Memory Bandwidth != Memory Speed
HMB is not a boon for ethereum mining. If it was, everyone would be mining ETH with R9 Nanos. However, it will likely be very good for ZEC, as the Nano was.
Topic: RX Vega Rumored to Hash 70+ Mh/s - page 3. (Read 7410 times)
100 MH is pure BS...the THEORETICAL max that Vega can do with its 480GB/s bus is around 60MH. With overclocked memory (lets be generous and say 20% increase), you could theoretically be looking at ~70MH. Real world you can not hide 100% of the memory latency so 50-60 is more realistic.
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Dont get it why was people thinking that vega 64 will mine about 35MH same as FE (which doesnt have drivers, isnt optimized in miners, and overclock) vega 64 have about 120% increase on memory speed over rx 570, but again 64 is using 300wats, and costs about 500$, at the end it is the same thing
Dont get it why was people thinking that vega 64 will mine about 35MH same as FE (which doesnt have drivers, isnt optimized in miners, and overclock) vega 64 have about 120% increase on memory speed over rx 570, but again 64 is using 300wats, and costs about 500$, at the end it is the same thing
That is based on frontier and fury which both are hbm and they hash no more than 35mhs, get your facts straight.
By the way who stirred rumors was gibbo from ocku which in my opinion, that guy would do everything for people to preorder the gpus from his website. I will only believe if he posts anything which for now is a closed case.
"Where did you get that figure?"
"Guy internally from one of the AIB's, maybe he is smoking the BS pipe. "
It seems Gibbo heard from somebody, so point null, move on , nothing to see here yet.
HBM1 (fury is HBM1) and HBM2 isnt the same thing i read somewhere that HMB1 wasnt good for mining, because of latency, but time will tell, we can only speculate for now.
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Dont get it why was people thinking that vega 64 will mine about 35MH same as FE (which doesnt have drivers, isnt optimized in miners, and overclock) vega 64 have about 120% increase on memory speed over rx 570, but again 64 is using 300wats, and costs about 500$, at the end it is the same thing
Dont get it why was people thinking that vega 64 will mine about 35MH same as FE (which doesnt have drivers, isnt optimized in miners, and overclock) vega 64 have about 120% increase on memory speed over rx 570, but again 64 is using 300wats, and costs about 500$, at the end it is the same thing
That is based on frontier and fury which both are hbm and they hash no more than 35mhs, get your facts straight.
By the way who stirred rumors was gibbo from ocku which in my opinion, that guy would do everything for people to preorder the gpus from his website. I will only believe if he posts anything which for now is a closed case.
"Where did you get that figure?"
"Guy internally from one of the AIB's, maybe he is smoking the BS pipe. "
It seems Gibbo heard from somebody, so point null, move on , nothing to see here yet.
More than double Vega FE = total bullshit. OCUK is trollin' for clicks or preorder 
70 mH would be super impressive. I hope Vega will destroy 1080Ti like Ryzen is destroying top Intel CPUs right now!
AMD employees trying to stir up sales.
so.. is it gonna do 1400 sols/s per card as well?.. 
I doubt it. The Ethereum hashing increase is from the new memory interface utilizing the HBM2 memory type. This is what will radically speed up the ETH mining. However the core is most likely nearly the same or hopefully close to the nVidia 1080 ti, so if this card got around 700 SOLs that would be quite a bargin as the card is about half the cost of the 1080 TI.Faster ETH
Same Equihash
A little less power
30-50% less price (depending)
All those stack up for a hell of a deal!
I fully agree ETH is more memory speed oriented with HBM2 which is in my opinion even better than next gddr6 for mining, we can expect about 70MH, while ZEC is more core speed oriented and vega 64 will be same as 1080ti or lower, we can expect about 680-720sols on 64.
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Dont get it why was people thinking that vega 64 will mine about 35MH same as FE (which doesnt have drivers, isnt optimized in miners, and overclock) vega 64 have about 120% increase on memory speed over rx 570, but again 64 is using 300wats, and costs about 500$, at the end it is the same thing
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a Hype Rumor started by AMD just to generate attention and sales.
It wouldn't be the first time AMD has overstated performance claims...
It wouldn't be the first time AMD has overstated performance claims...
Well, this could be what makes Polaris cards essentially obsolete. With these kinds of cards entering the Ethereum mining atmosphere and the big freeze coming, Polaris could have a quicker end than we previously expected. Wonder how these guys hash on XMR and other algorithms, though. These are rumors, though, so don't take them too seriously. We don't know how these cards actually do in mining tasks.
This would instantly make mining way profitable again at $400 a card.
70 is more than double. 100 would be over triple. We will hear more news very soon and may be buying these things like nes-minis
Not necessarily. Think about it. If 100,000 of these things come online within the next month or so the Ethereum network hashrate will likely triple or even more than that as well. This means the mining difficulty with skyrocket and while you may then be mining at 2-3x the speed of what you were with your RX 570s, those will only be pulling in 1/3 or even less than they were before! You will pretty much need to get your hands on these right away if you ever want a return on your investment.70 is more than double. 100 would be over triple. We will hear more news very soon and may be buying these things like nes-minis
My problem is flexibility, AMD just dosent have enough algos it performs as well or better than Nvidia in, so the potential for ROI is WAY greater in this speculative market we are in.
Look at coins like Netko and SIGT, everyone (me included), ROI'd ANY amount of 1080ti's in last 3 months just mining those coins, while AMD has Dagger coins , which they chase the Epoch of , and what XMR? :/
Ill believe Vega at 70mh/s when i see it, plains and simple
and im sure it will be too late by then ;p 
This would instantly make mining way profitable again at $400 a card.
70 is more than double. 100 would be over triple. We will hear more news very soon and may be buying these things like nes-minis
Not necessarily. Think about it. If 100,000 of these things come online within the next month or so the Ethereum network hashrate will likely triple or even more than that as well. This means the mining difficulty with skyrocket and while you may then be mining at 2-3x the speed of what you were with your RX 570s, those will only be pulling in 1/3 or even less than they were before! You will pretty much need to get your hands on these right away if you ever want a return on your investment. 70 is more than double. 100 would be over triple. We will hear more news very soon and may be buying these things like nes-minis
so.. is it gonna do 1400 sols/s per card as well?..
I doubt it. The Ethereum hashing increase is from the new memory interface utilizing the HBM2 memory type. This is what will radically speed up the ETH mining. However the core is most likely nearly the same or hopefully close to the nVidia 1080 ti, so if this card got around 700 SOLs that would be quite a bargin as the card is about half the cost of the 1080 TI.Faster ETH
Same Equihash
A little less power
30-50% less price (depending)
All those stack up for a hell of a deal!
so.. is it gonna do 1400 sols/s per card as well?..
This could get interesting.
https://videocardz.com/71591/rumor-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-to-be-great-for-mining
https://videocardz.com/71591/rumor-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-to-be-great-for-mining
really ridiculous article anyways:
nothing is clear or confirmed.
"....70 MH/s...."
"Vega Frontier mining performance (which has a hash rate of ~30 MH/s)."
which is it.
Vega Frontier and RX Vega 64 is not the same card.
Holy cow that would be insanely interesting if true! Sadly the "craze" is still very much on so it will pretty much be a zero sum game for anyone who buys these outside of like day one. I confess I would love to get my hands on some but with the difficulty increase that the thousands of these coming online will bring.. it may be pointless. I am not sure why people are all "think of the poor gamers!" - seriously why does AMD care? They sell out of cards they make money. Only a business that is bad at doing business would NOT want to sell out of their entire stock the moment it becomes available.
I predict they will be bought up and resold at huge markups on ebay like everything else
This could get interesting.
https://videocardz.com/71591/rumor-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-to-be-great-for-mining
https://videocardz.com/71591/rumor-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-to-be-great-for-mining
really ridiculous article anyways:
nothing is clear or confirmed.
"....70 MH/s...."
"Vega Frontier mining performance (which has a hash rate of ~30 MH/s)."
which is it.
I think it will use too much power.
Who cares if it will use too much power, in the end performance and cost are the only things that matter. For example, the $399 version, if the $399 uses 2x more power than the rx 580 and makes 2x more money then is a better card cause it will take a single pci-e slot + is much easier to maintain a single card than 2 cards.
I will believe it when I see it, but also remember Vega is going to use double the watts of Nvidia, so not really a big deal
not double the watts of a 1080TI
250 tdp vs 300 not that far apart
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