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October 28, 2014, 09:34:34 AM
#93
Any sort of time travel from the future presents the temporal paradox, by which the slightest change in the past has amplified results that are utterly unpredictable to the time traveler attempting to change the present by altering the past.  The butterfly effect.  For example, if you go back and kill Hitler, maybe the Soviet Union then takes over the world...  A much worse result.

No, time travel has too many problems and paradoxes.  More likely to me Satoshi Nakamoto is an alien from a much more advanced culture and civilization who is perhaps guiding and monitoring and altering our culture in real time.  Men in black, if you will.
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October 22, 2014, 07:00:52 AM
#92

Well, Nikola Tesla had just as much insight into potential future impacts of certain techs and had comparable levels of impact on the world with his inventions (he could have had a lot more impact if he werent drowned by capitalism, eg his free electricity transmitter).
Tesla never claimed to be a TT, so if human genius can be as capable as he was, then I think Bitcoin could be achieved by a similar person without the need to 'know' the future.

That said I hope he is a TT, its way more interesting and also that way he less likely to spend his coins for a loong while:)



The other thing about TT is that it begs lots of questions i love to think about:
is TT not regulated in the future? Was [t]{s}he[y]* a lone shark traveler just out to make themselves rich with pre-mining?
If TT is regulated or not, why didnt * go back and kill hitler or some other mass monster(s)?
Why not prevent lots of senseless deaths by inventing earthquake detectors or leaving more benevolent tech?
If * are just out to get rich, why not do something that is more likely to survive into the future like buy gold at 1$ per ounce(gold has stood longer test of time so far, BTC could be made illegal still in an unknown timeline - I guess this person cant be from a tooo distant future then)?
What other inventions were given to humanity without knowing who * is/are? If this is a solo actor acting illegally, how did they get away with it? Surely they can detect ST distortions?

Maybe * illegally travelled back, pre-mined enough to get rich without intending to return to their original time for fear of getting busted - but that would mean the BTC value gets high enough in this lifetime, and adoption gets widescale enough that * can withdraw them without causing a price crash, OR widespread enough that * can just live off spending them...

Now you got me thinking:p
 

Also makes me think of The Philedelphia experiment lol time travel and things of that nature

Was Nikola Croatian or Serbian?  what is your opinion?
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October 21, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
#91


If TT is regulated or not, why didnt * go back and kill hitler or some other mass monster(s)?
Why not prevent lots of senseless deaths by inventing earthquake detectors or leaving more benevolent tech?


Perhaps one can not TT to a past date prior to the existence of TT. I would think there needs to be a portal of some sort on the receiving end before one could travel back to. So if TT was discovered/invented today then in the future one could only travel as far back as 10/21/2014.
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October 21, 2014, 05:41:33 PM
#90

Well, Nikola Tesla had just as much insight into potential future impacts of certain techs and had comparable levels of impact on the world with his inventions (he could have had a lot more impact if he werent drowned by capitalism, eg his free electricity transmitter).
Tesla never claimed to be a TT, so if human genius can be as capable as he was, then I think Bitcoin could be achieved by a similar person without the need to 'know' the future.

That said I hope he is a TT, its way more interesting and also that way he less likely to spend his coins for a loong while:)



The other thing about TT is that it begs lots of questions i love to think about:
is TT not regulated in the future? Was [t]{s}he[y]* a lone shark traveler just out to make themselves rich with pre-mining?
If TT is regulated or not, why didnt * go back and kill hitler or some other mass monster(s)?
Why not prevent lots of senseless deaths by inventing earthquake detectors or leaving more benevolent tech?
If * are just out to get rich, why not do something that is more likely to survive into the future like buy gold at 1$ per ounce(gold has stood longer test of time so far, BTC could be made illegal still in an unknown timeline - I guess this person cant be from a tooo distant future then)?
What other inventions were given to humanity without knowing who * is/are? If this is a solo actor acting illegally, how did they get away with it? Surely they can detect ST distortions?

Maybe * illegally travelled back, pre-mined enough to get rich without intending to return to their original time for fear of getting busted - but that would mean the BTC value gets high enough in this lifetime, and adoption gets widescale enough that * can withdraw them without causing a price crash, OR widespread enough that * can just live off spending them...

Now you got me thinking:p
 

Also makes me think of The Philedelphia experiment lol time travel and things of that nature
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October 21, 2014, 08:12:03 AM
#89
I read the whole 5 pages, I too think there are somethings which prove the time travelling thing. I liked the comment which said data time travelling. That would make alot of sense too. As in my knowledge there is a documentary about a time machine which is in working and allows atoms to time travel, I think this too started in 2009-2010. They too said the first contact from future will not be humans but data. Thats why we see the bitcoin started in 2008 while they were testing it. They also said that no one could travel back from a time when 1st time will be started. You can search this about on google.

There r lots of questions, Why 8 decimal place? This shows he kept in mind that in future bitcoin will become main stream. etc.
so hard to belive that some humans are able to predict the future quite accurate?? would not include me
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October 21, 2014, 08:11:39 AM
#88
2020 that means 6 more years. hopefully I have not been busy with another job,
because this time I was free and single.
honestly, I am a person who quickly get bored with something
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October 21, 2014, 08:07:20 AM
#87
I read the whole 5 pages, I too think there are somethings which prove the time travelling thing. I liked the comment which said data time travelling. That would make alot of sense too. As in my knowledge there is a documentary about a time machine which is in working and allows atoms to time travel, I think this too started in 2009-2010. They too said the first contact from future will not be humans but data. Thats why we see the bitcoin started in 2008 while they were testing it. They also said that no one could travel back from a time when 1st time will be started. You can search this about on google.

There r lots of questions, Why 8 decimal place? This shows he kept in mind that in future bitcoin will become main stream. etc.

You did find funny way to justice your Bitcoin investment i see. If they were made from time traveler then for sure have to be best thing there is.


But generally you are right Bitcoins will get used in much wider scale as are using right now.
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October 21, 2014, 03:42:21 AM
#86
I read the whole 5 pages, I too think there are somethings which prove the time travelling thing. I liked the comment which said data time travelling. That would make alot of sense too. As in my knowledge there is a documentary about a time machine which is in working and allows atoms to time travel, I think this too started in 2009-2010. They too said the first contact from future will not be humans but data. Thats why we see the bitcoin started in 2008 while they were testing it. They also said that no one could travel back from a time when 1st time will be started. You can search this about on google.

There r lots of questions, Why 8 decimal place? This shows he kept in mind that in future bitcoin will become main stream. etc.
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October 20, 2014, 08:10:52 PM
#85
cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

for me it looks like "Satoshi Nakamoto" is more an computer scientists than a mathematician (or both). he is familiar with core concepts of computer siences and coding. his communication style has a bit of a patriarch or a leader something in the 30s/40s (he had an answer to everything Wink source: bookofsatoshi.com). his communication is direct and straight forward so it reminds me more to a German or Japanese than an US American or Brit.

GMX is a one of the first and oldest Email provider in Germany. If I saw his Email address for the first time I was really surprised he used this as an official Email address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMX_Mail

so he could be a German CS professor but for this he is not greedy enough. Huh or did he destroy the private keys of the minted blocks to prevent himself to get in temptation?

the communication with Gavin Andresen immediately stopped as Gavin asked how to handle a request of the iqt.org. maybe this was the time he realized that it will becomes a huge thing.

if the thesis tends to the truth the main timeframe of his Emails should be an European or Asia timezone not a US timezone.


This link probably has the answers to those questions. Looks like every important line is backed up by a published paper or that person's archived email. That other link you had quoted looks to be wrote while the research was still going on(Szabo had studied and wrote on every aspect of that guy that link was pointing to) that's what had threw everything off. A software developer found a key that finally unlocked the puzzle.

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/


That was a fascinating read! thanks!!!
Now I'm even more excited about Ethereum:

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Note: Please read this next section until it makes sence:

Szabo “came up” with the technology that will become ethereum including smart contracts which was solely contingent on Satoshi’s work that Szabo never knew would be produced?

Smart contracts come about because Bitcoin is the beginning of the completion of a “Kula Ring”, a unifying solution that bridges among other things, game theory, encryption, economics, finance, programming, and law… there are not multiple random people capable of this…..


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October 20, 2014, 07:23:59 PM
#84
lol what?  Cheesy
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October 20, 2014, 07:20:52 PM
#83
Goddamn you fuckers!  Smiley Quit linking to long-winded literature that'll pique my interest.  Kiss Don't you realize that I'm in the process of penning my first White Paper, with apologies for it only being a billion-dollar idea.  Cool

Now, if you'll excuse me, back to my White Paper, for I just realized I spelt pique with a g over there.  Cry

BTW, thanks for the last couple posts, guys.
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October 20, 2014, 04:57:46 PM
#82
cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

for me it looks like "Satoshi Nakamoto" is more an computer scientists than a mathematician (or both). he is familiar with core concepts of computer siences and coding. his communication style has a bit of a patriarch or a leader something in the 30s/40s (he had an answer to everything Wink source: bookofsatoshi.com). his communication is direct and straight forward so it reminds me more to a German or Japanese than an US American or Brit.

GMX is a one of the first and oldest Email provider in Germany. If I saw his Email address for the first time I was really surprised he used this as an official Email address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMX_Mail

so he could be a German CS professor but for this he is not greedy enough. Huh or did he destroy the private keys of the minted blocks to prevent himself to get in temptation?

the communication with Gavin Andresen immediately stopped as Gavin asked how to handle a request of the iqt.org. maybe this was the time he realized that it will becomes a huge thing.

if the thesis tends to the truth the main timeframe of his Emails should be an European or Asia timezone not a US timezone.


This link probably has the answers to those questions. Looks like every line is backed up by a published paper or archived email. That other link you had quoted was while the research was still going on(Szabo had studied and wrote on every aspect of that guy) that's what had threw us off. A software developer found a key that finally unlocked the puzzle.

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/



It was not just Developers!  Wink

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October 20, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
#81
cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

for me it looks like "Satoshi Nakamoto" is more an computer scientists than a mathematician (or both). he is familiar with core concepts of computer siences and coding. his communication style has a bit of a patriarch or a leader something in the 30s/40s (he had an answer to everything Wink source: bookofsatoshi.com). his communication is direct and straight forward so it reminds me more to a German or Japanese than an US American or Brit.

GMX is a one of the first and oldest Email provider in Germany. If I saw his Email address for the first time I was really surprised he used this as an official Email address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMX_Mail

so he could be a German CS professor but for this he is not greedy enough. Huh or did he destroy the private keys of the minted blocks to prevent himself to get in temptation?

the communication with Gavin Andresen immediately stopped as Gavin asked how to handle a request of the iqt.org. maybe this was the time he realized that it will becomes a huge thing.

if the thesis tends to the truth the main timeframe of his Emails should be an European or Asia timezone not a US timezone.


This link probably has the answers to those questions. Looks like every important line is backed up by a published paper or that person's archived email. That other link you had quoted looks to be wrote while the research was still going on(Szabo had studied and wrote on every aspect of that guy that link was pointing to) that's what had threw everything off. A software developer found a key that finally unlocked the puzzle.

http://originalcontroltheory.tumblr.com/
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October 20, 2014, 01:46:02 PM
#80
cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

for me it looks like "Satoshi Nakamoto" is more an computer scientists than a mathematician (or both). he is familiar with core concepts of computer siences and coding. his communication style has a bit of a patriarch expert or a leader (in a practical way) something in the 30s/40s (he had an answer to everything Wink source: bookofsatoshi.com). his communication is direct and straight forward so it reminds me more to a German or Japanese than an US American or Brit.

GMX is a one of the first and oldest Email provider in Germany. If I saw his Email address for the first time I was really surprised he used this as an official Email address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMX_Mail

so he could be a German CS professor but for this he is not greedy enough. Huh or did he destroy the private keys of the minted blocks to prevent himself to get in temptation?

the communication with Gavin Andresen immediately stopped as Gavin asked how to handle a request of the iqt.org. maybe this was the time he realized that it will becomes a huge thing.

if the thesis tends to the truth the main timeframe of his Emails should be an European or Asia timezone not a US timezone.
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October 20, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
#79
Is Satoshi Nakamoto a person? I always feel it is a group and is not Japanese. How do you think? Is there anyone who has seen him? Or does this person really exist?

The genesis block of the blockchain that "Satoshi" started on 2009-01-03 includes a newspaper headline.  Its purpose was to prove that the blockchain was not not created before that date (which could give the creator certain unfair and potentially dangerous advantages over other miners.)  The headline is from the British newspaper "The Times", 2009-01-03.  The choice of a British newspaper could be a deliberate ruse to hide his location; but could also be the newspaper that he had at hand.

"Satoshi" could be a team, and perhaps a government team. The "completeness" of the design, with all conceivable problems solved in some way or another, reminds me of the Stuxnet virus.

This theory could explain why none of "Satoshi"'s known coins have been spent yet:  having been mined as part of their job, they are government's property and not "Satoshi"'s.

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October 20, 2014, 07:00:56 AM
#78
Is Satoshi Nakamoto a person? I always feel it is a group and is not Japanese. How do you think? Is there anyone who has seen him? Or does this person really exist?

She is European
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October 20, 2014, 02:23:50 AM
#77
Is Satoshi Nakamoto a person? I always feel it is a group and is not Japanese. How do you think? Is there anyone who has seen him? Or does this person really exist?
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October 20, 2014, 02:09:41 AM
#76
Anyone think that perhaps Satoshi passed away either naturally or by accident and that's why we haven't heard from him since?

Maybe he had a sort of Walter White experience and was given a few years left to live but instead of wanting to make a meth empire he wanted to create something truly amazing.

No one knew who he really was, so it could be possible that he was driving somewhere one day and was killed in a car crash, thus sealing his secret identity.

If he is dead, perhaps one day after an estate sale an archivist will be going through some old hard drives and find rough drafts of the white paper or even the stash of his mined coins.

Good idea.
Or...
maybe he live on remote island, with his family, enjoying his life and don't care any more about world affairs.
Maybe, he is preparing something new, revolutionary etc.
Or he is alien from other galaxy...
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October 19, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
#75
There is a possibility that Satoshi Nakamoto is Gavin Andreson's higher self.  Cool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_self
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October 19, 2014, 09:17:37 PM
#74
cheexk this post to know who satoshi might be - http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/
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