasting $93 million for what? for support of terrorism? it would be much acceptable if this hasn't come thru crypto exchange, we know how this is going down to a big issue. The entire country is under siege, cutting necessities to Palestine, do you know where that $93 million is going? to the black market ofc.Jump to: