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If Satoshi becomes know then bitcoin is dead. It defeats the entire purpose and reason for bitcoin. If the creator cannot stay annonomous the currency has failed.
I don't understand this fascination with finding out who Satoshi is. Who cares really?

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Quote from: BrewMaster on July 26, 2019, 12:14:35 PM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

Why not revealing them?

then why stop there? why not release the information this site sees from all other users. lets start from you, bitcointalk should release your IP address among other things including browser fingerprint,...

You just made my day, if there is any need to reveal Satishi IP then let's start from OP first before Satoshi. This is ridiculous if the Admin will one day release such confidential information to the public. Keeping the database safe will guarantee the safety of all forum members information.

The IP doesn't really mean anything. Someone else could be using that line now. People move all the time and login from all kinds of places.

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I think you've forgotten something. Like the blockchain, satoshi created this forum. What makes this forum unique is Satoshi's footprints.
Do you think that a clever person like satoshi didn't think about it and take precautions?

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It would be very surprising that someone who went to so much effort to remain anonymous, and obviously had a sound grasp on how to do so, would be so careless as to log in to the forum from his public IP address and give other users the ability to view those IP addresses. Regardless, there was another thread about this not that long ago, where theymos stated he had changed his mind since the 2013 post which is quoted above:

Quote from: theymos on December 09, 2018, 01:00:34 PM

I've rethought this, and I won't be releasing the PMs in 2021. I'm convinced that nobody will ever identify Satoshi no matter what info comes out, so I'm not worried about that, but I am concerned about the privacy of those who communicated with him. For example, kiba once said that he tried to send a gift to Satoshi, but Satoshi declined (reportedly saying something like "I already have plenty of BTC"). If the PMs for this exchange exist in the database and hypothetically look like this:

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kiba: Hey, I know it's worth peanuts, but do you want a gift of 10k BTC?
satoshi: lol, no thanks scrub

Then it would put a big target on kiba's back. (This is only a hypothetical example: in reality, kiba never published the amount he offered Satoshi, if any amount was even specified.) Even if I screened the PMs in advance for obvious stuff like this, it's impossible to find everything. Eg. maybe someone who talked to Satoshi was trying to be anonymous, but people are able to find him just based on his writing style or knowledge.

I do think that there could be historically-relevant info in there, so maybe if Bitcoin has taken over the world in like 50 years and historians are clamoring to know more about its history, I or my successors could be convinced to revisit the issue. Or maybe not; don't get your hopes up. (I still haven't read the PMs, BTW; maybe they're all really boring.)

TL:DR? Come back in 2068 and ask again. Cheesy

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Stop hunting for Satoshi, we have to respect his decision for being anonymous just like what you want. If Satoshi made himself appear in the public then I believe its the right time for him. There are so many IP addresses in this forum history and I believe it can't still reveal any identity.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

Why would they do that? This forum promotes anonymity regardless of who that user is, and do you think Satoshi is stupid enough to reveal his location through an IP?

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Good reasoning in trying to know little about the person of Satoshi. Well he couldn't have exposed his IP, he much more smarter than this, all he does was to think about every possibilities and block all traces.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:50:30 AM

I would be interested in eventually check if these IP are all Tor related. With so many Satoshi popping up to get the Nobel price, it would be useful to at least prove the vague location of Satoshi, if possible of course.
That would be a very interesting thing to study...

Your argument for weeding out Satoshi is to prevent the Nobel prize committee to present it to a fake person Roll Eyes

. Satoshi never really cared about all those lures and accolades, all he ever cared was about his privacy and if people like you never bother to grant him what he wants, first you be the example and provide all your IP details and the rest of the identification details and then ask for the details about another person Tongue

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I am sure admin is smart enough to hide the necessary information even if he is hidden under a TOR and never reveal that in any sort of situation even it is for a noble reason.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:52:39 AM

Rhaaa, so frustrating... @Theymos, please release them! Yes these would have a HUGE historical interest.

If so, history would remember that satoshi's privacy wasn't respected, including by those who cares about privacy Roll Eyes

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

If theymos reveal such information then it turns out that he can reveal anyones location if he'd liked too.Instead on getting praises on such revealing act,there would

really be those people that oppose when it comes to privacy matters.IP log tracing is possible but as said Satoshi do make use of VPN so its still pointless.

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Guess we'll never know satoshi's real IP address, given the very nature of Tor he so often used when frequenting this forum. Granted that theymos released the logs for satoshi on the next 2 years (which is highly unlikely, IMO), it might not be of any use to us now knowing that there are loads of IP addresses existing and he could have chosen somewhere far from where he actually was, but I'll agree that it's somewhat of a relic now should we ever see it.

I myself am intrigued to know where could satoshi possibly be in this world when bitcoin was only starting.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

Why not revealing them?

then why stop there? why not release the information this site sees from all other users. lets start from you, bitcointalk should release your IP address among other things including browser fingerprint,...

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Quote from: kingcolex on July 26, 2019, 09:52:32 AM

He shouldn't no reason to, I think everyone needs to let the man have his privacy.

While I agree with you, I think it depends on what the messages actually contain. If it's something harmless like messages about Bitcoin or about Bitcointalk, basically anything that's nowhere near it being sensitive information(which I heavily doubt Satoshi ever gave sensitive information about himself), then I think it should maybe be fine? It's a no for me with the IPs though, even though I'm 100% certain that Satoshi used Tor/a proxy/a vpn.

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Quote from: simpleIPaddress on July 26, 2019, 09:57:32 AM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

Bitcointalk = Satoshi

Indeed.

One interesting angle that I was investigating, in this regard ...

- http://www.hosterstats.com/historicaldns.php?domain=bitcointalk.org

- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51381164

- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51379174

Note: Registration's prior to these server / domain migrations are also possible ... Wink

Can't post the links here at present, but if you search 'related' IP, domains, dns and server 'registrations' via the wayback machine etc., one thing that I noticed is that multiple instances of the 2008 and/or 2009 data is 'missing', when it is otherwise present for pre / post years.

Remember: GeoIP often changes year on year etc., (having MaxMind GeoIP data from 2008, 2009 helps) however, what my research does tell me is that all of this was done to cover ones tracks from the offset! It is an unlikely coincidence. Did we expect any less from 'Satoshi'?

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Also see here:

Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whois-satoshi-known-satoshi-ip-addresses-5155191

Clearly more 'lies' from CSW though!

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"Finding (Not) Satoshi" ... is/was a Cypherpunk game!

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There is no way you guys can make any use to that 2008 IP address now. and considering how much cool the idea is bitcoin system you can not expect him to be not anonymous. I mean he was literally making a thing which will be the definition of anonymous payments. but also considering that nobody is perfect and everyone leaves some of their marks on the internet so does satoshi will. and having all the possible information is worth a try.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi, because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

Bitcointalk = Satoshi

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Quote from: hakka on July 26, 2019, 09:51:05 AM

Quote from: BitcoinFX on July 26, 2019, 09:39:51 AM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public.

Source / Reference [citation needed] asap.

I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind..

Quote from: theymos on April 17, 2013, 06:20:31 PM

I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)

Rhaaa, so frustrating... @Theymos, please release them! Yes these would have a HUGE historical interest.

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Quote from: hakka on July 26, 2019, 09:51:05 AM

Quote from: BitcoinFX on July 26, 2019, 09:39:51 AM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public.

Source / Reference [citation needed] asap.

I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind..

Quote from: theymos on April 17, 2013, 06:20:31 PM

I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)

He shouldn't no reason to, I think everyone needs to let the man have his privacy.

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Quote from: BitcoinFX on July 26, 2019, 09:39:51 AM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public.

Source / Reference [citation needed] asap.

I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind..

Quote from: theymos on April 17, 2013, 06:20:31 PM

I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)

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Quote from: BitcoinFX on July 26, 2019, 09:39:51 AM

Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public.

Source / Reference [citation needed] asap.

I would be interested in eventually check if these IP are all Tor related. With so many Satoshi popping up to get the Nobel price, it would be useful to at least prove the vague location of Satoshi, if possible of course.
That would be a very interesting thing to study...

If someone having access to the DB of this forum can extract them and send me in a message, I will produce a report and publish it.

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Quote from: TheWolf666 on July 26, 2019, 09:32:50 AM

The admins at Bitcointalk should have several IP addresses from Satoshi,because the IPs are saved in the logs. They are in the Database somewhere!
Why not revealing them?

According to Theymos, Satoshi only ever used Tor to access bitcointalk.org - logs do exist, although they have yet to be made public.

Source / Reference ...

Quote from: hakka on July 26, 2019, 09:51:05 AM

...snip...

I found a source as follows but theymos might have changed his mind..

Quote from: theymos on April 17, 2013, 06:20:31 PM

I'll probably release Satoshi's PMs and logged IPs addresses in ~8 years. This'd probably be of great historical interest. (Though he always used Tor, as far as I can tell.)

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