Satoshi Nakamoto a.k.a. Glenn M. Lilly (mathematician for the NSA)

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 18, 2020, 05:52:21 AM

Wondering though why are there's a lot of thread as of late, pertaining to Satoshi. Where is the new wave coming from and who are the people behind this? Are there people out there trying to destroy Satoshi and his creation? I have my hunch or who are those individuals, but I will keep it to myself. For me, Satoshi has long been gone from the scene and he/she/they chooses to remain like that. And one one to really prove if Glenn Lilly is Satoshi is to sign a message to a known bitcoin address of Satoshi and that's it.

This is another of the versions about Satoshi Nakamoto and the bitcoin he created, of which there have been a lot in recent years, and above all on this forum. So much time has passed that it makes no sense to stir up all this, and primarily due to the fact that the person or group of people who previously worked under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto made every effort to remain anonymous.
Whoever created bitcoin and for what purpose, we will be grateful to him, even if it turns out to be the US National Security Agency.

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I expect to see more of this post in the future. Since Satoshi Nakamoto has refused to review his identity, I don't care who Satoshi is; I only care about Bitcoin.🥰🥰

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on January 06, 2023, 05:21:41 PM

It's funny that nobody is arguing with this video:

https://youtu.be/YdzJTIaVZx8

People aren't arguing with a lot of things because nobody cares.

He's just talking about how phone wallets can theoretically be hacked with malware. That's not a bitcoin problem.

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It's funny that nobody is arguing with this video:

https://youtu.be/YdzJTIaVZx8

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SHA2 was the standard recommended 256-bit hash function at the time Bitcoin was created (and still pretty much is). There was essentially no realistic alternative at the time.

There isn't a connection here.

You can also see this theory speculated on this forum years ago and roundly and promptly debunked.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 06, 2020, 06:43:47 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

Quibbles... the DOJ was assisted which led to the identity of the person in possession of the coins, which ultimately led to them being seized. It doesn’t matter how it happened, it should matter that it happened at all.

It matters big time, the coins that were confiscated were Pursuit of Crime and not some investor holding the coins. The situation is clear, if you did any illegal activities with BTCitcoin it will catch up how many years it took to reach the culprit.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

And his wallet was hacked as outlined by numerous news articles. The DOJ was watching the wallet when it happened which confirms you are being spied on when using crypto’s.

There is no clear evidence of this claim that his wallet was hacked, he was a hacker who skimmed off the coins from silk road and he made some deposits in exchanges and that is the reason the authorities were able to pin point him.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

So it’s easier for them to track gold and silver? Please I need to hear this.

So how you are getting those gold and silver, unless you are finding a treasure there will be receipts and transactions that can be tracked if it is a big amount. Tongue

Just because something is deemed a “crime” doesn’t mean it’s morally correct. The Nazi’s considered it unlawful to house or assist Jews. The punishment was death. So crime or not, individuals should be able to move their money SECURELY without interference from government or prying eyes.

According to the Wall Street journal they say his wallet was hacked so you can argue with them.

How much gold and silver do I have? It could have been passed down from one generation to the next without any trace of who owned it before. It’s clear you don’t understand how precious metals work.

Why do you think people call them “precious”, cause it sounds cute?

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

Quibbles... the DOJ was assisted which led to the identity of the person in possession of the coins, which ultimately led to them being seized. It doesn’t matter how it happened, it should matter that it happened at all.

It matters big time, the coins that were confiscated were Pursuit of Crime and not some investor holding the coins. The situation is clear, if you did any illegal activities with BTCitcoin it will catch up how many years it took to reach the culprit.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

And his wallet was hacked as outlined by numerous news articles. The DOJ was watching the wallet when it happened which confirms you are being spied on when using crypto’s.

There is no clear evidence of this claim that his wallet was hacked, he was a hacker who skimmed off the coins from silk road and he made some deposits in exchanges and that is the reason the authorities were able to pin point him.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

So it’s easier for them to track gold and silver? Please I need to hear this.

So how you are getting those gold and silver, unless you are finding a treasure there will be receipts and transactions that can be tracked if it is a big amount. Tongue

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Quote from: bitmover on November 06, 2020, 05:52:26 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

If ANYONE can be hacked or stolen then logic tells me it’s probably not the best place to keep something of value in that particular medium.

ANYONE can be hacked/stolen in ANY medium. The problem is not the medium.
Who would have 69,000 bitcoin in the same address?? Just spread it in 10 different wallets at least if you want to have some safety.

Your bank account can be stolen as well. Your cash. Especially if you don't follow basic security procedures and recomendations.

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Unlikely is a dynamic term because new flaws can arise without your knowledge, at any time.

I pointed out the DOJ has custody of the seized coins. It’s relevant because the DOJ used a firm (chainalysis) to effectively spy on and confiscate coins from a user, the hacker.

My point is cryptocurrency as a currency has numerous flaws/points of attack. So if you have anything of value in it you should tread carefully, or choose to hold your wealth in something that has stood the test of time. Crypto currencies have their place and potential, however, given the direction the word is going cryptocurrencies as a whole are a gamble.

That story is all over google if you look for it. Look for Russ Ulbricht wallet and click on news.

Bulshit. That is no reason to stop using bitcoin. That is what NSA want you to believe.

Bitcoin doesn't want to replace fiat. It will do something much bigger. People are putting their partial life savings in it. Just like gold, stocks, bonds. And it is working out very well for almsot everyone who is doing it.

Hold USD or EUR. Buy government bonds at negative interest rates (-0.5% per year). See your savings slowing being eaten by negative rates and inflation.
Or buy BTC and look at the moon.

You do what you want but assuming bitcoin isn’t capable of going to 0 and has been around through every kind of collapse known to man like gold has I’d say you have a lot of catching up to do.

The dollar is going to collapse soon and you assume people will still have electricity or internet to transact? Gold works regardless.

But it’s your money, if you lose it the only person responsible is you. And you would need to rewrite the constitution. Article 1 Section 10.

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

If ANYONE can be hacked or stolen then logic tells me it’s probably not the best place to keep something of value in that particular medium.

ANYONE can be hacked/stolen in ANY medium. The problem is not the medium.
Who would have 69,000 bitcoin in the same address?? Just spread it in 10 different wallets at least if you want to have some safety.

Your bank account can be stolen as well. Your cash. Especially if you don't follow basic security procedures and recomendations.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:50:11 PM

So it’s easier for them to track gold and silver? Please I need to hear this.

Much easier.
Most of the gold and silver and called "paper gold" and "paper silver" for a reason: They are Gold backed ETF and Silver backed ETF.
They don't need to be tracked, they just need to be searched in a database to know how much someone owns.

Who the hell is going to store millions of dollars of gold in their wardrobe? That can be "hacked" much easier than any bitcoin.

You are just contradiction yourself Wink

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Quote from: NotATether on November 06, 2020, 05:23:52 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

I pointed out the DOJ has custody of the seized coins. It’s relevant because the DOJ used a firm (chainalysis) to effectively spy on and confiscate coins from a user, the hacker.

Chainalysis can not confiscate people's bitcoins, they can only de-anonymize them because they do not have any private keys.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

My point is cryptocurrency as a currency has numerous flaws/points of attack. So if you have anything of value in it you should tread carefully, or choose to hold your wealth in something that has stood the test of time. Crypto currencies have their place and potential, however, given the direction the word is going cryptocurrencies as a whole are a gamble.

Why do you think they're called cryptocurrencies? They are secured by industry-standard cryptography also used by government agencies, so if cryptocurrency does have numerous points of attack as you say, then we have more serious things to worry about like the ability of NSA/CIA/FBI/Five Eyes/MI5 of getting compromised!

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

That story is all over google if you look for it. Look for Russ Ulbricht wallet and click on news.

First of all Ross Ulbritcht's wallet was not hacked of 69000 BTC. It was in another guy's wallet, and the DoJ legally forced him to surrender the bitcoins to them.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:15:58 PM

What will you as an end user do if the government decides to stop or otherwise limit your transactions for whatever reason they deem to be illegitimate? The government isn’t the end all when it comes to buying/selling goods/services.

The reason cash/barter/gold/silver is better is because you can’t track and tax everything a person does. So if you want to be tracked and taxed then you can but I choose to avoid being taxed and traced. Because let’s face it, are our tax dollars helping communities?

All of the above are taxed and tracked too by the IRS assuming you're in the US, and it's easier for them to find out you're hiding those assets and arrest you, than it is to find bitcoin in an address that they don't know belongs to you.

Quibbles... the DOJ was assisted which led to the identity of the person in possession of the coins, which ultimately led to them being seized. It doesn’t matter how it happened, it should matter that it happened at all.

And his wallet was hacked as outlined by numerous news articles. The DOJ was watching the wallet when it happened which confirms you are being spied on when using crypto’s.

So it’s easier for them to track gold and silver? Please I need to hear this.

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

I pointed out the DOJ has custody of the seized coins. It’s relevant because the DOJ used a firm (chainalysis) to effectively spy on and confiscate coins from a user, the hacker.

Chainalysis can not confiscate people's bitcoins, they can only de-anonymize them because they do not have any private keys.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

My point is cryptocurrency as a currency has numerous flaws/points of attack. So if you have anything of value in it you should tread carefully, or choose to hold your wealth in something that has stood the test of time. Crypto currencies have their place and potential, however, given the direction the word is going cryptocurrencies as a whole are a gamble.

Why do you think they're called cryptocurrencies? They are secured by industry-standard cryptography also used by government agencies, so if cryptocurrency does have numerous points of attack as you say, then we have more serious things to worry about like the ability of NSA/CIA/FBI/Five Eyes/MI5 of getting compromised!

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM

That story is all over google if you look for it. Look for Russ Ulbricht wallet and click on news.

First of all Ross Ulbritcht's wallet was not hacked of 69000 BTC. It was in another guy's wallet, and the DoJ legally forced him to surrender the bitcoins to them.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 05:15:58 PM

What will you as an end user do if the government decides to stop or otherwise limit your transactions for whatever reason they deem to be illegitimate? The government isn’t the end all when it comes to buying/selling goods/services.

The reason cash/barter/gold/silver is better is because you can’t track and tax everything a person does. So if you want to be tracked and taxed then you can but I choose to avoid being taxed and traced. Because let’s face it, are our tax dollars helping communities?

All of the above are taxed and tracked too by the IRS assuming you're in the US, and it's easier for them to find out you're hiding those assets and arrest you, than it is to find bitcoin in an address that they don't know belongs to you.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 06, 2020, 05:06:53 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Packets of info are sent from your modem/connection. This is tied to your name, address, etc. The ISP can see everything you do online. Where do you think those copyright notices come from when people download movies illegally?

If you do not take any precautions then the ISP can see everything you do online.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Case & Point: Russ Ulbricht’s wallet was hacked, and now the DOJ has custody of his 69,000 btc.

If it can happen to the mastermind behind Silk Road, it can happen to you.

If you are talking about the recent events Chainalysis was helping the authorities in identifying the coins and they were able to identify the hacker that stole the bitcoins from silkroad and even Ross Ulbricht was aware of the online identity of the hacker and i wont be surprised if that hacker was active in this forum. You need to worry only if you did illegal things and if not there is no need to Tongue

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What will you as an end user do if the government decides to stop or otherwise limit your transactions for whatever reason they deem to be illegitimate? The government isn’t the end all when it comes to buying/selling goods/services.

The reason cash/barter/gold/silver is better is because you can’t track and tax everything a person does. So if you want to be tracked and taxed then you can but I choose to avoid being taxed and traced. Because let’s face it, are our tax dollars helping communities?

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Quote from: bitmover on November 06, 2020, 05:01:54 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Case & Point: Russ Ulbricht’s wallet was hacked, and now the DOJ has custody of his 69,000 btc.

If it can happen to the mastermind behind Silk Road, it can happen to you.

Anyone can be hacked or stolen.
But you can make it very unlikely to happen.

What does this has to do with the conversation?
What is your point? If a guy was hacked , I shouldn't use btc?

Additionally, being hacked is an amazing way to avoid taxes and the government cant confiscate (or extort you) your bitcoins. He might just made up that hack story to avoid the government, NSA etc

If ANYONE can be hacked or stolen then logic tells me it’s probably not the best place to keep something of value in that particular medium. Unlikely is a dynamic term because new flaws can arise without your knowledge, at any time.

I pointed out the DOJ has custody of the seized coins. It’s relevant because the DOJ used a firm (chainalysis) to effectively spy on and confiscate coins from a user, the hacker.

My point is cryptocurrency as a currency has numerous flaws/points of attack. So if you have anything of value in it you should tread carefully, or choose to hold your wealth in something that has stood the test of time. Crypto currencies have their place and potential, however, given the direction the word is going cryptocurrencies as a whole are a gamble.

That story is all over google if you look for it. Look for Russ Ulbricht wallet and click on news.

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Packets of info are sent from your modem/connection. This is tied to your name, address, etc. The ISP can see everything you do online. Where do you think those copyright notices come from when people download movies illegally?

If you do not take any precautions then the ISP can see everything you do online.

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Case & Point: Russ Ulbricht’s wallet was hacked, and now the DOJ has custody of his 69,000 btc.

If it can happen to the mastermind behind Silk Road, it can happen to you.

If you are talking about the recent events Chainalysis was helping the authorities in identifying the coins and they were able to identify the hacker that stole the bitcoins from silkroad and even Ross Ulbricht was aware of the online identity of the hacker and i wont be surprised if that hacker was active in this forum. You need to worry only if you did illegal things and if not there is no need to Tongue

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on November 06, 2020, 04:38:43 PM

Case & Point: Russ Ulbricht’s wallet was hacked, and now the DOJ has custody of his 69,000 btc.

If it can happen to the mastermind behind Silk Road, it can happen to you.

Anyone can be hacked or stolen.
But you can make it very unlikely to happen.

What does this has to do with the conversation?
What is your point? If a guy was hacked , I shouldn't use btc?

Additionally, being hacked is an amazing way to avoid taxes and the government cant confiscate (or extort you) your bitcoins. He might just made up that hack story to avoid the government, NSA etc

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Quote from: pixie85 on May 21, 2020, 05:00:20 PM

Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on May 19, 2020, 11:00:29 PM

On the contrary, most, if not all cell phones or internet connected devices have a “hard coded” MAC/serial number that is tied to an individuals internet service provider, which is tied to someone that showed an ID to open the account, the serial/MAC of that device links the name, directly linking the identity - via multiple steps. They have already started contact tracing for COVID19 by way of an individuals cell phone, imagine the things they are doing and not telling you about.

Please explain to me how they'd know my ID by knowing my computer's serial number.
The only thing that is tied to my ISP is the IP address, but how does that reveal my identity through the blockchain?

Bitcoin is as anonymous as you make it.

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I was arrested by the FBI at age 26 so it’s more than likely I know what I’m talking about when it comes to matters of privacy and DOCSIS. I was snitched on by someone who also worked in the same field.

The US agencies have no jurisdiction in my country.

Packets of info are sent from your modem/connection. This is tied to your name, address, etc. The ISP can see everything you do online. Where do you think those copyright notices come from when people download movies illegally?

I honestly didn’t come here to debate. It’s my intention to make it known, wether or not you believe it is irrelevant because now the info is there for people to decide.

As for Craig Wright he didn’t patent the hashing algorithm, the NSA did. To me what that spells out is they already have it reverse engineered for their benefit.

Case & Point: Russ Ulbricht’s wallet was hacked, and now the DOJ has custody of his 69,000 btc.

If it can happen to the mastermind behind Silk Road, it can happen to you.

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 22, 2020, 05:35:22 AM

By your statement "If I invented something as monumental as bitcoin, I would take credit for it somewhere. Wouldn’t you?"

I didn't notice this the first time around. This points to OP's fundamental lack of understanding of the whole thing, and Satoshi. You don't invent Bitcoin so a few years down the line you get invited to go and bake cakes on TV.

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By your statement "If I invented something as monumental as bitcoin, I would take credit for it somewhere. Wouldn’t you?"

This means that CSW is the rightful inventor of bitcoin, then? He really pushes the Satoshi identity for himself to the extremes that even he defies local laws just to tell the world how genius he is.

It is a flawed logic, and does not apply to any and all individual just because your line of thinking is like that. For all we know, Satoshi just really wants to get off the hook as soon as the project got off of the platform--and even surpassed his expectations for it. Perhaps he's just overwhelmed with everything that he had to leave. There are people like that, trust me, that no matter how genius their inventions are, they'd just leave it for others to peruse without even boasting how they did it.

Also, reading on the 'bits and pieces' on the patent 6829355, there's really not much into it apart from SHA-2, which the SHA-256 belongs to. This does not explain the relationship of the patent, the mathematician and bitcoin--not even on the wildest thoughts. Just because I invented the ice cream machine does not mean that I invent other things that peruses my machine.

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So many scenarios about who is Satoshi Nakamoto, and we will read it again in the future. It is only a sample like the other story that we know, but we still don't know the person behind of Satoshi Nakamoto. If we know who is he/she/they, what we want to do? You want to come to his house and ask him with thousand of the question?

Let Satoshi Nakamoto decide, and if he/she/they still want to hide the identity, please let him stay at the dark without saying any more about that. If one day, he/she/they think that he/she/they need to clarify to the public, he/she/they will come out and tell the truth.

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Quote from: PSCQQSCQQP on May 19, 2020, 11:00:29 PM

On the contrary, most, if not all cell phones or internet connected devices have a “hard coded” MAC/serial number that is tied to an individuals internet service provider, which is tied to someone that showed an ID to open the account, the serial/MAC of that device links the name, directly linking the identity - via multiple steps. They have already started contact tracing for COVID19 by way of an individuals cell phone, imagine the things they are doing and not telling you about.

Please explain to me how they'd know my ID by knowing my computer's serial number.
The only thing that is tied to my ISP is the IP address, but how does that reveal my identity through the blockchain?

Bitcoin is as anonymous as you make it.

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I was arrested by the FBI at age 26 so it’s more than likely I know what I’m talking about when it comes to matters of privacy and DOCSIS. I was snitched on by someone who also worked in the same field.

The US agencies have no jurisdiction in my country.

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