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Russia is currently the most powerful and strong country I have heard many praises of them on the internet.  In which it is said that Russia can destroy this whole world if it wants.No matter how strong countries like America are, they cannot spoil anything of Russia.  Because Russia has nuclear bombs and they are so dangerous that they have the power to destroy 100 countries like America in 1 minute.All I know is that America may not be as strong and powerful a country as it wants to be.  But they will think 100 times whether we should compete with Russia or not.A news report says that Russia has placed nuclear bombs on every country.  If any country dares to lay a finger on Russia, Russia will grind it to dust.Hahahahaha yes you are absolutely right because Russia has spread its fear all over the world.  If someone wants to take a country, Russia can give it, but what you have said, it can do it to them.

Russia is one of the real independent countries in the world.

They ain't like the NATO muppets. Look at Germany for example. They can't lift a finger unless their daddy the US approves it. That goes for every other NATO member. Once they are in, they become a pawn for the US. France, Italy, Germany, Spain you name it, all of these countries ain't no independent. They lost their independence once they accepted the US' aid during the WWII. They are only a cash cow for the US now. Daddy comes home when he is out of money, takes the money from the cash register and leaves...

The EU was going to have energy agreements with Russia, the daddy interfered and started a war. Daddy reminded the EU who their daddy is, messed Ukraine up, killed thousands of Russians... There is another war in the middle east and the EU can't buy any energy from the Arabs too.

Where are they going to get the energy?

From the daddy.

Come to daddy.

Daddy has cheap energy.

But it is on the other side of the damn ocean??

Whaat, are you going to make a deal with Russia??

I'll fuck you up. Buy my energy.

The trade of oil is very convoluted and Russia is always trying to hide the source of shipments, however the UK government like all others is pretty effective at cracking down on it. What you seem to be ignoring is the fact that India, along with other Middle Eastern states and many other states, openly buy this oil that is stained with the blood of every Ukrainian. If you think that a few shipments that get investigated and shut down, compared to the wholesale trade of it by others, is a big deal to the UK economy - then you really are clueless to the scales involved here. There is satellite monitoring which would make it impossible to get away with such dirty deals on a large scale in any European connected waters.

Good marketing can make a bad product sell more than a good product. Marketing is as important as having a product.

Russia is truly blessed with a lot of resources, and they have enriched themselves. If you look at Russia, they have built their country with those resources, and that is why they have all the money they use to empower themselves in weapons and other neclure weapons. However, it is not enough to want to even build weapons; there are other things that money can be used for, and Russia is one of the most feared countries because of their policies.

They are supposed to be other alternatives for electricity, and I am surprised that many countries are still using coal to generate electricity. Why not switch to new modern ways of generating electricity, such as turbines and many clean ways of generation, such as solar and batteries, when it even helps to reduce heat and hazardous things that will make the environment clean.

Their is always a shake in the global market when it comes every time they are going to war and the thing I hate most is how puttin enjoys going to war because of in relevant things. And only countries that depend on them for supplies are the one to suffer when they are at war.

This is not limited to Russian oil, such practice of circumventing sanctions by use of the intermediate shipping channels. This is a known aspect of international oil trade: close down the oil fields and continue business as usual even as pressured by politics. Business and profits as you noted in such instances normally takes precedence. Even more so for countries and corporations interested in accruing income from energy exploration, irrespective of the source.

Really interesting stuff Regarding this is the long-term effect it might have on the economy as a whole and the oil market itself. While these transactions would probably help the UK in the short term, It might also increase the global foreclosure market significantly. Especially if there are other countries that use similar measures oil price fluctuations combined with geopolitical tensions this can cause volatility not only in currencies such as GBP but also in volatility.

It also raises some ethical considerations regarding the sanctioning process, whether or not these countries intend to make profits from such transactions. It then creates a hybrid situation in that the economic as well as political interests involved change constantly. I would like to know how long this can drag on before there's a serious tiff in international relations.


Indeed you are correct, vast Russia resources also play an essential role in the world economy. Russia's dependency on oil, coal, and other supplies even in the face of a political crises Diverges how the world is integrated, countries like the United Kingdom And many more are found on an incongruous position. That is, taking a political stand on the war in Ukraine. Yet, still wanting the same Russian resources to wage war to generate revenues.

Diplomatic relations between England and Russia especially in the field of trade It still clearly has an underground role. Even though it was boycotted by the public. Sanctions are supposed to weaken the Russian economy. But as we saw in the energy crisis across Europe, It is difficult for many countries. To completely cut off such a valuable resource.

What's interesting here is how the war highlighted the ease of access to energy around the world. and how wars can force states to Rethinking its energy strategy Many people are already investing in renewable energy. But in the short term Expectations for Russian assets show that the global economic chain remains highly vulnerable.

I suspect that this crisis will make countries Is it faster to switch to renewable energy? Or will we continue to see such measures for short-term economic gain?

There is no conflict between Ukraine and Russia. Russia made a military invasion of Ukraine in order to seize its territory and destroy the independence of this state. This is the most ordinary aggressive and large -scale war, in which hundreds of thousands of people from both sides die. Therefore, it is necessary not to exert pressure on the "political leaders", but specifically to Putin and his environment, so that he would withdraw his occupation troops from Ukraine. And for this it is necessary to use all funds - from sanctions, diplomatic efforts to destroy the invading Russian soldiers by providing all kinds of assistance to Ukraine to reflect Russian aggression.

Sanctions cannot work effectively in a short time, but they slowly and confidently give their destructive effect for the Russian economy. Russia has vast territories and in this regard, large available reserves. But when they run out, it will be very difficult to raise the economy. Most likely, through internal conflicts as the consequences of this war, Russia will fall into many independent states. This will be a clear lesson for those authoritarian states that are now observing the progress of this war.

Russia is a country rich in all kinds of natural resources. Most of the world's countries depend on Russia's crude oil, coal, uranium, and other natural resources. If Russia stopped exporting coal, the lights wouldn't go on in many countries because many countries' power plants would shut down. Russia and the UK have good diplomatic relations and the United Kingdom is heavily dependent on Russia in many ways. When the Russia and Ukraine wars were organized we saw many countries facing problems for war.

In this war of personal interests and hypocrisy things are taking changes even many are believed Russia is losing on due to mass loses of its weapons and other things but still they are standing why it's important because they are getting their money from selling oil and natural gas through few points which are open and no one have power to stop them with we all know things are going worst for Ukraine as well, but truce is not acceptable for anyone here at this point.

In coming weeks most chances we will be stayed on this same level because it's favourable for few countries with this situation they are taking profit as well Russia is always destroyed by themselves because they have never been going to stop things which are vulnerable for them.

Here best point is just these countries try to sit and have some solution about few areas and things which can make things easier for all stakeholders otherwise this war is going to long as they can with EU is having own interest so they will be keep stand behind Ukraine but still can't do anything positive for them as well.

Despite the Kremlin's daily propaganda among the Russian population about the necessity and justice of attacking Ukraine, as well as maintaining the myth of Russia's invincibility, more and more Russians are becoming convinced that their SVO in the third year of the war is clearly not going according to the intended scenario and the war they have unleashed is increasingly moving to the territory of Russia itself, especially after the Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied about 1,300 square kilometers of Russian territory in the Kursk region on August 6. But it is one thing to watch Russian troops victoriously advancing across a foreign country from the couch on TV, and another when they increasingly began to see the consequences of the war from the windows of their apartments or houses.

Until now, the recruitment of Russians into the army took place on the basis of large payments to servicemen, including one-time payments, which have already reached 2 million rubles. But human resources are not endless in Russia either. If all these years about 70 percent of Russians supported Putin and his SVO in Ukraine, now their belligerence is sharply declining.

Only a little more than a third of Russians are ready to continue fighting, almost half of Russian citizens want an urgent peace. Almost half of Russian citizens, 49%, support the conclusion of peace with Ukraine and the withdrawal of Russian troops without achieving the goals of the so-called "SVO", as the war against Ukraine is shamefully called in the Russian Federation.

This is evidenced by the results of a survey by the Chronicle project and the Extreme Scan research group from September 10 to 17. It is noted that 49% is the highest figure since the beginning of the war, while only 33% of Russians are ready to fight to the bitter end, which is the lowest figure since February 2022.

In addition, 63% of Russians support the conclusion of peace between Ukraine and the Russian Federation on the basis of mutual concessions, if this happens within the next year. 49% chose peace instead of mobilization, only 29% supported a new wave of mobilization and the actual continuation of the war.

It is interesting that the number of those who are not afraid to openly speak about their unwillingness to sign a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense and go to war has grown significantly - there are 30% of them. On the other hand, the number of Russians ready to go to war has fallen to 32%.

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That would mean Putin would accept to defeat and when you are a dictator the only thing you have is the illusion that you have power. If you lose that power then what stops people from making you take a step back one more time and than one more time and then again and again.

This is why he is willing to keep his position and illusion of power as long as he has to, and Russia is still falling in line with him, sending soldiers, nobody knows what to do, I am sure they do not want this war neither but elections are famously rigged, hell if someone looks like they may win, Putin just kills them, so it's clear that we are seeing this changing long term and I believe that we are going to see Putin keep attacking and as long as Russians do not stop him, which would be near impossible, they will end up dying in thousands as long as this war goes on. Neither side could stop at this point and I think we are going to see both side be in a constant war state for many many years.

In order for the war between Ukraine and Russia to end, Putin's Russia must first of all want it to. Putin can end this war any day by withdrawing his troops from Ukrainian territory. The end of the war on the part of Ukraine will lead to its complete capture and mass extermination of Ukrainians and the destruction of Ukraine as a state. A truce is impossible here, since Putin perceives the desire for negotiations as a manifestation of weakness, and then, on the contrary, he becomes impudent in his demands.

In addition, Russia will use any truce to prepare for new military aggression, since Russia's military potential has already been significantly destroyed on the battlefield in Ukraine. Putin is now bluffing in many ways in his threats. In order for the war to end as quickly as possible, it is necessary to eliminate Russia's ability to commit military aggression against other states.

It is possible to create buffer gray zones, but at the expense of the aggressor's territory. If someone does not agree, they can offer the territory of their country for this purpose.

These are all general phrases that have no practical usefulness. If you are in favor of Ukraine now sitting down at the negotiating table with Russia, then it should be recalled that in 2014 a ceasefire agreement was already concluded after Russia seized the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. This truce was never respected by Russia, because its goal was to capture all of Ukraine. Therefore, since 2014, there have been constant battles on the demarcation line, and in 2022, Russia directly attacked Ukraine from three sides, also using the territory of Belarus for this.

Now Putin’s Russia demands that Ukraine give Russia, in addition to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, also Zaporozhye and Kherson. If you are for negotiations, then suggest what Ukraine should do in this case. Just also keep in mind that Russian troops are now harshly dealing with the population in the occupied territories for considering themselves Ukrainians and destroying everything Ukrainian, including books and textbooks. If you leave these territories to Russia, real terror of the civilian population will continue there.

Key to solutions are always available, but sadly things like these usually works after having worst currently same happening in Ukraine we can go ahead with table talk and things ca sorted out without any problem but as mentions personal ego and allow common peoples to have relief because we all checking what is happening but just voice versa going around and all are playing number games even now Trump is also saying after re-electing as president he will use his power to sorted out this all but until then we have more causalities and more troubling life for millions.

Currently, we are having many areas which can settled with the table talk but no one is interested because they are having own priorities and just going ahead with them because without having their own priorities no one will bring solid solution for this all business is going ahead with sanctions are also staying, but all is working well.

You absolutely do not understand what Russia is doing in Ukraine now and what goals it is pursuing. Putin's Russia wants to destroy Ukraine as a state and Ukrainians as a nation. In the occupied territory of Ukraine, everything Ukrainian is destroyed and Russian is implanted; for any words of sympathy for Ukraine, people are shot or deported thousands of kilometers deep into Russia into depressed regions for the purpose of assimilation, and Russian citizens are transferred to the occupied territory of Ukraine. After this, do you propose to hold referendums there under the watchful supervision of armed Russian soldiers?

What does this have to do with the pride of Ukraine? Ukrainians are now fighting for their survival, freedom and independence. Who should we negotiate with if Russia has already included in its constitution the ownership of the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and four regions of Ukraine as Russian territory? Do you want Ukraine to leave its citizens there to be torn apart by Russia? Have you seen what the Russians did and continue to do in the occupied settlements of Ukraine? Mass graves of civilians and numerous torture chambers are found everywhere. Therefore, any Russian occupier is destroyed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces if he does not surrender.

"Let's find a solution" is something I do agree that should be very important to handle, it's basically what we should all be doing. I understand that it is not going to be easy, but it could definitely be something that will take a while. All in all, people should realize that if the war was meant to be over, leaders could have gotten together and finish it by now, if they both wanted it to be over, it would have been over. What we are seeing right now is that both sides are putting their pride before anything else, and that's why they are having this situation.

A solution could be found, like some grey area, not Ukraine and not Russia area, independent, or put it up for voting there, give a truce for a while, fix things, and then do elections there to decide. It is not important what's the end result, if they wanted it to end, it would have been over now.

Indeed, war will create an impact of uncertainty in the economic sector, the war situation in Ukraine has a very serious impact on the global, with Russia attacking Ukraine causing hostility between countries, on the other hand, those who attack are avoided by countries close to it by cutting off trade in all sectors including England initially supplied oil from Russia, because they objected to the Ukrainian attack they broke off the existing cooperation, but after the attack
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all Russian oil imports said they would import from other market countries that had oil wells, as a result of this the war had a very detrimental effect on all parties.

EU should be the largest trading partner for Africa because its only a few miles between the southern parts of Spain and the northern coast of Africa which is an entire continent of course.

  Logistics will matter alot there, its far easier for those two trading blocs to swap goods to mutual advantage and that is the base line for regular profitable trade.

If we are discussing trade and oil then its about China really as China lacks oil and also shares a border with Russia.   There is some trade ongoing there but its not to the extent that EU previously traded with Russia for oil and gas; famously Germany decided this was a good idea to be fully reliant before doing a full reverse.   This volatility and lack of foresight was important in the lead up to war imo.

   I personally expect trade to decide this war and the direction of economies and nations in this area.  People have ideals and ideas across a broad spectrum but its quite simply decided by money alot of the time.  Wars are expensive in all respects and not profitable like mutual trade is.

   China needs Russian oil, they have little and this is also true of India though they are more distant but this aspect of supply and demand is a larger factor in outcome determination then other factors.

The situation with war and peace in Ukraine is not as simple as it seems at first glance. Putin's Russia cannot agree to a fair peace agreement with Ukraine, since this would mean defeat in the war and the collapse of Putin's regime and his personal death. Therefore, Russia has already introduced four regions of Ukraine into its legislation and now demands that Ukraine withdraw its troops from these territories and give them to Russia, and also put forward other demands that are in fact the capitulation of Ukraine. Of course, Ukraine will never agree to such conditions.

In addition, in Ukraine they understand perfectly well that even if they agree to such enslaving conditions, this will not bring the long-awaited peace. Russia will use the truce to rebuild its battered army and will again attack the rest of Ukraine with the goal of capturing the entire territory. Russia's seizure of parts of Ukraine in 2014 only led to a full-scale invasion in 2022. Therefore, real peace can only come after the complete defeat of the Putin regime.

Some Western politicians are also making a proposal that they say, let's let the people of the occupied territories of Ukraine choose for themselves which country they want to live with and hold a referendum there. But, firstly, a referendum at gunpoint of Russian tanks and machine guns leads to only one result with numerous violations of electoral law, which actually turns into an imitation of elections with predetermined indicators of their results. Secondly, Russia is already actively importing its citizens to the occupied territories and deporting Ukrainians from there to various depressed regions of Russia for the purpose of their assimilation. Who do you think the Russians who have been displaced to the territory of Ukraine and thus become Ukrainians will vote for?

Each side will defend their own reason, and they will always be right for what they did, they will always find a reason why they are right. Obviously, we will say that whoever shot the first bullet is the wrong one, but even those people will make sure that they have a "good" reason to do it, you may disagree, or you may agree, but the one thing we all have in common that we would love it to stop.

There is no reason to fight, get on the table, chat, and figure out a solution that is peaceful and even if you have to do some other way, make elections and let people decide on the resolution. We will have zero problems left after that, because killing each other will NEVER be the solution to anything in the world, haven't been for once, won't be ever.