I understand that, what are you not understanding about it was created before it had its brand name?
It’s also equally ridiculous that the economy is in ruins. Yet bitcoin was introduced at the perfect time for the banking crisis. Sounds like very convenient timing, but you would write it off as coincidence. The economy being shutdown is also ridiculous depending on who you ask. If I’m wrong you’ll know soon enough. Since 9/11 the patriot act was reintroduced to continue spying on Americans and their bank accounts, but you keep living in fantasy land like I’m a crazy conspiracy theorist.
BTW, the patriot act is a real thing. Not conspiracy theory. Let’s talk about how half the country is out of work, as the entire globe struggles with authority. That’s another fact, watch global news and you’ll see. You act like I’m here to spread misinformation. I offered up reliable information showing a clear connection, and you decide to bash on me. Shame on you.
All due respect, you really need to learn how to connect the dots and read between the lines.
KYC/AML laws.
Governments auction bitcoin off. They don’t hoard it.
ISP’s can limit access to specific MAC addresses.
Laundry list of problems with this “currency”, and you’re too biased to see what’s right in front of you, probably because most members posting here have a vested interest in seeing bitcoin succeed.
Strange that government agencies use the hashing algorithm as you just stated, and you think that’s not at all cause for concern?
Mainstream media promoting it as something criminals use, yet they can be easily tracked... clearly it was promoted for a reason, by the MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
I also have a letter from a friend inquiring to the NSA about their involvement in bitcoin, and their answer is convoluted and doesn’t answer the question. Adding more fuel to the fire.
Topic: Satoshi Nakamoto a.k.a. Glenn M. Lilly (mathematician for the NSA) - page 3. (Read 866 times)
May 18, 2020, 08:25:33 PM
May 18, 2020, 07:26:03 PM
The originating patent doesn’t suffice?
That is a patent for a hash algorithm that was in use long before Bitcoin existed. To say that the intention of developing SHA-2 was for Bitcoin is ridiculous. Look at this statement from NIST:
March 15, 2006: The SHA-2 family of hash functions (i.e., SHA-224, SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512) may be used by Federal agencies for all applications using secure hash algorithms. Federal agencies should stop using SHA-1 for digital signatures, digital time stamping and other applications that require collision resistance as soon as practical, and must use the SHA-2 family of hash functions for these applications after 2010.
Any rebuttals that you may have that are based on other conspiracy fantasies are equally ridiculous.
May 18, 2020, 07:09:45 PM
The originating patent doesn’t suffice?
Unfortunately not.
As per my previous thread post above, Bitcoin is a technology compiled of numerous parts ...
The patent and 'code' you mention has multiple software application uses (also preceding Bitcoins inception).
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function#Applications
See the original Bitcoin whitepaper for Hashcash etc.,
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashcash
...
The true history of Bitcoins development, technology and code might eventually provide us with some further clues though. Example ...
Origins of IRC Bootstrapping
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/origins-of-irc-bootstrapping-3409690
...
"What's the S stand for?"
May 18, 2020, 06:20:43 PM
The originating patent doesn’t suffice?
If he can signed this GPG message using the Public Key. This is available since he starting posting here.
https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc
And I thought that Satoshi though is not American because he uses British English? Lol.
May 18, 2020, 05:30:16 PM
The originating patent doesn’t suffice?
May 18, 2020, 10:19:02 AM
This time is not he himself claiming to be satoshi but someone claims someone to be satoshi. Not that it doesn't matter who Satoshi is. He matters of course but he will only matter if he can sign a message otherwise this is another kind of CW and we're all fed up to BTC forks that anyone who claims to be Satoshi. If Glenn can't provide proof or anything to contribute I guess not wasting the time of people in the community will be a good contribution.
May 18, 2020, 10:04:43 AM
You're in the wrong place...
You are telling a delusion. if it is not a delusion, then the evidence must be there. satoshi is still a mystery at this time, whatever people say about him is considered a lie, and I see that his identity does not need to be known and Satoshi certainly does not want anyone to know him.
You are telling a delusion. if it is not a delusion, then the evidence must be there. satoshi is still a mystery at this time, whatever people say about him is considered a lie, and I see that his identity does not need to be known and Satoshi certainly does not want anyone to know him.
May 18, 2020, 09:43:17 AM
Short answer. The government created bitcoin. Specifically, the National Security Agency.
When? 2001. By a mathematician known as Glenn M. Lilly, employed by and under the direction of the NSA.
Why? As a control mechanism to tax, as well as trace each individual with ease.
When? 2001. By a mathematician known as Glenn M. Lilly, employed by and under the direction of the NSA.
Why? As a control mechanism to tax, as well as trace each individual with ease.
As soon as you get Glenn M. Lilly sign a message with one of the known addresses to belong to Satoshi I believe you. And not a second earlier.
As simple as that.
Have a nice day.
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I discovered the original patent filed on Mar 5, 2001. This of course had not yet taken on the official name of “bitcoin” since it was 8 years prior. Device for and method of one-way cryptographic hashing. Filed by The National Security Agency. Inventor (as stated in the patent): Glenn M. Lilly.
For verification purposes look up patent 6829355 and go over it with a fine tooth comb, just as I did. To come to an actual conclusion.
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I discovered the original patent filed on Mar 5, 2001. This of course had not yet taken on the official name of “bitcoin” since it was 8 years prior. Device for and method of one-way cryptographic hashing. Filed by The National Security Agency. Inventor (as stated in the patent): Glenn M. Lilly.
For verification purposes look up patent 6829355 and go over it with a fine tooth comb, just as I did. To come to an actual conclusion.
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Debunking bits and pieces here ...
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"Patents by Inventor Glenn M. Lilly" ...
- https://patents.justia.com/inventor/glenn-m-lilly
See:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2
"... SHA-2 was first published by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) as a U.S. federal standard (FIPS). The SHA-2 family of algorithms are patented in US patent 6829355. The United States has released the patent under a royalty-free license..."
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See:
- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_hashing_algorithm
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"The whole is greater than the sum of its parts." - (Unknown / Aristotle ?) ...
The OP has assumed that because a motor car has wheels the inventor of the motor car must also be the inventor of the wheel.
If I have to believe you then I will have to believe that government has created a Frankenstein that they are unable to control now. Bitcoin is essentially helping people to overlook the traditional economy and having control over their own finances.
Satoshi the entity still controls a vast amount of coins. I can well believe it was a state actor running a grand experiment and sending it out into the world to see what happens. It's no sillier an idea than one obsessive looking to overthrow The Man.
Wondering though why are there's a lot of thread as of late, pertaining to Satoshi. Where is the new wave coming from and who are the people behind this? Are there people out there trying to destroy Satoshi and his creation? I have my hunch or who are those individuals, but I will keep it to myself. For me, Satoshi has long been gone from the scene and he/she/they chooses to remain like that. And one one to really prove if Glenn Lilly is Satoshi is to sign a message to a known bitcoin address of Satoshi and that's it.
Maybe there are this kind of demolition job to discredit Satoshi himself.
Anyways, we have a lot of likely candidates in the past, but we all know that everyone of them is fake and Satoshi is really good at hiding his identify to the world. But I don't think that people are going to rest in the next ten years and giving us supposedly proof who Satoshi is. But then again, this community has heard so much conspiracy pertaining to the real identity that we grew tired of hearing another one.
Wondering though why are there's a lot of thread as of late, pertaining to Satoshi. Where is the new wave coming from and who are the people behind this? Are there people out there trying to destroy Satoshi and his creation? I have my hunch or who are those individuals, but I will keep it to myself. For me, Satoshi has long been gone from the scene and he/she/they chooses to remain like that. And one one to really prove if Glenn Lilly is Satoshi is to sign a message to a known bitcoin address of Satoshi and that's it.
If I have to believe you then I will have to believe that government has created a Frankenstein that they are unable to control now. Bitcoin is essentially helping people to overlook the traditional economy and having control over their own finances.
However, this community is not interested in knowing the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Because that's not going to bring any impact on bitcoin network which is essentially controlled by millions of miners worldwide. Knowing the identity would not hurt or help bitcoin in any way!
Right. The only thing we'd do by finding who Satoshi really was is probably damaging his safety if he was an individual who now wants his privacy. But if Bitcoin was created by the NSA to properly track us, I have very bad news for them: Monero exists! However, this community is not interested in knowing the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Because that's not going to bring any impact on bitcoin network which is essentially controlled by millions of miners worldwide. Knowing the identity would not hurt or help bitcoin in any way!
Most people don't even care what Bitcoin is, as long as they earn it & its value goes up. If BTC was a gov's plan, then it failed miserably imo. We have mixers, decentralized exchanges and many other ways of hiding our identity.
Bitcoin for sure help a lot of people when t comes to earning money and that is a fact, however a lot of member of this forum already lost their interest on knowing the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto because of the fact the there are already a lot of people who claims that they were the creator of Bitcoin, and because of that, many people lost their interest and we cannot identify who is who, and who is the real one.
There are hundreds of topics currently created by members in this forum, about "Satoshi Nakamoto", no matter for us 'Satoshi' is NSA, intelligence, UN, astronaut, moon and star.
What is clear is that 'Satoshi' has made changes in the economy of global communities around the world through digital currencies or Bitcoin that you know today.
OP, if you just want to reveal and say about 'Satoshi' it seems you are too late to say it all.
Precisely many people who want to reveal the identity of "Satoshi Nakamoto", but everything ends and is full of nonsense.
OP, we need a little peace of mind to invest in Bitcoin and also face the world currently in the plague, So don't you add the identity of 'Satoshi Nakamoto' which states that he is a monster from space.
is enough everyone needs peace.
What is clear is that 'Satoshi' has made changes in the economy of global communities around the world through digital currencies or Bitcoin that you know today.
OP, if you just want to reveal and say about 'Satoshi' it seems you are too late to say it all.
Precisely many people who want to reveal the identity of "Satoshi Nakamoto", but everything ends and is full of nonsense.
OP, we need a little peace of mind to invest in Bitcoin and also face the world currently in the plague, So don't you add the identity of 'Satoshi Nakamoto' which states that he is a monster from space.
is enough everyone needs peace.
If I have to believe you then I will have to believe that government has created a Frankenstein that they are unable to control now. Bitcoin is essentially helping people to overlook the traditional economy and having control over their own finances.
However, this community is not interested in knowing the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Because that's not going to bring any impact on bitcoin network which is essentially controlled by millions of miners worldwide. Knowing the identity would not hurt or help bitcoin in any way!
However, this community is not interested in knowing the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Because that's not going to bring any impact on bitcoin network which is essentially controlled by millions of miners worldwide. Knowing the identity would not hurt or help bitcoin in any way!
Before anyone decides to start bashing, allow me to introduce myself.
My name is Matt Delorey, currently I am 36 years old. I founded a website formerly known as MassModz.com in 2008. My website and business was shuttered by the FBI in 2010 on charges of wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and breaking into a secure computer network.
I worked single handedly developing and reverse engineering firmware for the Motorola SB6120 cable modem, among other things.
The reason I am bringing this to light at this specific period of time is because without the events taking place globally, nobody would think twice about the things I’m about to tell you as being factual.
Short answer. The government created bitcoin. Specifically, the National Security Agency.
When? 2001. By a mathematician known as Glenn M. Lilly, employed by and under the direction of the NSA.
Why? As a control mechanism to tax, as well as trace each individual with ease.
It’s a lot easier to believe with everything currently happening globally now, government overreach, etc. Which is why I didn’t post this info sooner.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym to take any focus you have off the US Government and their intention with crypto-currency. This persons tracks were covered so well, that no government agency or individual has been able to uncover their true identity, until now.
How? Instead of trusting anyone to give me reliable information. I made inquiries, used intuition, and checked a multitude of sources.
My thought process:
If I invented something as monumental as bitcoin, I would take credit for it somewhere. Wouldn’t you?
So, if one were to take credit for something like this, where would they go?
Simple, the patent office. So that’s where I checked.
I discovered the original patent filed on Mar 5, 2001. This of course had not yet taken on the official name of “bitcoin” since it was 8 years prior. Device for and method of one-way cryptographic hashing. Filed by The National Security Agency. Inventor (as stated in the patent): Glenn M. Lilly.
For verification purposes look up patent 6829355 and go over it with a fine tooth comb, just as I did. To come to an actual conclusion.
Bitcoin is intended for governments to have more control over you, while using perpetuated media hyperbole to give you the illusion that it’s a “decentralized” payment network. Tell that to all the AML, and KYC laws... ISP’s can limit transactions based on MAC addresses.
It’s fine as a speculative asset, dangerous long term. It plays into the governments plan for contact tracing, tracking purchases, limiting purchases, etc.
I was also able to obtain Mr. Lilly’s private info, such as social security #, addresses, wife’s name, phone numbers, birth certificate, etc.
My name is Matt Delorey, currently I am 36 years old. I founded a website formerly known as MassModz.com in 2008. My website and business was shuttered by the FBI in 2010 on charges of wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and breaking into a secure computer network.
I worked single handedly developing and reverse engineering firmware for the Motorola SB6120 cable modem, among other things.
The reason I am bringing this to light at this specific period of time is because without the events taking place globally, nobody would think twice about the things I’m about to tell you as being factual.
Short answer. The government created bitcoin. Specifically, the National Security Agency.
When? 2001. By a mathematician known as Glenn M. Lilly, employed by and under the direction of the NSA.
Why? As a control mechanism to tax, as well as trace each individual with ease.
It’s a lot easier to believe with everything currently happening globally now, government overreach, etc. Which is why I didn’t post this info sooner.
Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym to take any focus you have off the US Government and their intention with crypto-currency. This persons tracks were covered so well, that no government agency or individual has been able to uncover their true identity, until now.
How? Instead of trusting anyone to give me reliable information. I made inquiries, used intuition, and checked a multitude of sources.
My thought process:
If I invented something as monumental as bitcoin, I would take credit for it somewhere. Wouldn’t you?
So, if one were to take credit for something like this, where would they go?
Simple, the patent office. So that’s where I checked.
I discovered the original patent filed on Mar 5, 2001. This of course had not yet taken on the official name of “bitcoin” since it was 8 years prior. Device for and method of one-way cryptographic hashing. Filed by The National Security Agency. Inventor (as stated in the patent): Glenn M. Lilly.
For verification purposes look up patent 6829355 and go over it with a fine tooth comb, just as I did. To come to an actual conclusion.
Bitcoin is intended for governments to have more control over you, while using perpetuated media hyperbole to give you the illusion that it’s a “decentralized” payment network. Tell that to all the AML, and KYC laws... ISP’s can limit transactions based on MAC addresses.
It’s fine as a speculative asset, dangerous long term. It plays into the governments plan for contact tracing, tracking purchases, limiting purchases, etc.
I was also able to obtain Mr. Lilly’s private info, such as social security #, addresses, wife’s name, phone numbers, birth certificate, etc.
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