Topic: S3+ (BM1382) Overclocking with voltage setting - page 2. (Read 28804 times)

i think you are right.
after i click save&apply, it feels no change.
but when i turn it off and turn it back on suddenly it has a big change (like lower/faster fan speed).

Just a big FYI: You actually DO HAVE TO REBOOT after changing freq/volt. Just check your System Log. Scroll to about the 4th line from the bottom. You'll see the line with all your cgminer start/pool info. It also has the freq/volt settings for cgminer. I found out that just doing the Config save/apply button doesn't change the miner settings. They will be whatever you had previously. It's a good check to see what's going on.

Happy mining!!

Right on.  I tried mine at 262.5 and it freaked out, had ASICs showing ooo-o-- and hash rates were way down.  I settled at 250 also, nice balance of overclocking without running the machine into the ground.

I don't know anything about queue, sorry.

the newest firmware kind of sucks anyway, i use the 12/19/2014 one.

Ok...sounds good. I have gotten in /w puTTy but I still get the 'Permission Denied' error. Won't let me mod.

I'll track down the info I have put together, it's really very simple once you know what to do (yea, isn't everything? lol).

Learning to use the vi editor is way more confusing, just wait...  

what are you trying to do??

the newest firmware disabled the VDD adjustments because very few S3s had the chip that let that happen..

the newest firmware kind of sucks anyway, i use the 12/19/2014 one.


no need to ssh into the miner, all of the over clocking can be done in the menu.

Well...I D/Led cgywin and started reading up on how to use it....sheesh! Guess I'll look for putty and see if that's any easier.

Heres my problem.....I don't know squat about 'putty'. I read the thread on how to enter the other freqs into cgMiner (I have 4.6.1 after the updates). I am clueless. Didn't get how to get into the program...nothing.     I don't know code, Linux, etc. Strictly a Windows guy, or old DOS4.x (yup...I'm old). Heck...actually had a machine with DOS2.something. I was pretty good at DOS 5, Linux baffles me!!

It has been suggested that the voltage setting under the Miner Configuration -> Advanced Settings tab that is in the new S3+ firmware is a left over from the S4 firmware and is of no effect to the S3+, however this is not the case. While trying to figure out the effect the setting had, I changed one of my slightly OC'ed S3's voltage setting to 0850 and left it there for as it seemed to slightly improve the speed it was hashing at. This unit (like the rest of my S3's) was powered by a 550W server PSU, and having left the unit to run for weeks, the PSU started restarting every so often, which none of the others ever did. I finally realised that the PSU was dead and the only difference in settings was the voltage, which confirmed to me that the setting surely has an effect on the S3+, thus this post.

I looked up the datasheet for the BM1382 chip that is used in the S3+ and found 2 sections that helped me work out what caused the fauilre of my PSU (and also led me to properly use the voltage setting to properly overclock an S3+).

1. The typical hash rate and power table



2. The input timing for the chip



The initial table has voltage settings and hash rates at each voltage, while the second table has the hash rates and frequencies to achieve them. Putting these together, I came up with the following.



I have added an extra row for each voltage setting of 0.75v and 0.80v as I found that with the two units I overclocked they had a higher HW error % at the frequencies in the datasheet. When I upped the frequency a notch, the HW error % reduced to acceptable levels. It goes without saying that you may need to add the added frequencies as they are not in the shipped firmware, here's alink to how you can add them: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8370071

Also worthy of note is that setting a chip voltage to 0.85 results in a (datasheet / theoretical) wattage draw for the S3 (32 chips) of 544 watts. Remember the server PSU that I was using on the over-volted S3 that I mentioned earlier was rated at 550 watts ..... no wonder it gave up its ghost! So ensure you have an adequate PSU powering your S3 before you begin. Addidtionally, it may be worth noting that a fully populated 6 pin PCI-e connector will carry a maximum of 24 Amps @ 12V = 288 Watts (though I normally assume they can only carry 22.5 Amps @ 12V = 270 Watts), so you may need to power your S3 with all 4 pins rather than just 2.

Finally, here's an image of one of the OC'ed units. The HW error % is a bit high on this, but the unit has hashed at lower rates for longer runs, and also higher hash rates! EDIT: The lower part of the image is the poolside registered rate(s) after OC'ing.



EDIT: It pains me to have to admit that the same voltage OC'ing will apply to the bitmain variants that have the BM1382 chips, e.g the S2 and S4; the reason it pains me is I do not have one!

EDIT 2: I thought I'd also post this to compare with my earlier OC'ing of my batch 6 S3 in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220 (also in my signature).

When I ran the test in August 2014 at freq 262.5 with the old firmware, I achieved an average hash-speed over a day of 529 Gh/s with 200 errors (0.00187113284%). Having set the voltage to 0750 in the newer firmware, I have a hash-speed 528.53 and a HW error rate of only 46 HW errors (0.0004%).

So again, not only does the voltage setting aid in OC'ing, it certainly does help with running efficiently!



EDIT: 6th Dec 2014

I had to post this. An update for the 262.5 freq @ 0.75 volts (0750 setting) after running for 2 days. There are only 96 92 HW errors and the % is still the same! The consistency you get from setting the voltage correctly is astoundingly repeatable / maintainable given what we've come to expect of ASIC rigs.

Yep, that is the syntax, 0.75v would be 0750
The default setting for the latter firmware, I believe, was 0000 i.e auto voltage but the base voltage prior to cgminer 4.6.1 was (again I believe) 0725

hello
my question what the correct syntax the voltage settings

 0.75 v = 0750 ?  on s3+ web interface ?

and what the default voltage 0.72 ?

sorry my lame question ?

thanx