Topic: Safe guard your seed phrase. (Read 200 times)

You should know that it's not a good practice to store your seed phrase electronically, Gmail could be hacked. Also, it's a dumb idea to try to rearrange the seed because you may forget the arrangement and lose your funds. More also, it a dumber idea to try to translate the seed phrase to your local language because some word has more than one meaning. For instance, let's assume you used Igbo language and you translated one of the seed "heart" to "obi", but "obi" also means "hut" and when the time comes to translate it back to English, this will be a problem.

So try not to make your seed phrase too complex, just write it on a piece of paper and keep it somewhere very safe.

So if we dey talk about how to keep your seed phrase safe, I go say make you no save am on your phone or any device wey fit get malware. Malware fit be virus or program wey hackers dey use to steal information or control your device. So if you save your seed phrase for device wey get malware, hackers fit take your crypto.
Another thing I go advise be to use cold storage, also known as hardware wallet. This be special kind of device wey you fit buy wey you fit keep your seed phrase and private keys off-line. This way, even if hacker try to attack your device or network, them no fit get access to your crypto. For this kind wallet, you no dey connect an to the internet, so na extra layer of security. So na something to think about before you buy. Overall, seed phrase security dey very important and na good thing to keep am safe.

As a sound person wey come into the crypto industry with the intention of investing into Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, the first thing wey surpose enter your mind na where you go keep am, and the second thing na how safe e go be for that place wey you wan keep am, so for the matter of secret phase, even though say some people brain na machine, to store am for brain na very wrong idea, because a pen and paper is longer than any memory in this life we found ourselves, so writing it down and keeping it in a very safe place is the best option, because once you miss one word inside or letters, just forget that ur money, because e don go like that, just because of carelessness, so it's best we save our secret phase in writing and store it in a private and safe place.

It will be hard for human brain to arrange it easily but there is a tool called btcrecover tool that can either help rearrange the words back to the right arrangement or even help to recover some few words missing. You can read this thread to learn how it works.

Also the idea of rearranging the words in another manner simply means that you have to trust your own brain to keep the arrangement which is a bad habit because you can easily forget it

I think you are kind of misunderstanding what "Sam lucky" said when he suggested about rearranging a wallet seed phrase before storing it on either a paper, Gmail or a hardware device. Because when you rearrange a wallet seedphrase either in an ascending, descending or in a diagonal order, it makes it very difficult for third parties to be able to know it's exact format, so as to enable them easily have access to your funds, except you who did the rearrangement. Hence, it very important people don't type the caption "Bitcoin Wallet Seedphrase" or any crypto related words which will make people know that 12 words becomes to a wallet seedphrase, for security purposes.

If you save your seed phrase for your phone or for internet, you never secure your seed phrase be that, e still dey public, anybody fit get access to am, so e mean say if you leave your seed phrase for your phone or internet, no dey surprise say you go just open your wallet one day, you no go meet any bitcoin for d wallet again, person wey don get access to your seed phrase go don move am commot. If you wan secure your seed phrase, make sure say na where internet connection no dey na where you go keep am be that, and make sure say na multiple places na him u go write am put incase if one lost, you go get back up.

In places were earthquakes happens it's not always good to keep your seed phrase there even though you keep it in a water proof or a fire proof case. Ones an earthquake happen you will no longer find them again because the whole building will be destroyed to the ground. However it's better you secure your seed phrase than not to care about it, generally it's not wise to keep a seed phrase in one particular location, we can keep them in different places/areas between some distance that we would be able to reach if we need to. Internet would have been a better place to keep a seed phrase but since there is always scammers that are looking for places they will perform theft that's the reason why it's no longer advised to keep seed phrases on phone/internet.

Op you are very correct concerning your understanding about this seed phrase matter, if you loss am while your coins dey inside the wallet, that one don go be that so na to just forget about am.

Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens

Yea I was not knowledge that there are tools that can be used to rearrange it just like them say person wey get the right tool go fit fish am out. So I don also learn something. Thats why dem say learning never end.

It is not advice able to miss arrange it at all it must be in the same oder as of when it was given to you any miss arrangements your crypto fund account has gone so writing it down still remains the best option.

Seed phrase na very serious matter wey be say we no supposed carry play at all because e no dey like other things wey be say you go fit say make you come dey go do recover abi na forget password once e b say diswan don go e don go and no way to get am back so if money dey fat wallet you no go fit recover am back and you go lose everything. E dey very important say make we understand dis tin like dis so dat we go dey know how we wan dey take protect our wallet well well so dat we no go end up say we dey loose money and other tinz.

To dey write am for paper dey okay o but you sure say you fit protect that paper well wey be say anytime wey you need am you go fit find am because e dey dat important but if you get money you fit go do dat metallic inscription of your phrases so they you fit protect am well especially if you dey use cold storage.

My brother you do well to bring the topic here because the importance of safeguarding your seed phrase is of utmost importance and anybodi wey understand how important the issue be go understand say the seed phrase na something wey you as a crypto user no supposed joke with and choice to keep am well na something many people for this crypto space dey fail to do. keeping your seed offline na the best thing to do because e go dey safe from any possible hack.

Seed phrase na one important thing we sopos no carry play. Because Naim be the most important thing for this cryptocurrency journey if you no get keep am well, you go loss access to all your funds. E get one of my friend wey lost $500 Worth of bitcoin for him trust wallet because him misplace him wallet see phrase. And uptill date e never fit get access to am. and the cause of this kind thing na absent minded or reluctancy. I go do am later and that later go turn to forever. Na when you don get issues with your fund or you don loss access to you phone wey you go dey find way to retrieve am.
Make we dey make sure say before we start to dey use any wallet wey newly open especially non custodial wallet make we first of all keep the see phrase in other not to make mistake.

because of the issue of lack of privacy in the as it relates to the use of our device, it's not even advisable to save your seed phrase in your phone and that include your notepad in your phone. The thing is that most of us are very careless with our security, some of us, all the people in our house knows the password to our phone and some will freely give their ATM to anybody to make withdrawal and their ATM pin has become a public property and do when de open a new wallet, their seed phrase goes through that same process.

Write your seed phrase out, duplicate the copies and keep them safe in at least three different location so in case of an accident or unplanned event, you can still use the ones in other location to access your wallet.

If 12 word seed phrase is not in an order, it will not take more than some minutes to some hours a bruth forcing tool can be used to rearrange it depending on your hardware computational power.

If you want alternative like the use of flash drive, you can make use of airgapped computer to encrypt the flash drives.

If you are in a place that you know is prone to environmental hazard, having a far location backup would be better. During environmental hazard like flooding, earthquake, the destruction can make it impossible for you to access your seed phrase in that location. The seed phrase might be lost forever, even if you laminate it or not.

Watin the op dey talk really dey right as e be say internet self no dey 100% secured, many of us get friends way dey always make us of our phones and based on say them be our friends we no go fit tell them no anytime way dem won use am.
Although, we no go fit tell if someone dey try scam us or not until we done catch them red handed or say them done already scam us, so instead of us to wait until then, we better secure our seed phrase well so that nothing to happen to our Bitcoin wallet.
Email nah another bad place too bot paper self, thr only way wen one fit try secure em wallet nah if em no keep am for place when water, rat, oil, or somebody go see am, many of us get different places way we dey hide or money, like some people get bank and some get saving box.

I reason am say person way dey keep money for saving box dey always dey very careful for the kind of place way em dey keep the box so that somebody no go touch am.
I visit my friend house one day and I see if safe, that safe them build am join the house and nah rod them use build the safe, that kind of person, you no go fit tell me say thief go fit by pass everybody for the compound and enter inside the house break the building then collect the safe when people no go know watin fey happened.
So, I dey try talk say, this guiding of seed phrase matter really depends on the person way hold am, some people go fit keep am safe and some people no go just fit

I still remember say person wey dey close to me lost him paper were him write down those seed phrase even as I tell am to carry that tin put inside were him document dey so that him go lose am, but late on him call me say him no fit access the wallet after him phone get small problems. The issues wey dey here be say, even though we dey write am for paper make we try use better diary or juter take write am keep am for better place so that e go dey safe for us. One thing wey our pipo dey always do be say dem dey take tins too common bicus dem tink say dem fit maneuver am pass without knowing even the oyibo way say make write am down no be mumu for one day. Na too much sabi dey do most of us here naim make many of us dey get issues las las, if u follow instruction as dem take guide us here we no fit get any challenge for we account and wallet entirely.


Not courageable you stands at a very high risk to lose complete access to your funds, when you don't remember the orderliness.
So it's important to only write them according to how it was generated to you than splitting yourself, you can go hide it any place you like at your home but do not alter it.

The paper backup is not that safe too, because if the paper is affected by water and a word or 2 is missing, you are likely to also lose it. I think the paper written pass phrase should also be laminated and kept in a file to avoid being affected by water or moisture. Just like most documents were destroyed during the flood. Or it is also important to also have another alternative backup like a hard-disk drive and also. Back up in Gmail. By translating it to another language. Incase gmail is hacked they would not know the meaning of those words. Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly. For example
1. Man.                       1. wealth         
2. Success.                2. Quote
3. Behavior.                3. Whale
4. Delight.                   4. Diet
5. Grace.       VS.        5. Danger
6. Danger                    6. Grace
7. Diet.                         7. Delight
8. Whale.                     8. Behavior
9. Quote.                     9. Success
10.wealth                  10. Man

Though i know it's 12 seed pass phrase but by so doing of moderating your pass phrase some times can make it hard for Hackers to know your pass phrase this is my own mathematical rearrangement you can also do your own .

Not also advisable to store seed phrase iny phone and other online devices because of online attacks. An online device can be infected with malware.

Paper backup is better.

For offline security, extending the seed phrase with passphrase will generate different keys and addresses. But if the passphrase backup is lost, just like the seed phrase backup, the coin is no more accessible but lost. Advisable to backup both the seed phrase and passphrase differently in different locations.

The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.