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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on October 03, 2024, 01:14:57 PM

Saw a tweet a while ago and it says:

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JUST IN: New HBO documentary claims to have uncovered the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of #Bitcoin.

Damn betting my btc asset its just a hearsay and possible viewers increase since crypto is going mainstream. Maybe HBO should invite some users here like theymos and others who might give them more clue instead.

Edit: Didnt watch the clip yet, but already seen some comments like pouring in. The video will be aired on October 8th, 2024 2am CET ( 9pm EST)

Source:
https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1841901176562094484?t=jaH8reXCbJSvuu2ouXQcYA&s=19

Since this will be showing tomorrow as I checked my HBP account and its not yet there this gives me interest in watching (its been couple of months that I am not using my HBO account ) and am wondering if what can hbo brings here since the site is giving good documentaries over the years .
though we have seen tons of same crap from long time about the Satoshi Nakamoto's true Identity so hoping there will be some light this time .

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Quote from: Mugtaiya on October 06, 2024, 04:25:38 PM

You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
The guy will be tossed in jail.
Look what happened to assange for example of governments not wanting any opponent when it comes to their own laws.
Anyone who goes against the system have been put in their place and dealt with.

This documentary will not tell his identity or else he would already be in handcuffs for some outlandish reason.
Whatever governments holding power wants to make up so to keep their fancy world running.

It's highly likely that whoever was Satoshi is already dead (but not Len).

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Quote from: Coin_trader on October 03, 2024, 09:33:40 PM

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I recall the masked man revealing magician tricks! At first when I saw it, I thought he was masked and hidding his identity because he was actually doing some damage to the industry of magicians and those could take reprisals against him. It was quite interesting.
In the case of this production about Bitcoin it is likely HBO will mention the role of Satoshi Nakamoto in the creation of Bitcoin and the possible reasons why he created a decentralized peer-to-peer payment network, but they will definitely avoid to especulate about his identity (if they want to be serious enough).
Also, it is possible they will mention this forum and the historical value it has for the creation of Bitcoin an other decentralized assets like Ether and Monero.
If we are lucky, we could see some newcomers in this forums after their documentary film gets aired, hopefully most of them are curious people and willing to learn, instead of shitposters.

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Quote from: legiteum on October 06, 2024, 09:01:38 PM

Quote from: Z-tight on October 06, 2024, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: Mugtaiya on October 06, 2024, 04:25:38 PM

You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.

I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts

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Damn, never thought about that one Roll Eyes

Bring the popcorn, legiteum is onto something! Grin

But I still don't think we will have something worth noting at the end of this story, though.

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Quote from: NotATether on October 06, 2024, 07:50:51 AM

Quote from: theymos on October 04, 2024, 12:13:36 PM

Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
- Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
- 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
- 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
- 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
- 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

The problem with these kind of shows is that it doesn't matter if you state the facts, everybody who watches the documentary is going to believe it's true because that's what they said. Wikipedia is going to write it, because it came from an 'authoritative source' (i.e. someone with a lot of traffic). Every news source is going to quote HBO whenever they write an article about Satoshi.

Now there are going to be a lot of flying monkeys coming here to ask about Len Sassaman like this deleted r/Bitcoin post.

They will not only come here to ask about him, they will also ask about the nature of his death. "Why did he kill himself"?, "Did he actually kill himself/no foul play"?, "There was someone who posted something in BitcoinTalk that he will do something. It was one month before his suicide, shouldn't THAT be a matter of interest"?

Those sorts of questions that will create a narrative and rebuild interest on the question - "Who actually is Satoshi Nakamoto"? The newbies will like it.

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Quote from: legiteum on October 06, 2024, 09:01:38 PM

If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts

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The launch of the Satoshi Nakamoto Documentary Film is indeed attracting attention at the moment, there are 1.1 million Bitcoins in his hands. But it's better if we just wait for the film.

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Quote from: Z-tight on October 06, 2024, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: Mugtaiya on October 06, 2024, 04:25:38 PM

You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.

I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

If my baseless conspiracy theory is true, and Bitcoin was invented at the CIA as a honey pot, then it sure would hit Bitcoin where it hurts

.

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Quote from: Mugtaiya on October 06, 2024, 04:25:38 PM

You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.

I don't believe that Satoshi's identity will ever be known, but i disagree with you that if Satoshi is revealed BTC will go to zero, yeah there would be a lot of panic, people would think that since he mined so many coins in the early days, he is about to dump it, this panic will make BTC price to plunge severely, but never to zero. Just like every other fud, it will settle down after sometime and the price will gradually pump again.

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Quote from: mcdouglasx on October 06, 2024, 10:37:05 AM

At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."

Wise words! I think that the revelation that Satoshi Nakamoto is not the real founder at least the videos that are resurfacing that he is Satoshi Nakamoto may be a person with that name but the Satoshi Nakamoto that we know is an Icon and not a person for many of us that is a very fond and likely enthusiast with Bitcoin we see the name Satoshi Nakamoto as a figure of Liberation and Freedom,

I agree that the words of the man in the video Satoshi Nakamoto are not really worth it, even if the real Satoshi Nakamoto comes to the limelight I really think that Bitcoin will still reign Supreme in the Crypto world it has given us financial autonomy, and Stability with each passing years it becomes something more that the government wants to control.

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You all realize if satoshi is ever revealed it will make it go to zero.
The guy will be tossed in jail.
Look what happened to assange for example of governments not wanting any opponent when it comes to their own laws.
Anyone who goes against the system have been put in their place and dealt with.

This documentary will not tell his identity or else he would already be in handcuffs for some outlandish reason.
Whatever governments holding power wants to make up so to keep their fancy world running.

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I guess they’ve gotten what they wanted within few hours, I will love to view the documentary besides I want to see the outcome of the story behind bitcoin but, I don’t believe about Satoshi real identity. This has been for long even if I don’t know much I still see few post trying to claim and reveal Satoshi real identity and they never succeeded in doing that, what’s more surprising they get more streams and viewers whenever such topic is treated due to bitcoin popularity. Let’s imagine all this is real what’s the point showing up now? Just curious to know why satoshi will want to come openly meanwhile I still don’t believe.

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Hmm, I'm late, looks like many things were happening in the absence on the forum, anyway, we'll catch up on them later but Stoshi's new version is out now let's have a look into that first. Honestly, this is one of the most over-rated and recurrent topic ever.

If his revelation can blow up the market ever I'm interested but if it doesn't who cares but I just Love him! Internet is down again here from 2 days and it sucks I want to see him live on Stream.

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Quote from: mcdouglasx on October 06, 2024, 10:37:05 AM

At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."

I agree with you, yes Satoshi has become a philosophy and a symbol, and it does not matter whether Satoshi is alive or dead, the important thing is that he remains anonymous. This legendary symbolism of Satoshi is one of the strengths of Bitcoin.

If the real Satoshi appears and proves with all the evidence that he is really him, many people will not believe him because they loved the legend, and the appearance of the real Satoshi will lose the beauty of the legend and Bitcoin will lose its attractiveness and luster.

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At the point we are at, even if Satoshi were to reveal his identity and sign messages with his addresses,
many people are likely to remain skeptical.
Satoshi has become a philosophy. Satoshi's actual identity is less important than the principles
and technology he left behind. The essence of Bitcoin and its continued success is due to the community of developers,
users, and enthusiasts who believe in his philosophy of decentralization and financial autonomy. Satoshi's identity
is no longer as relevant as what Bitcoin stands for and how it has evolved.
Even if Satoshi were to come back, with other ideals, to preach unpopular things, such as supporting BCH, it would not have to
affect today's Bitcoin, because "you can kill the messenger but not the message."

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Quote from: dzungmobile on October 06, 2024, 04:05:09 AM

~snip~
Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.
I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.

People can behave in very strange ways and this happens constantly - but in this particular case there is no reason to be excited or to panic - because if the documentary in its conclusion announces that they think that the man who has been dead since the middle of 2011 could be Satoshi, then it is not should have no effect on the price of BTC.

If Satoshi is dead, then we don't need to worry about those famous million BTC that he saved in his wallet on the computer where the data is encrypted (if the computer even exists anymore). I think that news like this can be interesting only to children who want to solve mysteries, for the rest of us mysteries exist for a reason, right Mr. Satoshi?

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Quote from: theymos on October 04, 2024, 12:13:36 PM

Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
- Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
- 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
- 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
- 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
- 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

The problem with these kind of shows is that it doesn't matter if you state the facts, everybody who watches the documentary is going to believe it's true because that's what they said. Wikipedia is going to write it, because it came from an 'authoritative source' (i.e. someone with a lot of traffic). Every news source is going to quote HBO whenever they write an article about Satoshi.

Now there are going to be a lot of flying monkeys coming here to ask about Len Sassaman like this deleted r/Bitcoin post.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on October 05, 2024, 06:32:35 AM

Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
Wei Dai
Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
Elon Musk

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How did a LLM manage to come up with an even dumber candidate (Elon) than CSW?

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Quote from: dzungmobile on October 06, 2024, 04:05:09 AM

Quote from: Taskford on October 06, 2024, 03:57:21 AM

For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.

We will have another interesting video of this man, to strongly deny this theory and say "Please stop bothering me, give me peaceful time" like Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto did.

Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.

I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.

He cannot deny or cannot create a video towards this issue since Len Sassaman is dead year 2011.

They are just speculating base on the achievement or title gotten by this man but didn't brought up some facts that can point out that he is the real Satoshi.

Lets just see what will happen since HBO is successful to catch the attention of people.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 06, 2024, 05:50:37 AM

If HBO is indeed starting a narrative that he "could be Satoshi Nakamoto", THEN who actually was Lens Sassaman? If there's truly some probability that he might be Satoshi, then why did he kill himself? OR did he actually kill himself? That question truly deserves to be investigated, no?

Provably he's family know the reason why he do that.

But he really have great career look at his profile and achievement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Sassaman he's really good and good candidate to be the real satoshi, but then again lets just see the documentary of HBO and what information they released about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Yeah I was gonna make a post about this before I saw this, This Documentary I think it’s HBO idea of making some bucks with their story of who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
Making a documentary of the mysterious and godly figure of Satoshi is enough to drive a huge market for them whether it be true or fiction.
Though I think keeping his identity a mystery is still the best thing but with the way they’re going by choosing Lens Sassaman who’s dead, it’s also good to avoid any shakeups or shakedowns to the crypto markets.

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Quote from: Taskford on October 06, 2024, 03:57:21 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 06, 2024, 01:35:05 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on October 05, 2024, 06:32:35 AM

Potential list from ChatGPT searches that might HBO will turn into when the show started. But seriously as per

Dorian Nakamoto Satoshi
Nick Szabo
Hal Finney
Craig wright
Wei Dai
Adam Back
Paul Le Roux
Gavin Andresen
Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry
Elon Musk

There's a less popular candidate that possibly "could be Satoshi", and he died tragically because "he took his own life" during July, 2011 - Lens Sassaman.

A "theory" might be made by some users of the forum about that "suicide", then connect "that" with something that happened a mere month before the "suicide".

👀

To give some good insight towards Lens Sassaman I guess this is good article to read https://protos.com/who-is-len-sassaman-polymarkets-top-bet-for-satoshi/ and guess this is where HBO is heading since they might believe that he's the real Satoshi.

But don't know what are the other proof they have aside for being famous cypherpunk and other things they claim written in that article.

For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.

If HBO is indeed starting a narrative that he "could be Satoshi Nakamoto", THEN who actually was Lens Sassaman? If there's truly some probability that he might be Satoshi, then why did he kill himself? OR did he actually kill himself? That question truly deserves to be investigated, no?

There will be smart individuals in BitcoinTalk who might research dates, read posts of "some people", then connect the dots. Cool

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Quote from: Taskford on October 06, 2024, 03:57:21 AM

For me that is just another pure speculation.

But things got more interesting and we have 2 more days left to see the contents about Satoshi Nakamoto Revealed by HBO.

We will have another interesting video of this man, to strongly deny this theory and say "Please stop bothering me, give me peaceful time" like Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto did.

Bitcoin market can be wild after the movie is fully on air. Some will feel exciting, and some will feel fearful of market dump.

I expect some news like the founder of Bitcoin was identified, and Bitcoin will face with uncertain future with more challenge from governments. I am not making fud here and just speculate types of news will be released after the movie launch.

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