Russia's Stock Market Amidst War Against Ukraine

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on March 23, 2022, 06:55:59 PM

This is what happens when you have a President with no basic knowledge of business and economics. All Putin thinks about is Bombs, and nothing more. Your country is losing relevance in all spheres of international trade and diplomacy, you keep shouting BOMBS!
Russian stock market is going to fall more and more until Russia makes peace with the world

I don’t think so, Russia wont become powerful now if Putin knows nothing, I’m not trying to defend him but I think something deep reason why he push the war, and he knows the consequences of this one most probably. Its been a Month now since the invasion started, so many people died already I hope they can end this war now and go for the peace talk, I hope this wont escalate with other countried.

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This is what happens when you have a President with no basic knowledge of business and economics. All Putin thinks about is Bombs, and nothing more. Your country is losing relevance in all spheres of international trade and diplomacy, you keep shouting BOMBS!
Russian stock market is going to fall more and more until Russia makes peace with the world

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Quote from: Luqman on February 27, 2022, 07:29:07 PM

Almost all of them are experiencing very bad down because of this war.
We know how the stock keeps dropping from the first day of the war and I think that it will keep dropping. Do they not concern with this situation? Do they not care anymore about the economy and financial systems of the country?
There are so many political interests in this war and I personally still cannot determine who is right and who is wrong. But, one that I always note, war is very bad, it will only give losses in everything for both.

I think that the government is now not very worried about the situation in the stock market. Now they need to debug all broken delivery routes. Of course, the economy is in a terrible state, we can see this in the state of the ruble, which has lost a lot in relation to the dollar. I think it will last until the end of the operation, and maybe longer.
I agree with you that war is bad. But if it started, then there are reasons that we are not given to know. We can only wait and watch everything that happens.

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All this is just temporary, Governments especially when it comes to war don't see Market outlook, they know markets work on the auto-correction mechanism, even if today they are slightly dumping once things settle it will definitely come back to normal, Governments are more concerned about economic outlook before declaring the war, the inflation in the economy, the growth rate that could be hampered, the loss of supply chains of essentials, etc. and dependency on the enemy country for trade, etc. These are the things that matter the more to the government. However, profitability, you are right is never the idea behind any war and can never be an idea behind the war.

I am not sure that such a drop that we are seeing in the Russian stock market is going to be temporary, after all who is going to want to invest their money in a country that is being heavily sanctioned by a great deal of countries around the world? So even if the conflict could be resolved quickly I think the long term effects on the economy of the Russian citizens are going to be felt by them for a very long time and they may need even years to recover from them.

or one thing that may possibly change their path is if they will change their leader. but if putin will stay in power, for sure, it will be long road to recovery. russian people all around the world may also receive some sort of discrimination. but they need to live with it because of what their leader had done to innocent civilians. i can feel the anger of zelensky when he saw that a family was killed without a fight. innocent civilians are dying because of this war. we are in the 21st century and yet, we are still witnessing this kind of violence.
the sanctions will not go away anytime soon, it will be a long process before they can go back to where it was.

While that would be for the best, who has the strength within the Russian government to oppose and to defeat Putin? Right now this seems unimaginable so I do not see it happening any time soon, maybe during the next years if the Russian economy keeps suffering and people begin to complain then we may have a more conductive scenario for that to happen, but at least for the moment Putin will remain in power and he will do whatever he wants.

What happens is that in the Russian government they have ideals that are very radical, almost to death, I don't see a possible betrayal of Putin, in Russia they are suffering many declines, many things at an economic level that are and are suffering there, but due Because the Russian government manages all information and the information that comes out of it is controlled, so it seems that things are fine, but I'm sure there are many problems, the lines in the banks, the way that many try to change rubles to dollars. , things there are not good at all, this would be reflected in the stock market from now on, the crash that occurred is something remarkable. They have not completely collapsed because they have the Chinese economy, and by having an ally of that style they will hardly be able to have notable falls that they themselves say.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 07, 2022, 06:54:33 PM

Quote from: South Park on March 06, 2022, 05:44:45 PM

Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2022, 05:22:55 PM

All this is just temporary, Governments especially when it comes to war don't see Market outlook, they know markets work on the auto-correction mechanism, even if today they are slightly dumping once things settle it will definitely come back to normal, Governments are more concerned about economic outlook before declaring the war, the inflation in the economy, the growth rate that could be hampered, the loss of supply chains of essentials, etc. and dependency on the enemy country for trade, etc. These are the things that matter the more to the government. However, profitability, you are right is never the idea behind any war and can never be an idea behind the war.

I am not sure that such a drop that we are seeing in the Russian stock market is going to be temporary, after all who is going to want to invest their money in a country that is being heavily sanctioned by a great deal of countries around the world? So even if the conflict could be resolved quickly I think the long term effects on the economy of the Russian citizens are going to be felt by them for a very long time and they may need even years to recover from them.

or one thing that may possibly change their path is if they will change their leader. but if putin will stay in power, for sure, it will be long road to recovery. russian people all around the world may also receive some sort of discrimination. but they need to live with it because of what their leader had done to innocent civilians. i can feel the anger of zelensky when he saw that a family was killed without a fight. innocent civilians are dying because of this war. we are in the 21st century and yet, we are still witnessing this kind of violence.
the sanctions will not go away anytime soon, it will be a long process before they can go back to where it was.

While that would be for the best, who has the strength within the Russian government to oppose and to defeat Putin? Right now this seems unimaginable so I do not see it happening any time soon, maybe during the next years if the Russian economy keeps suffering and people begin to complain then we may have a more conductive scenario for that to happen, but at least for the moment Putin will remain in power and he will do whatever he wants.

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Quote from: South Park on March 06, 2022, 05:44:45 PM

Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2022, 05:22:55 PM

All this is just temporary, Governments especially when it comes to war don't see Market outlook, they know markets work on the auto-correction mechanism, even if today they are slightly dumping once things settle it will definitely come back to normal, Governments are more concerned about economic outlook before declaring the war, the inflation in the economy, the growth rate that could be hampered, the loss of supply chains of essentials, etc. and dependency on the enemy country for trade, etc. These are the things that matter the more to the government. However, profitability, you are right is never the idea behind any war and can never be an idea behind the war.

I am not sure that such a drop that we are seeing in the Russian stock market is going to be temporary, after all who is going to want to invest their money in a country that is being heavily sanctioned by a great deal of countries around the world? So even if the conflict could be resolved quickly I think the long term effects on the economy of the Russian citizens are going to be felt by them for a very long time and they may need even years to recover from them.

or one thing that may possibly change their path is if they will change their leader. but if putin will stay in power, for sure, it will be long road to recovery. russian people all around the world may also receive some sort of discrimination. but they need to live with it because of what their leader had done to innocent civilians. i can feel the anger of zelensky when he saw that a family was killed without a fight. innocent civilians are dying because of this war. we are in the 21st century and yet, we are still witnessing this kind of violence.
the sanctions will not go away anytime soon, it will be a long process before they can go back to where it was.

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Quote from: teosanru on February 25, 2022, 05:22:55 PM

All this is just temporary, Governments especially when it comes to war don't see Market outlook, they know markets work on the auto-correction mechanism, even if today they are slightly dumping once things settle it will definitely come back to normal, Governments are more concerned about economic outlook before declaring the war, the inflation in the economy, the growth rate that could be hampered, the loss of supply chains of essentials, etc. and dependency on the enemy country for trade, etc. These are the things that matter the more to the government. However, profitability, you are right is never the idea behind any war and can never be an idea behind the war.

I am not sure that such a drop that we are seeing in the Russian stock market is going to be temporary, after all who is going to want to invest their money in a country that is being heavily sanctioned by a great deal of countries around the world? So even if the conflict could be resolved quickly I think the long term effects on the economy of the Russian citizens are going to be felt by them for a very long time and they may need even years to recover from them.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on February 24, 2022, 04:15:12 PM

Rising up in war against brothers is a good point actually, I leave the war started for nothing and none will get profit out of this between these two counties who are directing participating this war. Stock markets will fall during this time especially the centralized markets in these two countries while I heard many people are trying to take cash from the banks in Ukraine and leave this country as soon as they can, while the government ordered the banks to do not give any cash to people(a Ukrainian friend of mine told me that.) also the other problem in Ukraine is about finding gas stations. All these bad situations will affect these two countries in the long term while other countries like China are taking benefit from it.

It's a lie ! Cynical, deliberate FALSE!
In the early days, some restrictions were indeed introduced. It was impossible to shoot per day, for one person, more than 100.000 UAH. At that time it was about 3300 dollars. For one person, once a day. But you can shoot every day, any citizen.
Moreover, many banks have canceled the accrual of penalties for the use of loans, canceled the accrual of interest for 1 month.
As of today, February 28, 2022, the exchange rate of major currencies has decreased. If the day before yesterday the exchange rate was 31-32 UAH/USD, now it is already 29 UAH/USD

This is all easy to check. So tell your friend that he is a lying "PEZDUN"

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Almost all of them are experiencing very bad down because of this war.
We know how the stock keeps dropping from the first day of the war and I think that it will keep dropping. Do they not concern with this situation? Do they not care anymore about the economy and financial systems of the country?
There are so many political interests in this war and I personally still cannot determine who is right and who is wrong. But, one that I always note, war is very bad, it will only give losses in everything for both.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on February 27, 2022, 08:52:37 AM

Russian national bank has restricted short selling following amidst War Against Ukraine. They can't keep a trading halt in place forever. More losses coming, collapse of their economy may be a defining moment to stop Putin. The common people Russia already protest as they lost severely in the stock market. If Russia-Ukraine struggle long, it'll affect from one side of the planet to the other. The wind can blow toward another destination and something changes. Russian Ruble falls 50%, however Putin really does mind it? You can't control Putin, he has four significant energy markets to impact greater expense for all. Putin might have effectively determined the cost of what might happen including these sanctions.

I don't know if Putin is thinking about his people now. When I watched some of the video clips about the interrogation of these captured Russian soldiers, they are saying they don't know that they are in war. They thought it was only military exercises and they were deceived by their government. A lot of these soldiers don't want this war. But it seems Putin will not back down on this war. Even if their economy collapses. Too bad for its people. Maybe it is high time to change their President this upcoming election in 2024.

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The global economy is getting more difficult because of the war between Russia and Ukraine, if the war does not end there will be other wars such as North Korea vs South Korea, China vs Taiwan and so on, in general the Russia vs Ukraine war will also impact the Russian stock market and get worse if sanctions are imposed. from the US is enforced.

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Russian national bank has restricted short selling following amidst War Against Ukraine. They can't keep a trading halt in place forever. More losses coming, collapse of their economy may be a defining moment to stop Putin. The common people Russia already protest as they lost severely in the stock market. If Russia-Ukraine struggle long, it'll affect from one side of the planet to the other. The wind can blow toward another destination and something changes. Russian Ruble falls 50%, however Putin really does mind it? You can't control Putin, he has four significant energy markets to impact greater expense for all. Putin might have effectively determined the cost of what might happen including these sanctions.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on February 26, 2022, 01:48:26 AM

Obviously Russia will suffer for this. However, the problem is that Putin will not suffer because of it, Russians will but Putin will not. We have seen Russian people on the streets condemning the war even against a dictator, they know they will be jailed or killed and yet they still got out and protested the war. Because, they know that this war will only bring death and destruction and chaos to their nation as well.

So, the only reason for this war is Putin, nobody else, no other person is responsible for this, maybe some high ranked officials with Russia, or maybe some generals, but I am sure that even 90% of the soldiers would rather be at home right now.

They will? But I thought Russia is a powerful country, than the others. So, I think they aren't the one that will suffer or we can say the president wont suffer to this but it is only their people because they are the ones that are devastated the most by war. Putin on the other hand feels complete because he already did what his heart desires.

The profit that they got is not money because as we can see the stocks of the country is also declining but its about the power. Every other country wants to be better or wants to dominate. It is not only the Russia's stocks that are affected on this war but also Ukraine and even the cryptocurrencies. The effect is so wide.

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What's on Putin's mind is far more than monetary outcomes.

But yeah, it does seem like a huge hit on the regular citizens of Russia. Most of the sanctions are going to be hitting hard on the citizens as opposed to high ranking government officials or the oligarchs. The citizens will be the ones left holding the bag, unable to transact with the rest of the world, being censored etc.

Makes me wonder though if these Russian stocks would be worth a buy at some stage as a value bet?

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This war is a political power shown by a higher power word countries Russia vs Ukrain and both countries have to negotiate to defend/protect the sovereignty of the country and this crash in the stock market is expected after all war is a bad thing nothing can survive during wartime and the sharp drop in the price of many stocks is as a result of limited liquidation which leads to non-resistance, with hope things may return to normal but. until then the panic sell-off will continue.

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Quote from: Obito on February 26, 2022, 01:09:07 AM

Hope that Ukraine will be able to defend in this perilous situation.

Russia is not being reasonable in attacking of Ukraine. No Ukraine won't be able to face the Russian military except intervention from other countries like US and that is very dangerous thing to happen. Russia has threatened to fight any country coming into this and making plans for retaliatory sanctions. The best is for this attacks to stop because there won't be gain but losses at the end.

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I don't think anyone will benefit if there is a war, where as we know there is war because of natural resources that we want to control,
And Ukraine has such long-term economic value that Putin wants to own it
here just hope that the war will end soon so that not many civilians die in vain

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Quote from: cheezcarls on February 25, 2022, 08:00:44 AM

And because of Russia’s stock market drops, some of the billionaires there have most of their wealth wiped out in just one day.

Although it may seem like a lot of money to you, for the Russian elite it is almost insignificant - they are not naive and tied only to Russia, but have effective methods of hiding money through various tax havens and will continue to live as luxuriously as before. After the war, they will surely become even richer, and the highest price will, as always, be paid by the poor who go to war for the interests of their politics.

The Russians have been preparing for this since they occupied Crimea and eastern Ukraine, and sanctions will not harm them as some have hoped - at least not in the short term.

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War's an investment in national security, not a profitable business enterprise. The investment is you hold power and secure safety for your citizens, and that you're willing to pay significant capital in order to maintain security. Russian stock market will continue to tumble with what ever sanctions the U.S. and EU decide to play on Russia, but Putin does not have that in mind. He views the west as a threat to Russia's existence and felt the need to invest in an invasion of Ukraine so that he wouldn't face as much geopolitical pressure from NATO. The only way we'd see if the investment was worth its cost is if Russia is successful in capturing Ukraine. Odds are in their favor.

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It's all just boasting the recent power acquired. I see no big reason behind it. Another one is cutting the ties to form a group which could lead to a revolution someday. Yes, resources may also be a part of it but damn a country like Russia is big enough, I don't think they have depleted all the resources there.
It's just to say something to other countries using bombs and other destructive stuffs and for them to know they have the power to fight back now unlike before.

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