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Xtreme Monster
August 05, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
#44
so why is Vega FE not performing the same or at least in the same ballpark? Same GPU (well as far as mining goes it's identical), same memory (only more of it on FE) so I fail to see how the RX Vega can double or TRIPLE the hashrate. Driver optimization, okay do it with FE it shouldn't really matter.

VEGA Frontier is not a gaming card. But I do agree concerning the hashrate jump to 70mhs to be too much even with somethings enabled on the gaming version.
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August 05, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
#43
so why is Vega FE not performing the same or at least in the same ballpark? Same GPU (well as far as mining goes it's identical), same memory (only more of it on FE) so I fail to see how the RX Vega can double or TRIPLE the hashrate. Driver optimization, okay do it with FE it shouldn't really matter.
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Andrius | Junior Business developer at Unboxed ICO
August 05, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
#42
ajaj, I am afraid you people are dreaming a little too much. At the end we all are going to be disapointed.
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Xtreme Monster
August 04, 2017, 10:38:36 PM
#41
Exactly, however, they are spouting nonsense.
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August 04, 2017, 09:37:15 PM
#40
For the type of memory operations that ETH does, the R9 series has already shown that HMB is more constraining than GDDR5 (bandwidth != speed). To expect something different from HMB2 which is basically the exact same thing is ridiculous. HMB however has been shown to be very effective for ZEC memory operations, and I'm much more interested in the benchmarks for sols where I expect it to shine.
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August 04, 2017, 09:24:35 PM
#39
Well, the sweet spot on a 480 is around 1125 with tweaked memory timings and clocks and that pulls ~ 32mh/s so the core is only utilized at around 75%. That would mean a 480 is capable of roughly 43mh/s if it wasn't memory/thermal/power constrained. Efficiency would of course go right out the window.

Using that same math I'd figure that full on 4096 Stream Processor Vega should pull around 77mhs or so if it isn't memory/thermal/power constrained. That's also assuming AMD hasn't added some secret sauce to bump mining efficiency.

That being said, I'll believe it when I see it. AMD hasn't exactly delivered when it comes to their GPUs and really has been disappointing back to the 200 series. 
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August 04, 2017, 09:12:34 PM
#38
AMDs marketing* strategy is ambiguity, lol

These guys sell so much hardware on lies

I feel sorry for anyone in here who has a ryzen chip in anything but a work station....

They're even targeting us miners with their lies. If this wasn't a paper launch and more than likely you're gonna be able to flip those GPUs for more than you got em. THere is no way I would consider buying them before I see it hashing on various algos unmodded.

legendary
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~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
August 04, 2017, 09:08:36 PM
#37
claymore said vega fe 41mhs abit oc memory but unoptimized miner, with new gaming driver for rx vega & proper miner with some mod/ocing vega should get 60mhs or more
and the time will come as the grave for 1070/1080ti , huhahahaha bye2 nvidia miner
with heavy undervolted run under 200w we see the new king is shining

tbh, i have a feeling Nvidia is holding back on Pascal.  The other day they announced a driver unlock for Pascal Titan's that increased compute performance GREATLY
Some say it's to help combat any edge Vega would get coming up here.
I have a feeling inna few weeks they may do the same on 1080ti, and im not a miner dev, but a compute performance increase seems to me would increase their mining capability Smiley
Time will tell, they announced RX Vega will be in the wild (in stores) Officially Aug 14th
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August 04, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
#36
a rumor becomes fact when there's a a bench mark in the real world application that hash rate sounds too good to be true. in actual mining i bet the hash could be max at 50mh/s. but it is still quite tempting to buy vs the nvidia gtx 1080ti 8gb. i know there are a lot of gamers waiting on the line when the 1080ti gets dumped by the miners when this vega's hash rate is true.
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August 04, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
#35
I bet the rumor was probably started by a gamer who was pissed off that miner's f'd up the gaming gpu market and so he made this shit up hoping everyone all of the sudden stops buying GPU's to hold out for the Vega just so he could get his hands on a 1070 at retail price.
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August 04, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
#34
claymore said vega fe 41mhs abit oc memory but unoptimized miner, with new gaming driver for rx vega & proper miner with some mod/ocing vega should get 60mhs or more
and the time will come as the grave for 1070/1080ti , huhahahaha bye2 nvidia miner

Who cares about Eth with nVidia ? facepalm

nVidia mines GPU intensive algos , not memory dependent  like ETH
legendary
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August 04, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
#33
claymore said vega fe 41mhs abit oc memory but unoptimized miner, with new gaming driver for rx vega & proper miner with some mod/ocing vega should get 60mhs or more
and the time will come as the grave for 1070/1080ti , huhahahaha bye2 nvidia miner
with heavy undervolted run under 200w we see the new king is shining
legendary
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August 04, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
#32
The ORIGIN of this rumor is one person that appears to work for a UK reseller site - and THEY claimed it was a "unconfirmed rumour from one person at one of the AIO partners" and supposedly due to some updates made to the drivers.

 It seems VERY unlikely that a driver update could DOUBLE the performance (keep in mind, the Frontier Edition and the RX Vega 64 use THE SAME GPU), though I could easily see driver optimizations adding 10-20% more performance.

 AMD has been comparing the Vega 64 vs the 1080 - NOT the 1080ti - but while it seems to be comparable to the 1080 on benchmarking (wins some, loses some), AMD has also made a point of comparing "MINUMUM FPS" in games not average.
 They say it's because the min FPS is more closely related to how smooth a game feels (which is a valid point), but it also implies that they do NOT believe they actually match the overall performance - and they certainly do NOT match the TDP/power efficiency.

 It also looks like the Vega RX 56 is going to be close in performance to the 1070 - but again, at a significantly higher power usage.


 I'm planning to get one Vega RX 56 early on (there is a specific application it should work WELL on that I use, even if it turns out it's NOT a good cryptocoin mining card, or worse case I toss it in my current Gaming system as an upgrade from the current RX 470) and plan to run it through quite a few benchmarks before I decide if I want any more of them.

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August 04, 2017, 12:19:42 AM
#31
Any preorder?
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August 04, 2017, 12:12:05 AM
#30
okg
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August 03, 2017, 11:13:01 PM
#29
Pic or it didn't happen
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 03, 2017, 10:54:55 PM
#28
70 mH would be super impressive. I hope Vega will destroy 1080Ti like Ryzen is destroying top Intel CPUs right now!

Price point of 499 makes it almost certain it does not beat the 1080 ti.

If it clearly beats the 1080 ti why not list at 649.

The 1080 ti sells well at 700-750

So everyone would buy a cheaper card if it is clearly best .
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August 03, 2017, 10:23:44 PM
#27
Nothing but Gamer FUD to lock in pre-orders.

You will be lucky to get 50 mh on this card and even then that would be decent IF vega does not experience diminishing hashrate in which vega FE does. 
I have a feeling the Gtx 1060 gb will be the eth leader in the future.

But there are other coins to mine such as Zcash so lets wait a bit and get real numbers on all the algos.

you sound so out of the loop lol.
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August 03, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
#26
Nothing but Gamer FUD to lock in pre-orders.

You will be lucky to get 50 mh on this card and even then that would be decent IF vega does not experience diminishing hashrate in which vega FE does. 
I have a feeling the Gtx 1060 gb will be the eth leader in the future.

But there are other coins to mine such as Zcash so lets wait a bit and get real numbers on all the algos.
sr. member
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August 03, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
#25
Well, this could be what makes Polaris cards essentially obsolete. With these kinds of cards entering the Ethereum mining atmosphere and the big freeze coming, Polaris could have a quicker end than we previously expected. Wonder how these guys hash on XMR and other algorithms, though. These are rumors, though, so don't take them too seriously. We don't know how these cards actually do in mining tasks.

How so? It still seems nvidia has a serious edge in the variability of coins it can mine well.  If folks are using polaris cards for ETH they're giving up BTC they could be making more of off other algos.
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