You can go to the business center and re-create the phrase by adding a bigger font or colour, just beautify it and use it to decorate your sitting room or elsewhere in your home, just bbthe same way you hang your wedding pictures or any of your favourite frame , which makes it more safe.
WTF!!! Abeg no do this oh, how you go even carry your seed phrase go cyber cafe, e just mean say you wan lose your bitcoins. Why do you need a bigger font, what for, and tell me you are joking when you suggest that one should hang their seed phrase on their wall, what are you talking about bro. The only thing wey you need na pen and paper, write your seed phrase down and keep am well; if you wan secure am pass like that, use stainless steel backup. 
Topic: Safe guard your seed phrase. - page 2. (Read 561 times)
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
While we are discussing about privacy and safety wise with our wallets containing our bitcoins, I am personally discouraged on noting how you creates wallet address when you are not set to have your funds in it.
Believe me or not, we are more conscious with our wallets only when there is a value of funds in it because keep securing an empty wallet can be tiring at times so then, it is usually better to create your wallet at when you are ready to have it funded because the value of funds in it would make you extremely be careful with your seed phrase and maintain a good privacy just to keep your funds secured.
So if I were you, I will create a new wallet address and generates a new phrase to afresh a more security after then you created one when you where not set to find it.
Clearly, privacies to seed phrases with your wallets is an almost concerned which should not be taken for granted.
As a serious person that value your Bitcoin wallet and seed phrase you need to properly secured your seed phrase, just as you protect your credentials, like your Certificates, NIN,BVN or even Account numbers,one should be serious and see the need of properly saving our seedphrase i don't think there is anybody in the country that will be asked to provide any of these information BVN, NIN e.t.c, that will not be able to that ,thee same way you save your phrase.
You can go to the business center and re-create the phrase by adding a bigger font or colour, just beautify it and use it to decorate your sitting room or elsewhere in your home, just bbthe same way you hang your wedding pictures or any of your favourite frame , which makes it more safe.
You can even laminate it and keep it inside your documents in your file.
At times our over protection make us loose some of our valueables,in these way , you will not boarder yourself .
You can go to the business center and re-create the phrase by adding a bigger font or colour, just beautify it and use it to decorate your sitting room or elsewhere in your home, just bbthe same way you hang your wedding pictures or any of your favourite frame , which makes it more safe.
You can even laminate it and keep it inside your documents in your file.
At times our over protection make us loose some of our valueables,in these way , you will not boarder yourself .
Securing your seed phrase in a secured location is the most important aspect of cryptocurrency, your coins is your asset and your wallet is the access to your coins, it is only your private keys that makes you the owner of the coins. When you lose seed phrase and your password, that means that you have lost the access to your coins forever, if it is stolen that means that you have transferred the ownership of your coins because there is no way that you can access it again. There is no KYC verification done when creating a wallet so it is only the seed phrase and password that gives you ownership of your coins. Don't save your private keys online, make copies and hide it offline in different secured locations.
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
I always tell people that screenshot your seed phrase isn't safe cause anything can still happen, it's always best to write to down somewhere or simply save it in your email for quick recovery
Screenshoting it can also expose you to getting hacked, especially if you are constantly giving out your phone to other people
Personally I don't like this seed phrase of a thing cause I feel it might cause some issues if I get it mixed up
I always prefer Gmail verifications if that option is available, I find it easy to access my wallets with this
Or it is also important to also have another alternative backup like a hard-disk drive and also. Back up in Gmail. By translating it to another language. Incase gmail is hacked they would not know the meaning of those words. Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly.
You should know that it's not a good practice to store your seed phrase electronically, Gmail could be hacked. Also, it's a dumb idea to try to rearrange the seed because you may forget the arrangement and lose your funds. More also, it a dumber idea to try to translate the seed phrase to your local language because some word has more than one meaning. For instance, let's assume you used Igbo language and you translated one of the seed "heart" to "obi", but "obi" also means "hut" and when the time comes to translate it back to English, this will be a problem.
So try not to make your seed phrase too complex, just write it on a piece of paper and keep it somewhere very safe.
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
So if we dey talk about how to keep your seed phrase safe, I go say make you no save am on your phone or any device wey fit get malware. Malware fit be virus or program wey hackers dey use to steal information or control your device. So if you save your seed phrase for device wey get malware, hackers fit take your crypto.
Another thing I go advise be to use cold storage, also known as hardware wallet. This be special kind of device wey you fit buy wey you fit keep your seed phrase and private keys off-line. This way, even if hacker try to attack your device or network, them no fit get access to your crypto. For this kind wallet, you no dey connect an to the internet, so na extra layer of security. So na something to think about before you buy. Overall, seed phrase security dey very important and na good thing to keep am safe.
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
As a sound person wey come into the crypto industry with the intention of investing into Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, the first thing wey surpose enter your mind na where you go keep am, and the second thing na how safe e go be for that place wey you wan keep am, so for the matter of secret phase, even though say some people brain na machine, to store am for brain na very wrong idea, because a pen and paper is longer than any memory in this life we found ourselves, so writing it down and keeping it in a very safe place is the best option, because once you miss one word inside or letters, just forget that ur money, because e don go like that, just because of carelessness, so it's best we save our secret phase in writing and store it in a private and safe place.
I think you are kind of misunderstanding what "Sam lucky" said when he suggested about rearranging a wallet seed phrase before storing it on either a paper, Gmail or a hardware device. Because when you rearrange a wallet seedphrase either in an ascending, descending or in a diagonal order, it makes it very difficult for third parties to be able to know it's exact format, so as to enable them easily have access to your funds, except you who did the rearrangement. Hence, it very important people don't type the caption "Bitcoin Wallet Seedphrase" or any crypto related words which will make people know that 12 words becomes to a wallet seedphrase, for security purposes.
It will be hard for human brain to arrange it easily but there is a tool called btcrecover tool that can either help rearrange the words back to the right arrangement or even help to recover some few words missing. You can read this thread to learn how it works.
Also the idea of rearranging the words in another manner simply means that you have to trust your own brain to keep the arrangement which is a bad habit because you can easily forget it
Paper backup is better.
Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly.Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
If you save your seed phrase for your phone or for internet, you never secure your seed phrase be that, e still dey public, anybody fit get access to am, so e mean say if you leave your seed phrase for your phone or internet, no dey surprise say you go just open your wallet one day, you no go meet any bitcoin for d wallet again, person wey don get access to your seed phrase go don move am commot. If you wan secure your seed phrase, make sure say na where internet connection no dey na where you go keep am be that, and make sure say na multiple places na him u go write am put incase if one lost, you go get back up. 
Op you are very correct concerning your understanding about this seed phrase matter, if you loss am while your coins dey inside the wallet, that one don go be that so na to just forget about am.
Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens
In places were earthquakes happens it's not always good to keep your seed phrase there even though you keep it in a water proof or a fire proof case. Ones an earthquake happen you will no longer find them again because the whole building will be destroyed to the ground. However it's better you secure your seed phrase than not to care about it, generally it's not wise to keep a seed phrase in one particular location, we can keep them in different places/areas between some distance that we would be able to reach if we need to. Internet would have been a better place to keep a seed phrase but since there is always scammers that are looking for places they will perform theft that's the reason why it's no longer advised to keep seed phrases on phone/internet. Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens
Op you are very correct concerning your understanding about this seed phrase matter, if you loss am while your coins dey inside the wallet, that one don go be that so na to just forget about am.
Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens
Keeping your seed phrase secure is something we must consider before even thinking of keeping our asset inside the wallet. There are several ways we can safe guard our seed phrase but using an online means of storage is not advisable. You can try writing it down and store it multiple safe location, or just buy a water proof/ fire proof safe for cases of emergency. So you'll not be handicapped should in case any of such happens
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It is not advice able to miss arrange it at all it must be in the same oder as of when it was given to you any miss arrangements your crypto fund account has gone so writing it down still remains the best option.Paper backup is better.
The paper backup is not that safe too, because if the paper is affected by water and a word or 2 is missing, you are likely to also lose it. I think the paper written pass phrase should also be laminated and kept in a file to avoid being affected by water or moisture. Just like most documents were destroyed during the flood. Or it is also important to also have another alternative backup like a hard-disk drive and also. Back up in Gmail. By translating it to another language. Incase gmail is hacked they would not know the meaning of those words. Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly. For example1. Man. 1. wealth
2. Success. 2. Quote
3. Behavior. 3. Whale
4. Delight. 4. Diet
5. Grace. VS. 5. Danger
6. Danger 6. Grace
7. Diet. 7. Delight
8. Whale. 8. Behavior
9. Quote. 9. Success
10.wealth 10. Man
Though i know it's 12 seed pass phrase but by so doing of moderating your pass phrase some times can make it hard for Hackers to know your pass phrase this is my own mathematical rearrangement you can also do your own .
Seed phrase na very serious matter wey be say we no supposed carry play at all because e no dey like other things wey be say you go fit say make you come dey go do recover abi na forget password once e b say diswan don go e don go and no way to get am back so if money dey fat wallet you no go fit recover am back and you go lose everything. E dey very important say make we understand dis tin like dis so dat we go dey know how we wan dey take protect our wallet well well so dat we no go end up say we dey loose money and other tinz.
To dey write am for paper dey okay o but you sure say you fit protect that paper well wey be say anytime wey you need am you go fit find am because e dey dat important but if you get money you fit go do dat metallic inscription of your phrases so they you fit protect am well especially if you dey use cold storage.
To dey write am for paper dey okay o but you sure say you fit protect that paper well wey be say anytime wey you need am you go fit find am because e dey dat important but if you get money you fit go do dat metallic inscription of your phrases so they you fit protect am well especially if you dey use cold storage.
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
My brother you do well to bring the topic here because the importance of safeguarding your seed phrase is of utmost importance and anybodi wey understand how important the issue be go understand say the seed phrase na something wey you as a crypto user no supposed joke with and choice to keep am well na something many people for this crypto space dey fail to do. keeping your seed offline na the best thing to do because e go dey safe from any possible hack. But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
Seed phrase na one important thing we sopos no carry play. Because Naim be the most important thing for this cryptocurrency journey if you no get keep am well, you go loss access to all your funds. E get one of my friend wey lost $500 Worth of bitcoin for him trust wallet because him misplace him wallet see phrase. And uptill date e never fit get access to am. and the cause of this kind thing na absent minded or reluctancy. I go do am later and that later go turn to forever. Na when you don get issues with your fund or you don loss access to you phone wey you go dey find way to retrieve am.
Make we dey make sure say before we start to dey use any wallet wey newly open especially non custodial wallet make we first of all keep the see phrase in other not to make mistake.
Make we dey make sure say before we start to dey use any wallet wey newly open especially non custodial wallet make we first of all keep the see phrase in other not to make mistake.
The first day when I join this forum, I create electrum wallet but I never put Bitcoin inside because I never gather money and some kind Bitcoin knowledge.
But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
because of the issue of lack of privacy in the as it relates to the use of our device, it's not even advisable to save your seed phrase in your phone and that include your notepad in your phone. The thing is that most of us are very careless with our security, some of us, all the people in our house knows the password to our phone and some will freely give their ATM to anybody to make withdrawal and their ATM pin has become a public property and do when de open a new wallet, their seed phrase goes through that same process.But this seed phrase matter, eating I understand about am be say if e lose no way to take recover am back, and yesterday I still see one topic, way talk about seed phrase. by PrivacyG
And this seed phrase are very important to us as a crypto user seed phrases are words that can safe guard ur account
we human being we dey forget things well well, so if we won create electrum wallet them go give us some words and those words nai be our keys to reopen the wallet just Incase our phone lose or get one or two issues.
Some people dey share their phones with their friends, so it is better not to save this ur seed phrase in ur mobile phones or even ur google account because hackers fit get access to this ur seed phrases anytime them yet get small opportunity.
but once you collect am carry pen and paper write am down keep, make ur phone loss nothing concern you, your account still dey for you but be careful where you keep am when you done write am down.
Write your seed phrase out, duplicate the copies and keep them safe in at least three different location so in case of an accident or unplanned event, you can still use the ones in other location to access your wallet.
Paper backup is better.
The paper backup is not that safe too, because if the paper is affected by water and a word or 2 is missing, you are likely to also lose it. I think the paper written pass phrase should also be laminated and kept in a file to avoid being affected by water or moisture. Just like most documents were destroyed during the flood. Or it is also important to also have another alternative backup like a hard-disk drive and also. Back up in Gmail. By translating it to another language. Incase gmail is hacked they would not know the meaning of those words. Or you can rearrange it in your Gmail maybe turning it upsidedown where no 10 becomes no 1 and no 9 becomes no 2 continuesly. For example1. Man. 1. wealth
2. Success. 2. Quote
3. Behavior. 3. Whale
4. Delight. 4. Diet
5. Grace. VS. 5. Danger
6. Danger 6. Grace
7. Diet. 7. Delight
8. Whale. 8. Behavior
9. Quote. 9. Success
10.wealth 10. Man
Though i know it's 12 seed pass phrase but by so doing of moderating your pass phrase some times can make it hard for Hackers to know your pass phrase this is my own mathematical rearrangement you can also do your own .
If 12 word seed phrase is not in an order, it will not take more than some minutes to some hours a bruth forcing tool can be used to rearrange it depending on your hardware computational power.
If you want alternative like the use of flash drive, you can make use of airgapped computer to encrypt the flash drives.
If you are in a place that you know is prone to environmental hazard, having a far location backup would be better. During environmental hazard like flooding, earthquake, the destruction can make it impossible for you to access your seed phrase in that location. The seed phrase might be lost forever, even if you laminate it or not.
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