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Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

You are delusional to think that sanctions can help fight Russia.

Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

Even if ruble will go to zero, Russia would still continue producing tanks and rockets and paying their military.

The ruble can't go to zero but I get your point. If the ruble goes to zero that would mean inflation will be at about 200% and no country can fight a war and win with that kind of inflation. The price of everything would be so expensive that they would be forced to turn their focus on the economy instead of war.

Let me remind you of history:
USSR being a more progressive and technologically advanced country. In a sense, the USSR had a self-sufficient economy.
The USSR was not technologically backward like modern Russia. The USSR had not only a resource economy, the level of third world countries, as now Russia has.
The USSR waged war for 10 years in Afghanistan, killing millions of Afghans and tens of thousands of its terrorists who went to kill Afghans.
The western world imposed sanctions against the USSR. and in 10 years the USSR ceased to exist !
Nothing is impossible! Especially now the position of Russia is on the back of world politics, its place has been taken by China, China benefits from stability. In fact, no one is interested in Russia, it has shat all over itself and stained itself in everything it can.

Haha gave me a good laugh (as always) Grin

So, it turns out Soviet Union collapsed because of the western sanctions? Mkaaaay Grin

I'm not even sure what sanctions you mean? The 1980 grain embargo? Grin

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Quote from: Shortmaster on July 30, 2023, 03:49:49 PM

Russian oil been sold from UK first they took oil to dark UK sea conours and load to different ships.
Everything is money and business so a lot wealthy get profit so off course no questions asked.
So no Wonder why british gbp was going up and forex market has a lot demand becouse of russian oil

The oil been sold to Europe the EU bought and still buy it from UK

I do not know if this is happening or not, but presuming that it is I do not find it strange, during the cold war the US bought indirectly from the USSR all kind of strategic resources like titanium, so it makes sense that the UK and other countries were doing the same with Russian oil which has been selling for cheap for some time.

Now this may seem to be a hypocritical move, and maybe it is, but governments are moved by self-interests, and if buying Russian oil benefits the UK then their leaders will make that move without even thinking about it.

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Based on this article and this article what UK and EU doing is actually buying the Oil from third party like India who is actually getting their Oil from Russia. Looking at how this things going, how the EU and UK exploiting this loophole on their own punishment for Russia, all this sanction only look like a gimmick. All that being said, if the European country can't find the other way to fulfill their oil needs I can really blame them for doing this, also this sanction will not only harm Russia but also harming the EU and UK since they will need to buy more expensive oil from the second hand countries who bought Russian Oil.

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In the upcoming resource-based global politics as always from History at least from a few years, Russia is standing among the top nations due to the natural resources they own. Russia is constantly working with foreign policy for trading its resources and making allies with trading strategies. Even Russia is trying to overcome the universal status of the USD which seems like going to be a success shot in the near future. Russia is offering Local currency trade for that purpose especially targeting the new Aisain market and Gulf markets. USD's global status ruined the economic cycle of many countries a few years back and still until now countries under the world bank and IMF are trapped in the USD reserves system which is obviously a bad move for their own current valuation and economy.

As Russia is heading up with new offers it might get helpful for those countries who are under economic crisis due to the IMF policies.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 31, 2023, 05:11:08 PM

Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

We cannot blame those countries for trying to find secret solutions to overcome their crises, especially since the repercussions of the Ukrainian war were catastrophic and sudden in a way that did not leave them enough time to adopt alternative solutions. The biggest of these crises was Russia's implementation of its threat to stop gas supplies through pipelines shortly before winter, especially since the countries that depended on Russian gas did not have enough stations to import and transfer liquefied gas. Add to that the cessation of grain supplies. How do you expect European countries that were partially or completely dependent on Russian or Ukrainian exports, which were also halted by the warة to live?

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on August 02, 2023, 02:03:44 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

You are delusional to think that sanctions can help fight Russia.

Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

Even if ruble will go to zero, Russia would still continue producing tanks and rockets and paying their military.

The ruble can't go to zero but I get your point. If the ruble goes to zero that would mean inflation will be at about 200% and no country can fight a war and win with that kind of inflation. The price of everything would be so expensive that they would be forced to turn their focus on the economy instead of war.

Let me remind you of history:
USSR being a more progressive and technologically advanced country. In a sense, the USSR had a self-sufficient economy.
The USSR was not technologically backward like modern Russia. The USSR had not only a resource economy, the level of third world countries, as now Russia has.
The USSR waged war for 10 years in Afghanistan, killing millions of Afghans and tens of thousands of its terrorists who went to kill Afghans.
The western world imposed sanctions against the USSR. and in 10 years the USSR ceased to exist !
Nothing is impossible! Especially now the position of Russia is on the back of world politics, its place has been taken by China, China benefits from stability. In fact, no one is interested in Russia, it has shat all over itself and stained itself in everything it can.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on August 02, 2023, 02:03:44 AM

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

You are delusional to think that sanctions can help fight Russia.

Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

Even if ruble will go to zero, Russia would still continue producing tanks and rockets and paying their military.

The ruble can't go to zero but I get your point. If the ruble goes to zero that would mean inflation will be at about 200% and no country can fight a war and win with that kind of inflation. The price of everything would be so expensive that they would be forced to turn their focus on the economy instead of war.

Well, the ultimate goal of sanctions is to make people's life uncomfortable enough to force them to choose another leader/government. I can't remind of any such event happening in the past. Cuba is living under sanctions since 1960s but no effect on nation's political course whatsoever. Venezuela? North Korea? Iran? Nope. So, sanctions are ineffective. In fact, they are doing more bad than good for the EU and US. Finally, as you have mentioned, they are definitely not going to stop the war. Therefore, sanctions should be cancelled ASAP to prevent further harm to Western economies.

Regarding the ruble, it was an exaggeration, but what I can tell you is that what works for other countries won't work for Russia. Russians are special in way, they can withstand much harsher conditions than many other nations. I know many Russians and my ex-wife is Russian too so I know what I'm talking about... Grin

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 01, 2023, 01:55:34 AM

The Western sanctions are sabotaged with back room deals from India and China and some African countries. The markets just adapt and the Oil still flow through new channels to the UK and other countries that supposedly support the sanctions.

Russia has shown no indication that the sanctions are hurting them, because they just opened up new revenue sources through other nations. The sanctions are just a "smoke&mirror" show by Politicians to satisfy their voters, but the money and oil are still doing business like usual. Tongue

A fine opinion, entitled to life, like any personal opinion.
But there is one problem... According to your words there are no problems, but the Kremlin is screaming on every corner - lift sanctions, and the state budget reports a 50% failure of oil revenues, while the volume of production has not decreased.
Don't you worry about such a severe dissonance from reality ?

PS and a question to ask - why do buyers of 90% of oil from the terrorist country pay in rupees and yuan, and forbid to exchange them for dollars, which for some reason have become so necessary for Russia ?

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on August 02, 2023, 02:03:44 AM

Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

You have a raised valid concerns regarding limitations of economic sanctions in achieving desired outcomes. Economic sanctions may initially produce some results , but later targeted countries devise strategies to mitigate their impact on their economies overtime, and same thing is happening in Russia Ukraine conflict now.

The Russia Ukraine ongoing conflict has led to heavy human causalities, collateral damage and economic difficulties all over the world. We should raise our voices to exert pressure on political leaders to find effective ways to bring this devastating conflict to an end.

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Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

You are delusional to think that sanctions can help fight Russia.

Sanctions have worked to an extent, but I don't believe sanctions can make Russia stop the war. This looks like a war in that the ego plays a very big role. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor NATO would want to agree that they've been defeated.
Without the sanctions, Russia would have been able to do more harm to its enemies through economic means and otherwise. At this point, they're just looking for ways to survive whatever sanction that gets thrown at them and they've been managing well so far.

Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

Even if ruble will go to zero, Russia would still continue producing tanks and rockets and paying their military.

The ruble can't go to zero but I get your point. If the ruble goes to zero that would mean inflation will be at about 200% and no country can fight a war and win with that kind of inflation. The price of everything would be so expensive that they would be forced to turn their focus on the economy instead of war.

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Quote from: livingfree on August 01, 2023, 05:41:13 AM

With OPEC limiting their daily supply, countries would have to look for other resources and that's why it won't be surprising if that's happening.

And with all of these oil countries selling it are the ones who's making the bucks now and having a good economy. While those that don't have oil deposits and gas on their lands, they're the ones who's badly affected by these players in the world market.

Sanctions, borders and any other issues sticking with these countries. Still, at the end of the day you'll see them have their own trades no matter what boundary they have and will still find ways to acquire the cheapest ones.

That's just how it is done, there isn't really anything that is done any other way. I do hope that people would change soon enough but I do not think that this is something people are shocked about. Oil is needed and no matter what type of block you put against it, when nations need it, they will end up going over that block and get it one way or another.

There isn't a world where we can live without oil at all. That's sad of course, because we should be able to, and we need to make sure that it goes well enough, but unfortunately it's not going to be that simple. We need to go into a world of renewable energy so that we could continue to do well, otherwise it doesn't really matter in the end and we will be depending on these other nations.

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Quote from: serveria.com on July 30, 2023, 04:55:03 PM

Quote from: Shortmaster on July 30, 2023, 03:49:49 PM

Russian oil been sold from UK first they took oil to dark UK sea conours and load to different ships.
Everything is money and business so a lot wealthy get profit so off course no questions asked.
So no Wonder why british gbp was going up and forex market has a lot demand becouse of russian oil

The oil been sold to Europe the EU bought and still buy it from UK

Not a secret actually. Even Ukraine is secretly buying oil from Russia via the Baltic states, Bulgaria, Turkey etc using US and EU aid. Same for the natural gas. Most countries are doing it although it's not announced publicly.

True, it is very easy to identify due to market volatility, it will raise fears that prices of everyday goods from food to gasoline and heating which are already rising rapidly, could soar even higher. on the other hand Russia is the second largest crude oil producer in the world and supplies about a third of Europe's needs.

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With OPEC limiting their daily supply, countries would have to look for other resources and that's why it won't be surprising if that's happening.

And with all of these oil countries selling it are the ones who's making the bucks now and having a good economy. While those that don't have oil deposits and gas on their lands, they're the ones who's badly affected by these players in the world market.

Sanctions, borders and any other issues sticking with these countries. Still, at the end of the day you'll see them have their own trades no matter what boundary they have and will still find ways to acquire the cheapest ones.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 31, 2023, 05:11:08 PM

Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

Sometimes I don't blame them because they are considering national interest before international politics. Russia is a big player in the oil and gas sector, hence many nations depend on it and will continue to depend on her for oil and gas for a long time. And because of the war, Russia is selling its product at discounts so most countries are attracted to Russia's oil and gas. This war in Ukraine has thought me that every nation should seek peace with other nations because war is unpredictable. And relying on allies for assistance during conflict might be a big mistake because most of them have limitations, hence they can disappoint.

If you don't blame them and know that the national interest must come first, you should not call them hypocrites, because they only do what is beneficial to the country and that is their responsibility. Although they are supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia, they cannot leave their people alone for the sake of outsiders. It is citizens who are the main factor determining the survival of European nations, not Ukraine's victory over Russia more important.
I don't support Europe for their continued support of war weapons but I wouldn't be surprised and support them if they buy Russian oil in any way.

Yes, yes, yes, the voice of reason, finally! Would you give your neighbor, whose house is on fire, some water, knowing that your children are thirsty? Probably no, that's brutal truth. Strong national governments take care of their people and won't send more aid than they can afford. Weak, artificially installed (and remotely governed from the other side of the pond) governments spend billions on Ukraine and neglect their own people.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 31, 2023, 05:11:08 PM

Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

Sometimes I don't blame them because they are considering national interest before international politics. Russia is a big player in the oil and gas sector, hence many nations depend on it and will continue to depend on her for oil and gas for a long time. And because of the war, Russia is selling its product at discounts so most countries are attracted to Russia's oil and gas. This war in Ukraine has thought me that every nation should seek peace with other nations because war is unpredictable. And relying on allies for assistance during conflict might be a big mistake because most of them have limitations, hence they can disappoint.

If you don't blame them and know that the national interest must come first, you should not call them hypocrites, because they only do what is beneficial to the country and that is their responsibility. Although they are supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia, they cannot leave their people alone for the sake of outsiders. It is citizens who are the main factor determining the survival of European nations, not Ukraine's victory over Russia more important.
I don't support Europe for their continued support of war weapons but I wouldn't be surprised and support them if they buy Russian oil in any way.

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Quote from: DrBeer on August 01, 2023, 01:27:39 AM

Quote from: Zlantann on July 31, 2023, 05:11:08 PM

Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

Sometimes I don't blame them because they are considering national interest before international politics. Russia is a big player in the oil and gas sector, hence many nations depend on it and will continue to depend on her for oil and gas for a long time. And because of the war, Russia is selling its product at discounts so most countries are attracted to Russia's oil and gas. This war in Ukraine has thought me that every nation should seek peace with other nations because war is unpredictable. And relying on allies for assistance during conflict might be a big mistake because most of them have limitations, hence they can disappoint.

There are no direct oil supplies to NATO countries. That's fantasy. There is foul play by some third party suppliers. Read above - I described the scheme of how some oil "resellers" hide Russian oil by mixing it with other grades and passing it off as oil of other origin. Minor volumes of such oil do get into the EU market. But both the EU and Britain and the U.S. are actively fighting this re-export of international terrorist resources.

Official statistics: 86%-87% of Russian oil is bought by India and China. Small volumes go to Turkey. A little goes to Asian countries: Vietnam, Bangladesh, Pakistan.

PS always check the information before evaluating it

Please don't take our little lying propagandist shill friend seriously. Here's some official data: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/whos-still-buying-russian-fossil-fuels-in-2023/

Guess who's TOP3 buyer of Russian fossils? Surprise! Turkey is also on the list btw, and Turkey is a NATO country.

Besides: https://nra.lv/latvija/410937-vairakus-menesus-caur-latviju-uz-ukrainu-ar-viltotiem-dokumentiem-tiek-vesta-krievijas-degviela.htm Google translate this article. It's about Ukraine secretly buying Russian oil with fake shipping documents. Grin

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The Western sanctions are sabotaged with back room deals from India and China and some African countries. The markets just adapt and the Oil still flow through new channels to the UK and other countries that supposedly support the sanctions.

Russia has shown no indication that the sanctions are hurting them, because they just opened up new revenue sources through other nations. The sanctions are just a "smoke&mirror" show by Politicians to satisfy their voters, but the money and oil are still doing business like usual. Tongue

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 31, 2023, 05:11:08 PM

Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

Sometimes I don't blame them because they are considering national interest before international politics. Russia is a big player in the oil and gas sector, hence many nations depend on it and will continue to depend on her for oil and gas for a long time. And because of the war, Russia is selling its product at discounts so most countries are attracted to Russia's oil and gas. This war in Ukraine has thought me that every nation should seek peace with other nations because war is unpredictable. And relying on allies for assistance during conflict might be a big mistake because most of them have limitations, hence they can disappoint.

There are no direct oil supplies to NATO countries. That's fantasy. There is foul play by some third party suppliers. Read above - I described the scheme of how some oil "resellers" hide Russian oil by mixing it with other grades and passing it off as oil of other origin. Minor volumes of such oil do get into the EU market. But both the EU and Britain and the U.S. are actively fighting this re-export of international terrorist resources.

Official statistics: 86%-87% of Russian oil is bought by India and China. Small volumes go to Turkey. A little goes to Asian countries: Vietnam, Bangladesh, Pakistan.

PS always check the information before evaluating it

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Quote from: coupable on July 31, 2023, 01:16:10 PM

This is correct. It also applies to Russian gas after Russia cut off supplies through pipelines. As investigative media reports indicated that many European countries were finding their way to buy Russian gas through other means, and this was in their interest and Russia's interest as well, without showing this to the public.
The war in Ukraine has many peculiarities, especially since the main actor in it (Russia) has an important position in the global economy and in providing the basics of life for a large part of the planet's population, including the population of the closest neighbor (Europe).

I never knew that some NATO nations are still secretly buying oil from Russia. Before now I thought it was just China and India that are helping Russia invade sections. Most of these NATO nations are hypocrites if truly they are secretly buying oil and gas from Russia and are deceiving others to stop buying. The UK and other countries are always boasting that they are not buying Russian products because they have discovered alternative suppliers but still buying them in secret.

Sometimes I don't blame them because they are considering national interest before international politics. Russia is a big player in the oil and gas sector, hence many nations depend on it and will continue to depend on her for oil and gas for a long time. And because of the war, Russia is selling its product at discounts so most countries are attracted to Russia's oil and gas. This war in Ukraine has thought me that every nation should seek peace with other nations because war is unpredictable. And relying on allies for assistance during conflict might be a big mistake because most of them have limitations, hence they can disappoint.

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Quote from: serveria.com on July 31, 2023, 02:15:24 AM

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There are massive sanctions globally against products from Russia including Russian oil, crude oil to reduce source of income for Russia and restrict their financial flow for their war against Ukraine.

It is a massive sanction efforts from the Western nations but there are always dark markets and Russia actually have some friendly nations to make business deals like China, North Korea, India and countries from Africa.

However sanctions actually reduce their income and their ability to buy and produce more ammunition, armed vehicles because no sanctions can be perfect in reality.

You are delusional to think that sanctions can help fight Russia. Already now, many countries admitted they're buying oil from Russia at a higher price then the limit of $60/barrel set by the EU. Market doesn't give a damn about sanctions and limits. In fact, it works the opposite way - sanctioned goods and resources are getting more expensive (e.g. grain after the grain deal collapsed, oil immediately after the war started etc).

Even if the sanctions would work, it wouldn't lead to Russia stopping the war. Russia is a self-sufficient country. Factory workers are getting their salaries paid in rubles, military personnel is getting paid in rubles. Even if ruble will go to zero, Russia would still continue producing tanks and rockets and paying their military.

You can tell tales of high prices to patients at the home for the mentally ill

And the fact that you are lying is easier to be convinced than to breathe ! According to the "forge of lies" - Russian official channels - oil sales have not fallen, prices have even increased...but the budget does not receive more than 50% of oil revenues, compared to the previous period. Question : 2+2 = 1,5 ?

And it is very easy to understand why. India and China, very cleverly, and for their own benefit manipulate Russia and its oil market. Yes, prices are announced at 60 and even higher. But there is a nuance:
- a high declared price is an excuse to fool their population into buying cheap gasoline (as they do in India).
- A high declared price in DOLLARS, a small manipulation turns into.... half of this money gets stuck in India (friendship - what do you want !?

). The rest - lies dead weight in Russia, as India does not sell dollars or critical goods for rupees

)
- Also, China's purchase - the price is announced, but in the end - a pile of wrappers (yuan) in Russia and .... ALL, no more revenues, just phantoms and commodities for pennies, which neither Indians nor Chinese want to buy

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