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Topic: Russian moderators prejudgment. Plagiarism and duplicate posting. - page 2. (Read 623 times)

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essentially he shirks from his direct duties

I'm not going to discuss his "reply periods" (although they're being reduced for now), but the quoted claim is questionable. As you wrote in your private message, you suspected someone of fraud - what actions from moderator did you expect in such a case? Mods don't moderate scams and misrepresentation. These are not their "direct duties".

19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).
A decent example of double standards

As far as I can tell, besides the main thread there were more threads related to this "Worlcore scam" topic earlier (including the thread of Marina Uni):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ny-talks-2251768
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-eupsprovider-sro-worldc-3380354
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/worldore-3864176
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-worldcore-wrc-4451337

I guess that from his point of view another one would be unnecessary.
Also all the Worldcore-related stuff anyway can be placed in the main topic (which is not self-moderated by the by - that means, that your posts can't be removed there by anyone but moderator and yourself). And it's a common practice in Russian section to close the surplus topics - in order to collect the information in one place and prevent shitposting/spamming, I suppose. Moreover there is a rule about dublicates (which was analyzed previously):

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting it in the local language boards if it's translated).

And a spam rule:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
russian moderators without any questions blocked the account Marina Uni

I'm afraid they couldn't do this since local mods can ban only Newbies. You'll need to apply to Global Mods if you want to ban a Full Member.
As for the questions - where did you read that you should be asked when you get banned?..
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Of course everywhere bots and spammers.  Cheesy

Dude, that's your problem, you're sick as your friend and merit sponsor Xandry.

Good luck!

When there are no arguments, then there is nothing better than an ostrich position - head in the sand  Grin
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Of course everywhere bots and spammers.  Cheesy

Dude, that's your problem, you're sick as your boyfriend and merit sponsor Xandry.

Good luck!
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Everything is quite simple. Users with the rank of Newbie can ban our moderators. Users of older grades of our moderators can't ban. They send a request to the administrators of the forum and ban such users, only administrators of the forum.
Therefore, users in the rank of newbie go to the ban almost as soon as the complaint is received and it is processed by the moderator.
Staff Russian section of the forum can't ban users high rank.

I'm talking about the same thing. It is very like that someone from the russian moderators was attuned to ban the author of the topic "Worldcore - a scam".
And he blocked Marina Uni's second profile right after she came to the forum and leave the comment.

So someone saw this comment and immediately wrote a report, "avoiding ban violation of section 25 of the rules of the forum". The moderator saw the report and was obliged to respond in accordance with the rules-i.e. to ban the account, because the message was not written in the Meta section.


Forum rules

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

Examples:

25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.


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Don't hurt our moderators.

Alex_Sr are you personal Xandry's minion? Or wanna free merit for your flattery?

"Your" moderators should doing their job correct and objective instead of this shit that they do.
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Everything is quite simple. Users with the rank of Newbie can ban our moderators. Users of older grades of our moderators can't ban. They send a request to the administrators of the forum and ban such users, only administrators of the forum.
Therefore, users in the rank of newbie go to the ban almost as soon as the complaint is received and it is processed by the moderator.
Staff Russian section of the forum can't ban users high rank.

I'm talking about the same thing. It is very like that someone from the russian moderators was attuned to ban the author of the topic "Worldcore - a scam".
And he blocked Marina Uni's second profile right after she came to the forum and leave the comment.
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And what is interesting that when account "Marina Uni" was banned, and she is again came on the forum under other login "Marina Yni", her new account had been banned from the forum less than 30 minutes.
It is seems that the russian moderators were strongly motivated to ban her and delete her comments about Worldcore company.
Why in one case the process goes more than one day, and in the other it is solved in less than an hour. What is your thoughts?

Everything is quite simple. Users with the rank of Newbie can ban our moderators. Users of older grades of our moderators can't ban. They send a request to the administrators of the forum and ban such users, only administrators of the forum.

Therefore, users in the rank of newbie go to the ban almost as soon as the complaint is received and it is processed by the moderator.

Staff Russian section of the forum can't ban users high rank.
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Don't hurt our moderators. They have a backlog and do not always have time to respond to personal messages.

Alex_Sr, I really did try to stay on their side, but soon I understood that this is only excuses.
Russian moderator xandry answered me after month after I wrote to him and he still didn't solve the problem, while administrator teymos completely helped within 2 days.
Do you think teymoss helped so fast because he was less busy than moderator xandry? I should say no. This is a matter of a competence.


About bans for plagiarizing the work goes on. This is seen on this topic:
[ List] Banned users
This list is updated every day!

From the last day I still waiting when moderators will ban a multiple accounts created by ATMcoins.
And what is interesting - when account "Marina Uni" was banned, and she is again came on the forum under other login "Marina Yni", her new account had been banned from the forum less than 30 minutes.
It is seems that the russian moderators were strongly motivated to ban her and delete her comments about Worldcore company.
Why in one case the process goes more than one day, and in the other it is solved in less than an hour. What is your thoughts?

Screenshot of the deleted comment.



Translation:
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If I say that WORLDCORE is a deceptive fraudulent structure, it means that I can prove it documentarily.
Moreover, after reading the first three pages in this thread, anyone can be convinced that I am right.
If there are any constructive comments on the above facts, I propose to discuss them. Show evidence and we will look. In the meantime, I subscribe to Veleor.

- Worldcore lied about 300,000 customers.
- Worldcore is deceiving about the audit of Ernst & Yang.
- Worldcore CEO Alexei Nasonov lied about the license of the National Bank of the Czech Republic.
- Worldcore CEO Alexei Nasonov faked a diploma of higher education.
- Worldcore CEO Alexei Nasonov is connected with international fraudster Pavel Krymov.
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This seems something worth looking into it, at least the matter of marina uni and worldcore, if anything happened there behind the courtain
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My publication will be consist of two parts.
The first part concerns the moderators of the Russian Local.
In the second part, I'll list the accounts noticed in violation of forum rules.

Don't hurt our moderators. They have a backlog and do not always have time to respond to personal messages. The backlog is associated with a huge amount of work that they have to do every day.

About bans for plagiarizing the work goes on. This is seen on this topic:

[ List] Banned users

This list is updated every day!

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My publication will be consist of two parts.
The first part concerns the moderators of the Russian Local.
In the second part, I'll list the accounts noticed in violation of forum rules.


I. Russian moderators prejudgment

❶ First of all I need to say about russian moderator xandry who answers in months after reports to him. And essentially he shirks from his direct duties.

Translation:
June 17, 2018 - Hello, xandry. Can you please check these accounts?
July 31,  2018 - No I can't. I do not have sufficient authority.



Translation:
July 03,       2018 - Hello, xandry. I created a topic in which everything is laid out in detail.
August 07, 2018 - Hello. I did not finished with the first message. [?]



Moderator xandry considers the complaint almost two months! Is this how the moderator should work? This is nonsense!


❷ Now let's talk about another russian moderator Xal0lex, who deleted the topic where I had warning Bitcointalk users about cheaters accounts (alternate topic in english - WORLDCORE Bots).

Xal0lex pointed as the reason - "There is a Worldcore topic - write there". But at the same time he didn't delete the similar self-moderated russian topic created by the Worldcore bots. Блeк пиap кaмпaния пpoтив Worldcore, ктo и зaчeм?



A decent example of double standards.



❸ A few days ago russian moderators without any questions blocked the account Marina Uni, who is the topic starter of "WorldCore - A Scam". Then she was ubanned by theymos.



Guess the person who first learned about the banned account Marina Uni before everyone else? The representative of Worldcore - FintechEU!


Translation: "Positive news - the moderators banned Marina Safonova (Nickname Marina Uni)"

How do you think who told to Worldcore employee this "positive news" before Marina Uni even learned about it herself?


❹ Beside of that, at one day moderator Xal0lex tried to close the russian topic "WorldCore - A Scam". Fortunately the topic was open again in the next day.

Дocтaли cвoeй фигнёй, peпopтaми дpyг нa дpyгa...  Angry
Teмy зaкpывaю. Увижy нoвyю пoдoбнyю тeмy - aвтopa тeмы в бaн зa cпaм.

Translation:

I tired of your garbage and your reports on each other ...  Angry
Topic is closed. If I see a new similar topic then the author got the ban for the spam.

Why moderator Xal0lex didn't close also the official self-moderated Worldcore topic, where all critic posts are still deleting?


❺ I informed the russian moderators in private messages and in the special russian topic about copy/pasting made by the same bots.
But the russian moderators xandry and Xal0lex didn't take any action and completely ignored my posts with the solid proofs.
Despite of this they immediately reacted to the next message after mine post.
Is it a moderators prejudgment? Because of that I need to write in english-speaking threads everytime.

Taking into account this fact I start to think that russian moderators are cooperating with the users on which I reported.


Conclusions on the first part.
The sum of arguments listed above gives a reasons тo suspect russian moderators in the deal with the company Worldcore.

It is important that the moderators were are not biased, make their work qualitatively and adhere to a neutral position no matter in what country they are live.


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II. Plagiarism and duplicate posting

Information about 11 Bitcointalk users who constantly copied own and others comments (Forum rules violation p.12, 33).


1. "SteelLiver"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1006631
Original https://profitgid.ru/xakery-vzlomali-administraciyu-atlanty-i-trebuyut-btc-vykup.html

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43173804
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ny-talks-2236259
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42994967
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43351389
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42607954
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42608063


2. "ALEX BRN"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/five-winds-asset-management-fwam-scam-4457333
Original https://otzovik.com/review_5649833.html

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42806998
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752346

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167882
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167945
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43168036
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416556
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416580
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414664
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414743
4)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43352983
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43353019
5)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235609
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235647
6)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752591
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752649


3. "serzp"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234035
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234059
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234794
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414946
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414999
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354749


4. "U1tra"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754315
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39633911

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754146
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39901411

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42987545
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42987592
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754981
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755172
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755122
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755223


5. "VikarResid"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40498885
Original https://tradingbeasts.com/five-winds-asset-management-review-scam/#comment-1582

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38540465
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36947564

Duplicate publication:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39450764
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39451185


6. "ValarCrais"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38474160
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36946581


7. "Squeeze"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37446292
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32272371

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37666588
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32656773


8. "araksancres"

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42750252
Original http://archive.fo/JJJKp (message #2672)

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293558
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293584
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293626
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988215
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/five-winds-asset-management-fwam-scam-4457333
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988616
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43033727


9. "Mnezius"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38510987
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36949012

Duplicate publication:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39385955
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39386461


10. "Risiandsen"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43232078
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43232160
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43662667
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43295796
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43353929
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42749040
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42749091
4)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43411610
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43411724


11. "Sinfang"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41361970
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443096
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41362267
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443185
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41362586
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443257
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