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Topic: Satoshi dumped Bitcoin right after Gavin announced he was going to the CIA. (Read 36950 times)

full member
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Satoshi is big joker
legendary
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All i simply want is my 10K back from Hal Finney, he stole them minutes after i bought them. He asked for my private key to check the transaction, since it was taking longer than normal, and i was newb and gave it to him (He didnt have to steal them)

bro, this thread is almost 4 years old. wtf are you doing?

and if you can prove hal stole from you, do so. i'm sure there are plenty of people who would be very interested in that.
newbie
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Gavin had just received the alert keys to the Bitcoin network. Right afterwards, he tells Satoshi that he is visiting the CIA. Satoshi leaves for good coincidentally.

This is quoted from the defunct Bruce Wagner Bitcoin podcast:

Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding


Based on this, do you think Gavin fully meets Satoshi's vision for Bitcoin?

Why GA was contacted by the CIA (In-Q Tel) for BTC at the time ? He wasn't the best expert for BTC.
Even if he was one of the referents of Bitcoin, why him?
If he was so important in the BTC universe, how could he be sidelined?

I really do not understand the link between Satoshi account "death" and GA met the CIA. SN have the power to kill BTC. BTC was already in the bad hands.

legendary
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Where the hell would he have dumped in 2010 and do you really think the creator of bitcoin itself is gonna throw it all away for what woulda been a few thousand dollars?

When the OP says "dumped Bitcoin", he means "no longer contributes to the project", not "sells all his coins"...
legendary
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Where the hell would he have dumped in 2010 and do you really think the creator of bitcoin itself is gonna throw it all away for what woulda been a few thousand dollars?
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"Be careful what you wish for. If Satoshi returns, you might find his decisions to be worse than Gavin's. I know I disagreed with him on some things."


Citation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1228616


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> And what am I paying for...to protect the status quo. I believe that
> there is more than enough help for ppl available. They just need to
> get off their butts and work.

Do we really need your amatuer political views?

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legendary
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I like this quote best:  |
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"Be careful what you wish for. If Satoshi returns, you might find his decisions to be worse than Gavin's. I know I disagreed with him on some things."


Citation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1228616
vip
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Also, it seems Satoshi had something for online wallets. Something Gavin isn't really excited about.

New users wouldn't really even need the Bitcoin software.  They could download a miner, create an account on mtgox or mybitcoin, enter their deposit address into the miner and point it at anyone's pool server.  When the miner says it found something, a while later a few coins show up in their account.

Their = Mark Karpelès and Tom Williams (respectively).
newbie
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If you believe the entire episode with Craig Wright is a huge FARCE, as I do, then there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that Satoshi is dead. Satoshi remains anonymous. Thank you for creating Bitcoin Satoshi.

BJ
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Bumping a 4 y old topic as an excuse of parroting fags reporting dead cringe shit in newly created reddit thread. Seriously, who gives a fuck about andresen's involement when everyone knows he had met with cia before btc became what its now yet nobody has cared to revoke his access to github repo for a long while Satoshi must be kleiman and deceased from an uncurable disease lying onto a lump of fecali and old stuff sprinkled by his urine why would a deadman care about someone he gave keys long before andresen made it out of his infancy as a core contrbutor
legendary
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Show middle finger to system and then destroy it!
Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?
I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.
Dear CIA! My Bitcoin address is 1Aiq9FYv12GQjM9LeBHoNq9c3FfFaA4GTA please send few bitcoins to poor hacker and terrorist living in third world country so I can purchase drugs and maybe some explosives with these bitcoins.

You probably know that the bitcoin address can be generated easily and it can be linked to other random addresses when making transaction. Hope this will help CIA to determine if the transaction is going to payment for weapons or I'm just bored and play with instawallet or some other mixing service.

Please also send me few pictures of naked Obama next to F-19 Aurora.
sr. member
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There is nothing in this world that isn't compromisable, this is just something you have to come to terms with. Bitcoin won't be around forever, but it's working great at the moment.
sr. member
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*ignores trolls*
I actually wasn't around the forums and stuff for several months and now I come back and I sincerely have no clue what the Bitcoin Foundation is Tongue is that a good enough sign? lol.  What do they do, donate bitcoins to orphans? Tongue
legendary
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rippleFanatic
Ding Dong Satoshi's dead!  (or preferably, enjoying well-earned hookers n blow - yay!)

Shouldn't be hard to tell.. How many of the first 1M coins have moved? And did any of them go to 1Dky? lol
legendary
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

I thought you were against having a single person, or small elitist group, representing and acting as an authority over Bitcoin and OUR money?    Cheesy

I think it would be somewhat detrimental for Satoshi to 'return' and influence Bitcoin.
The fact that it is completely and utterly irrelevant 'who created bitcoin' is a major psychological selling point, which his/her/their return - would potentially compromise.
(Due to, for example, the excessive ability to influence/veto/override decisions by taking advantage of fawning religious-like admiration from the likes of Atlas - though hopefully the community as a whole is smarter than that)

I often say things to the effect - that it wouldn't matter if Bitcoin was created by the CIA, Mossad, Al-Qaeda or Batman.

Ding Dong Satoshi's dead!  (or preferably, enjoying well-earned hookers n blow - yay!)
legendary
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My money; Our Bitcoin.
The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

I thought you were against having a single person, or small elitist group, representing and acting as an authority over Bitcoin and OUR money?    Cheesy
administrator
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

Be careful what you wish for. If Satoshi returns, you might find his decisions to be worse than Gavin's. I know I disagreed with him on some things.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Also, it seems Satoshi had something for online wallets. Something Gavin isn't really excited about.

New users wouldn't really even need the Bitcoin software.  They could download a miner, create an account on mtgox or mybitcoin, enter their deposit address into the miner and point it at anyone's pool server.  When the miner says it found something, a while later a few coins show up in their account.

That's pretty much what I do with PPCoin since I can't figure out the command-line client for spit.
legendary
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The idea of a few people "representing" millions of other people is bogus and just leads to bad outcomes.

Hee hee the old Democracy versus Republic debate. (Assuming by republic we mean voting for reps not on issues and by democracy we mean voting on actual issues, that is.)

-MarkM-
hero member
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Wat
Some of you are sincere morons.  So not only is every government everywhere and everyone in power out to get everyone else but the developers of bitcoin are out to get you too.  I bet big media is out to get you too (well okay, it is, lol). Who isn't out to get you or an evil conspiracy leader?

For all the dumbass conspiracy nuts, here, let me explain you to you.  You're obsessed with the feeling of superiority over others by knowing something they don't or being able to figure something out that they couldn't.  Because of that, you see conspiracies everywhere and no matter what, the majority is ALWAYS wrong and you're ALWAYS right because that makes you feel special.  Take a pill and get off the forums, you fucktard wastes of space.

For the record, we need a limited amount of centralization to get bitcoin running and popularize it.  Without that it'd be chaos.  As soon as the system is widespread enough to not benefit from basically 1 giant controlling party, it will grow way out of their control regardless.  So no worries.

The idea of a few people "representing" millions of other people is bogus and just leads to bad outcomes.
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