Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 [RESOLVED] - page 3.

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Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:21:58 PM

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

Notice that it's easy to pay out on a losing bet. All you need is the losing bet as the transaction input. You send part of it back to the losing player and the rest to a satoshidice change address. So it doesn't matter if the satoshidice wallet is full of inputs that will never confirm; that doesn't impact their ability to pay out losing bets. It does hinder their ability to pay out winners however.

This imbalance means that if you only look at fully confirmed bet+payout pairs, you'll see mostly losing bets showing up. This is reflected in the graph of their profits over time. Notice that for the last day or two their profits have been pretty much straight up. Also notice that they're about 20,000 BTC in the black. That doesn't look like bankruptcy to me.

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There are currently 1374 bets that have been confirmed which haven't had their payouts confirmed yet:

http://pastebin.ca/2262402 (it's too big to include in this post - I never hit the 64000 byte post size limit before)

It looks like SatoshiDice is being swamped by thousands of tiny bets which they're not able to deal with in a timely manner.

The blockage was probably initially caused by a double-spend attempt, which can have a large knock-on effect: when you make a transaction using a double-spent bet as an input, all the outputs are doomed to never confirm. Each of the transactions which you subsequently make using any of those outputs are also doomed to never confirm. And so on. Before you know it you have a huge tree of payouts which eventually just vanish because they depend on a double-spent bet.

Eventually some kind of a clean-up script will run at SatoshiDice and all the missing payouts will be redone.

It kind of sucks that you're having to wait, but you're not alone...

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Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:48:32 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:45:17 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:43:37 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:42:12 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. Wink

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it?

Just a thought

Ah, but I would prefer not to gamble the 0.75BTC that I feel belongs to Stephen in the first place. Let him decide. Cheesy

damn was looking for the *wait wink doesn't exist :/
But there may be others entering before 55 BTC balance arrives

Not so fast there *Here wink goes.* Someone else may claim Cheesy

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Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:45:17 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:43:37 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:42:12 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. Wink

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it?

Just a thought

Ah, but I would prefer not to gamble the 0.75BTC that I feel belongs to Stephen in the first place. Let him decide. Cheesy

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Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:43:37 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:42:12 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. Wink

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it?

Just a thought

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Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:42:12 AM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. Wink

-- My conscience says I don't deserve them and it would be unfair to Stephen if I won them since he gave you the best answers.

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Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 02, 2012, 12:20:26 AM

Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Yuhfhrh

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Quote from: lightlord on December 02, 2012, 12:03:21 AM

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

lightlord

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Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

lightlord

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Its just as silly as your 72 hour offer of 18 bitcoins

Well times up! You had your chance

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on December 01, 2012, 11:44:47 PM

Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:41:37 PM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on December 01, 2012, 11:35:41 PM

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

1.85 bitcoins bet, 12 hours.
Do it?

2.71828183 BTC Bet 8 1/2 hours and we have a deal.
^^ E=2.718, And I like the number E xD
Any other thing you say other then a *I AcCePt*
that is capitalized 28 size, and a red color with bold,
will make my offer immediately invalid. And every
letter has to be exact match as above.

And this just applies to one thread below.
And only one time.

And stamped you have 10 mins
to make this post from 7:50pm-8:00pm Vancouver BC TIME and at (Month: 12) (Dec Day: 1)/ (Year: 2012)
Post below will declare if you made it in the time section.

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Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:41:37 PM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on December 01, 2012, 11:35:41 PM

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

1.85 bitcoins bet, 12 hours.
Do it?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on December 01, 2012, 11:35:41 PM

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

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^^ Updated my post, 2nd closest to bottom.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on December 01, 2012, 11:35:41 PM

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

Heh. Don't do it. lightlord or at least ask for like 100:1 odds.

[Edit: TradeFortress ... at least make it look somehow fair. "If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs."]

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lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

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Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 01, 2012, 11:31:05 PM

Quote from: Stephen Gornick on December 01, 2012, 11:30:24 PM

Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:21:58 PM

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened. Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid. This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed. It shows WIN. You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.

- http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they paid out the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

This is the best answer.

I know I am extremely hype, but if it was 1 bitcoin I wouldn't be reacting at all.
Its just that $720 doesn't grow on trees, and ironically I am suppose to pay
someone 26.5 BTC for a 7970 graphic card.

Now you may ask why I bet in the first place. I had amount of 45 BTC.
And I wanted to play with 4.5 BTC on 79% Odds, but after I clicked submitted,
I realize it was actually in fact 45 BTC.

*I was also confirming a address, and he responded a few hours later,
it was 4am in the morning, and then I decided to do this little bet for fun.
But made a massive insane error.

God damn I am lucky it was a WON. Most careless or biggest **** error I ever made.
I guess worst comes to worse I would go to an Canadian exchange and take out another $350,
and wait for another 5-7 days if I had lost.

Ironically even after the idiocy error, it rewarded me in the end with a $120 UP.

Ever since this happened I been triple checking or even quadruple checking that I don't make a mistake again.

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Quote from: Stephen Gornick on December 01, 2012, 11:30:24 PM

Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:21:58 PM

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened. Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid. This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed. It shows WIN. You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.

- http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they paid out the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

This is the best answer.

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Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:21:58 PM

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened. Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid. This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed. It shows WIN. You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.
- http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, wagers that are double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they sent a payout for the WIN already the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend. And it is then no different from having never made a payout at all.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

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Quote from: lightlord on December 01, 2012, 11:21:58 PM

Quote from: Yuhfhrh on December 01, 2012, 11:14:34 PM

http://blockchain.info/double-spends

Shows a couple of double spends involving satoshidice, but not nearly as much as I was thinking. I'm not sure.

Ouch. I guess satoshidice can't offer the instance payout features. They will have to wait 6 confirmations.
Bitparking lost 150 Bitcoins once do to this.

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

They should cancel all little payments, and give big payments 1st priority.
Alone fulfilling all little payments could cover some big payments.

Having a thousand people lose $8 is better then 20 people losing $400 I think.
I think higher should be given priority, and should be arranged like that.

They have plenty of money to cover these losses, if they are in fact actual losses. I haven't marked off technical problem yet lol

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