San Francisco Metro System Hacked with Ransomware [Paid $70,000 in Bitcoin] - page 2.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 08:10:49 AM

Very effective anti-virus packages are available for as little as $10 (purchased one just last month from Amazon). Yet, the San Francisco Metro decided that they are too expensive. I guess now they are too happy to pay 7,000x that amount.

no amount of antivirus protection can protect against all the attacks and when it comes to a system with many people accessing it, the problem becomes bigger. because when you are the only user of a computer you can always be careful about what you do but when multiple people have access only one person is enough to be targeted for the infection it can be an email or other methods the hackers use to infect the whole system through an idiotic employee.

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Very effective anti-virus packages are available for as little as $10 (purchased one just last month from Amazon). Yet, the San Francisco Metro decided that they are too expensive. I guess now they are too happy to pay 7,000x that amount.

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Quote from: The_Dark_Knight on December 13, 2016, 07:50:48 PM

Quote from: Xester on December 10, 2016, 10:11:50 PM

This is not a bad thing to bitcoin but to the users who use it in illicit activities. With the events that had happened the government around the globe might end up regulating the use of bitcoin, creating poilicies and other laws including agencies to monitor how online currencies including cryptocurrencies moves. Soon bitcoin will be under the eyes of the government, taxable and monitored.

Currently except for a worldwide ban there is not much governments of the world can do to stop bitcoin, in fact a ban on bitcoin may even help adoption grow like what happened to drugs.

It's not like any ban on bitcoin is technically enforceable, they can hurt exchanges though.

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Quote from: Xester on December 10, 2016, 10:11:50 PM

This is not a bad thing to bitcoin but to the users who use it in illicit activities. With the events that had happened the government around the globe might end up regulating the use of bitcoin, creating poilicies and other laws including agencies to monitor how online currencies including cryptocurrencies moves. Soon bitcoin will be under the eyes of the government, taxable and monitored.

Currently except for a worldwide ban there is not much governments of the world can do to stop bitcoin, in fact a ban on bitcoin may even help adoption grow like what happened to drugs.

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Quote from: SmartIphone on December 13, 2016, 06:28:01 PM

Quote from: davis196 on December 10, 2016, 01:54:16 AM

Quote from: SmartIphone on November 28, 2016, 09:53:54 AM

Recently the San Francisco Metro System got Hacked with Ransomware resulting in free rides.

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It is yet not clear exactly who was responsible for the attack (besides a pseudonym "Andy Saolis"), but according to local media reports, the agency's computers were being held by ransomware until the MUNI paid the equivalent of more than $73,000 in Bitcoin.

What do you think guys?
Isn't it bad for the bitcoin to be known as a bad thing in our lives?
*If it was posted before move to the correct board.

This is good and bad for bitcoin.

It`s bad becasue hackers use it and it`s good for the same reason. Grin

Just kidding.

By the way,what exactly is a ransomware?Malware that asks for ransome?

Well the bad thing has more effect rather than the good thing because people will have in their mind the dirty bitcoin not the good bitcoin.
What ransomware is? It is a software (malware/virus/etc..) which encrypts your all data in PC and asks you to pay the hacker in bitcoin in order to get the decryption key and get back your files!

oh i think a lot of cases like this happened out there
make bitcoin popular as evil currency to make a ransomware transaction
this is just another bitcoin abuse , it's normal i think
as in paypal there is a feature called dispute and chargeback and they frequently misuse it too for scam attempts.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 10, 2016, 01:54:16 AM

Quote from: SmartIphone on November 28, 2016, 09:53:54 AM

Recently the San Francisco Metro System got Hacked with Ransomware resulting in free rides.

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It is yet not clear exactly who was responsible for the attack (besides a pseudonym "Andy Saolis"), but according to local media reports, the agency's computers were being held by ransomware until the MUNI paid the equivalent of more than $73,000 in Bitcoin.

What do you think guys?
Isn't it bad for the bitcoin to be known as a bad thing in our lives?
*If it was posted before move to the correct board.

This is good and bad for bitcoin.

It`s bad becasue hackers use it and it`s good for the same reason. Grin

Just kidding.

By the way,what exactly is a ransomware?Malware that asks for ransome?

Well the bad thing has more effect rather than the good thing because people will have in their mind the dirty bitcoin not the good bitcoin.
What ransomware is? It is a software (malware/virus/etc..) which encrypts your all data in PC and asks you to pay the hacker in bitcoin in order to get the decryption key and get back your files!

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I'm surprised that they actually paid the ransom. This exemplifies the incompetence of the officials in maintaining and operating critical infrastructure. The operators of the system should have paid it out of their own private pockets and then being kicked out of public service for lifetime.

Of course it can be bad for the public perception of Bitcoin, because a lot of people are unable to differentiate and unwilling to blame themselves for gross negligence. Instead of blaming the hackers and the officials, dumb journalists will quickly point to Bitcoin, because it is another new thing they don't understand.

ya.ya.yo!

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This is not a bad thing to bitcoin but to the users who use it in illicit activities. With the events that had happened the government around the globe might end up regulating the use of bitcoin, creating poilicies and other laws including agencies to monitor how online currencies including cryptocurrencies moves. Soon bitcoin will be under the eyes of the government, taxable and monitored.

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Why do some people still do not see that this is just one of the many use cases of Bitcoin? Moving value easily across borders without the use banks is the main contribution of the technology. Why not embrace it and accept that bad things do happen with or without Bitcoin.

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No idea how you wouldn't notice that everything you need is being encrypted as you go but I guess it hasn't ever happened to me. 70k. Wow. I guess they had them by the proverbial balls eh?

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Quote from: Dmitry.Vastov on December 10, 2016, 09:00:12 PM

For sure they are going to blame bitcoin. This things really makes bitcoin so bad. But bitcoin has nothing to do with this mess. This is just a bridge to tranfer funds or the ransom. Its the fault of the San Francisco Metro System in the first place. If they have a better security., this is not going to happen.

Yeah, it's like blaming the ransom cash that is demanded when a kidnapper kidnaps a victim. It's not the cash's fault. No one ever blames the ransom money when a kidnapping crime occurs.

It's as if Bitcoin is the only guilty party involved in the crime and the actual criminal(s) are overlooked and not even given a second thought.

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For sure they are going to blame bitcoin. This things really makes bitcoin so bad. But bitcoin has nothing to do with this mess. This is just a bridge to tranfer funds or the ransom. Its the fault of the San Francisco Metro System in the first place. If they have a better security., this is not going to happen.

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Quote from: Yogafan00000 on November 28, 2016, 10:12:22 AM

It's funny that it's hackers who are forcing mainstream to adopt crypto at virtual gunpoint.

And by that, they dont need to take the ransom money personally. This is how smart the people are today. This is the real problem of bitcoin. It can be use for any crimes. But it is not the fault of bitcoin. It is the fault of San Francisco Metro System because they did not secure their files.

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Quote from: SmartIphone on November 28, 2016, 09:53:54 AM

Recently the San Francisco Metro System got Hacked with Ransomware resulting in free rides.

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It is yet not clear exactly who was responsible for the attack (besides a pseudonym "Andy Saolis"), but according to local media reports, the agency's computers were being held by ransomware until the MUNI paid the equivalent of more than $73,000 in Bitcoin.

What do you think guys?
Isn't it bad for the bitcoin to be known as a bad thing in our lives?
*If it was posted before move to the correct board.

it is a big amount of money to be paid for data. but probably the data contains more important things than $73,000.

yeah, it is bad for bitcoin to be known as a bad things. that makes our family and people around think that we are criminals because we use bitcoin.

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Things like these have been happening over, and over, and over again. The conclusion we can take from all these ransom cases is that this goes way beyond Bitcoin, it's about people's mentality who still prefer to be sorry than safe. Companies and governments see tech employees as "uneeded" or "only fit for emergencies" and simply don't hire them. When problems arise, they start calling these people like they would call 911 if somebody was dying...

They didn't invest on their security and probably didn't even have backups of important files...

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Quote from: Kprawn on November 28, 2016, 02:10:07 PM

It is bad for Bitcoin. We had visitors last week, and the husband did not know that I am a Bitcoin enthusiast. He started to tell me that he lost

all his Holiday videos and pics, due to some virus that blocked his files and then they wanted.. "something called Bitcoin" to unlock his files. I

sat their red faces, because he blamed this "Bitcoin" technology for what happened to him. I explained to him what Bitcoin was, and that the

technology was not to be blamed for the hack, but he did not want to hear anything about Bitcoin, because he blamed it for his loss. Angry

Even bitcoin get the famous because the hacker information lost, we can see how the fiat system are weeks against hackers, for one side i do see bitcoin as revolutionary currencie, but for other side now hackers can get their money without be traced, this makes bitcoin a big problem, but those big companies should think into a way to protect their system, improve the security, instead of being paying to hackers, but they dont learn security its the main problem, and where they have to invest.

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Quote from: Lauda on November 28, 2016, 02:12:27 PM

This isn't really a problem with Bitcoin, and should not make Bitcoin look bad. Bitcoin is primarily used in these because there are automated set of tools that help you create malware (e.g. ransomware) and they just take a % cut of the Bitcoin gathered this way. If the attackers were after better anonymity and not script-kiddies, they would not be asking for Bitcoin.

Here is an example of such a website called Tox. However, this website was on sale the last time I encountered it. I'm sure that there are plenty more out there.

Quote from: Kprawn on November 28, 2016, 02:10:07 PM

I sat their red faces, because he blamed this "Bitcoin" technology for what happened to him.

A ransomware attack is ridiculously easy to mitigate with a backup (in comparison to other advanced malware). You just need to wipe everything and restore via a backup. If you don't have a backup, then the only one that should be blamed is yourself.

Normal backup is not good enough. You will have to do full backups daily and weekly and monthly and store them offline. If you do

incremental backups, and the Malware is replicated, then all your preceding copies will be infected. This way, you can go back to previous

copies, until you find a copy that were not infected. Some people just overwrite their previous backups and then include the Malware in all

subsequent copies. { Then they cannot go back to previous "clean" backups to restore }

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Quote from: davis196 on December 10, 2016, 01:54:16 AM

Quote from: SmartIphone on November 28, 2016, 09:53:54 AM

Recently the San Francisco Metro System got Hacked with Ransomware resulting in free rides.

Quote

It is yet not clear exactly who was responsible for the attack (besides a pseudonym "Andy Saolis"), but according to local media reports, the agency's computers were being held by ransomware until the MUNI paid the equivalent of more than $73,000 in Bitcoin.

What do you think guys?
Isn't it bad for the bitcoin to be known as a bad thing in our lives?
*If it was posted before move to the correct board.

This is good and bad for bitcoin.

It`s bad becasue hackers use it and it`s good for the same reason. Grin

Just kidding.

By the way,what exactly is a ransomware?Malware that asks for ransome?

Ransomware is a software that encrypts your hard drive and every other attached storage device.
In order to get access to your data again, the software asks you to pay a certain amount (usually in bitcoin).
After that you get a key that decrypts your drives again.
At least that is what the software tells you. If you really get it, I would doubt that.

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BTC will drop

Sorry for their loss Sad

In fact my computer have hacked for bitcoin ransom before, while we decided not to pay it and finally found a way to overcome that.

These hacking-news is indeed having negative impacts on bitcoin's public image, especially those bitcoin haters who don't like us just because they are 'new' (they are older people who also hate Internet etc.). However for the only good side is that there will be some buy orders on BTC and it will rise in price...

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All I know is that I know nothing.

this is the only downside of bitcoin, the fact that its anonymity is allowing criminals to get away with things like this and use bitcoin as their filthy methods to extort people out of their money. and the worst part of it is what the media is going to do with news like this when they get their hands on it, they will show bitcoin as a criminal money and it hurts bitcoin's reputation a lot.

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